I was just asking myself the same... A milf is a woman that gave  birth at some point, for most that means her vagina has been stretched out, unless she had a c-section. what if she was old enough to be a grandmother? Does that still make her a milf? Or a gilf? Somebody please clarify these terms.  Cause I think that I might be a milf! But I am still not sure???sed

Sweet French kisses


Elle

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Guess it depends on how it got stretched out? I'm confused too!

and ''gilfs'' too-smile-I think you coined a new word-its the lady and not the terminology

MILF -> A mother that I would like to Fuck...means you have a baby at some point in your life and you are a mot mom
Best example I can give you is if you are a guy and you see this hot 30 or 40 - something you old walking around the store and she is hot and you look at her and say to yourself...wow I want that...but you know she is Mom because either hr shopping car has a ton juice boxes and lunchables or she has her kid with her. That is the best way to describe a MILF

GILF -> A grandmother I would like to Fuck...means you have had a baby and now your baby has a baby...you are still looking hot and guys would love to be with you.

Two more to add...

Cougar -> An older woman that looks amazing...hot body, great looking face and loves to be with younger guys

Past Her Prime -> This is the older woman that still wears clothes that reveal too much and she need to cover up more.  She thinks she is hot and she is about 20 years older than she acts and dresses.  She wishes she was a cougar or a MILF, but is just past her primes and needs to hang it up

For you Elle...if you have had a baby then you are a One Hot Ass MILF.
If you have never had a child...then you are just Friggin Hot.

I hope this helps.

The term itself is vague and can describe a multitude of descriptions. It really does not turn me on but it gives me a starting point when considering if it is a mom that I truly would like to fuck.
Number one the provider is admitting she is a "mom". But the similarities go out the window and general hunting rules apply for me. Pic, is she hit. Reviews, appearance and performance. The fact she has had a baby doesn't always mean her pussy isn't tight, a provider or civvie woman for whatever thats worth can have a LOT of miles on that sweet thing and be more worn out than than a woman that is childless!
I must say that I have had some very intense, pleasurable sex with preggos!
With MILFs, ymmv really does apply. Eom

The point is ILF! All I have seen and read of you brings this point home to me. Anyone who really thinks a vagina can't bounce back from giving birth, needs an education. Better yet....steer clear and leave it to me! Whatever you are Elle, whatever you call yourself, ILFU.

but that does not make you a milf, some one has  to want to see you to make you a milf.  For many you will be a milf but not for all. My .02

exactly!  thank you for saying this.

it seems like every time the subject of "definition of a MILF" comes up, the issue of vaginal tightness also comes up.  it seems there are plenty of people - mostly younger women, interestingly enough - who just LOOOOOOOVE to imply that if a woman is "of a certain age", it automatically means her vagina is saggy and baggy - LMAO!! oh, please!!  was everyone asleep during biology and anatomy classes?  for pete's sake, the vagina is a muscle, it stretches to accommodate childbirth, large penises, whatever...AND it stretches back.  a loose vagina has more to do with genetics than with age or childbirth history.  exercise (kegels) can tighten it up, like regular exercise can tighten up any part of the body.  sheesh.

so let's all do our kegels and smile, shall we?

(and for the record:  yes, i'm a MILF...yes, i'm proud of it...yes, i gave birth - by Caesarian, if you must know...and yes, i'm tighter than some of the twenty something's around here.)

I prefer an older gentleman so I'm not a cougar. I've never had children so I'm not a MILF. I'm not even close to grandmother so definitely not a GILF.

What if ----- we didn't have labels? Elle would be the same hot blonde we all love to watch and I could be a hot red head who looks really good for her age?

xo LL

I want to coin a new phrase on here.

PILF

Provider I would Like to Fuck.

For those that are in their 20's or in their 40's...you may have had kids...you may have not.  Bottom line is you are a PILF.

It's not as though we stop and ask. If seeing a lady causes that urge in the lower abdomen, and she looks middle age, I think "MILF". if she has partially gray hair, I think "GILF". It makes no difference either way and the GILF isn't inferior to the MILF, nor is the, what shall we call her, Maiden I'd like to fuck, superior to them. It all centers around the "I'd Like To Fuck" part. Since we are all aging at exactly the same rate, I will probably feel the same way about Elle in 10 years as I do now! It doesn't matter if she has kids, grandkids, or no kids.

... and speaking as a "Stiffler's Mom", it should attract  a few people if they know what is best for them

step further.  if 20 years later the now mature provider saw a young hobbyist would that be incest?

I would have to say yes but how the hell would he or she know.