Since another thread went off in a different direction....how about we start a new one?
Incalls.
Pros and cons of:
Working from "home"
Hotels
Dedicated rental apartments or condos.
Everyone seems to have strong opinions about this...so let's hash it out.
Let's see if we can just state our respective cases, make our points, and avoid personal attacks.
Could be fun.
Just sayin'
DD
I have divided both types into two categories:
Hotels and residences.
Pros of hotels:
High traffic (in some) so you can go a bit incognito.
Ability to switch incall without major changes if you suspect anything (pack and leave).
No need to incurr in extra expenses because everything is included (cleaning lady, electricity) etc.
Great in bigger cities where setting up an incall may be quite pricey and where parking is an issue (New York).
Hands down, the best way to avoid a stalker.
Cons:
Front desk can be a bit noisy (specially if you frequent the same hotel).
Noisy guests next door questioning your activity
Stings are usually done in hotels due to more access to set up video and voice equipment by LE.
Provider doesn't have much control of the scene or rates in seasonal areas. (e.g good hotels in Florida at this time can be pricey)
Residences:
Pros:
If you see clients where you live, no need to add any extra cost (no driving involved).
If you are low volume on a high riser you can be incognito, tons of people coming and going.
You can set up the incall the way you like it (extra towels, shower gel, mouthwash,toiletries, water, wine etc.)
Provider controls the scene almost completely.
Predictability of cost (your rent will not change for a year if you have a lease).
Cons:
Noisy neighbours.
If it's a residence or home, different cars parked in your driveway may be very suspicious.
Maybe very expensive if you "rent" an incall just to see clients.
You may a "crazy suitor" that wants to see you more than usual (stalker).
My understanding is that legally, you can get into deeper issues by using your residence for this type of activities.
Hope this helps
Paloma
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each option has it's pros and cons, as Paloma has pointed out, so it really comes down to what each lady feels most comfortable with.
me, i use an apartment rented solely for the purpose. it's important to me to be in a comfortable and home-like setting, with furnishings and accessories to my taste and of my choosing. ambience is key to my romantic, extended dates...so my playhouse is perfect - for me. i don't have a lease, its on a month-to-month arrangement, so if i feel the need to change locations, it's pretty easy to accomplish without a cash hemorrhage.
IMHO the biggest threat in a private location is nosy neighbors, as a complaint to the authorities can have devastating consequences. this is "one" of the reasons why i'm ultra low volume...its hard for anyone to squawk about a only few visitors a week, right?
to each her own on this one, but that's MY two cents.
I like for the first meeting at a hotel. I prefer to arrange the hotel and ask the lady to meet me there. If there is a connection next date I will come to her or she came come to me. I would never have the lady come to my home until I meet her
Posted By: DirtyDaego
Since another thread went off in a different direction....how about we start a new one?
Incalls.
Pros and cons of:
Working from "home"
Hotels
Dedicated rental apartments or condos.
Everyone seems to have strong opinions about this...so let's hash it out.
Let's see if we can just state our respective cases, make our points, and avoid personal attacks.
Could be fun.
Just sayin'
DD
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1. Working from home......You are fucking nuts to do that unless it's someone who is a long term "regular". There are too many nut case potential stalkers and guys who "fall in love with you". It's expensive to move once you have a nutcase that knows where you live.
2. Hotels......The best bet for the ladies safety. It may be expensive but worth the investment in the longer term.
3. Dedicated rental apartments and condos.....Less expensive than Hotels. Still the potential of the problems with point number 1 above. The difference is you know you will be out of there in a month or two. A good choice if the lady has a good built up client base but never see a first time client there.
My advise for the ladies, for what it's worth.....You don't ever see a new client in a location where they know you are going to be after your first meeting. Most of the guys that you meet on here are class guys but......there are still some that can and will be a problem. Keep safe ladies.
See DD, I just stated my case, made my point, and did not attack anyone!!!!
Damn, I'm glad to be back in Orlando!
Wow, I don't agree with you at all 2cups...
I have personally worked out of my own home since I went Independent, which I believe is about 10 times longer than you have been in the hobby, never had an issue of my own, it's called screening. Honestly if you don't come off as a victim you usually do not attract the guys looking for one.
Honestly I always find it amusing when the guys tell the girls how it works for the girls, why not just answer the question from your actual point of knowledge, it the only side you really know for sure, ands the only that should be given any merit. Not a flame an observation.
No matter where you work from the potential for problems exsist, LE, clients etc...I am not sure about the bigger issue with LE if your using your home, I have never heard that once, seems to me arrested is arrested, really if they wanted after popping you at a hotel or incall only rental they could easily get a warrant for your home as well, just saying.
It seems to me it is really about personal preference, I prefer to work in a surround I know, I control..I know when things were cleaned, I know my neighbors and thier schedules, I feel a hotel takes almost all of that away from me, and I also think getting a rental apt just for incall seems silly when I could buy a Silver Surfer #1 first print..
Especially #1
The weakest argument in the world is "I've done this for X amount of time and I've always been fine".
Really? Well that's the same thing EVERYONE who ever got busted said. It's the same thing said by people who never got carjacked before, robbed before, stalked before, etc.
There's someone who got in their car this morning thinking "I've been driving for 30 years and everything has been fine"....and they won't be coming home tonight.
Repeating stupid behavior for no other reason than it hasn't bitten you in the ass *yet*...is the height of stupidity.
Complacency kills. Maybe it's Darwinism. It weeds out the weak and dumb.
Just sayin'
DD
Posted By: DirtyDaego
Especially #1
Repeating stupid behavior for no other reason than it hasn't bitten you in the ass *yet*...is the height of stupidity.
Maybe so but it probably explains 95 percent of human behavior.
First your assumming my behavior was stupid to begin with you actually have no way of knowing how I do anything let alone if I do it in an ill informed manner. So please do not speak about how I do things when you really have no clue what your on about. I screen well and have a personality that does not come off as one that is easy to fool. I was speaking of mu own experience on the matter, and frankly I will never take advice from a person on your side of the hobby, and i tire of your side telling my side how it really works, how do you know? I have been in this biz for over 10 years, your telling me that I don't know what I am talking about when talking about what has worked for me, thats ridiculous.
I am thinking that the busts that have lead to this topic have more to do with other matters than just this biz so really the entire debate of home or elsewhere is meaningless in the big scheme of things.
It comes down to personal choice, and there is no sense in argueing with anothers, nor calling those who do not agree stupid because of it. I have never understood why some men feel the need to attack a view of a person who works this side of it so more than likely knows the side a lil better. Must be a power issue that really has nothing to with my choice but thier view on women..please spare me that I have zero sympathy for you mother, exes, etc issues.
How I do things has always worked FOR ME and I am not changing becauae a few MEN who do not do things day in and day out are trying to show they know more than the person who actually has to do these things to keep her ass covered. This isn't a car jacking an really the comparision is pretty stupid, things happen and some nothing you do will stop em from happening, it has ZERO to do with my business and how I protect myself.
I know I rambled I am out of coffee and my brain is rather slow to form a complete thought at the moment. I hopw you get the skinny of it, I am trying to refrain from speaking on your IQ as you have mine.
I have used my "home" as my incall. I have never had an issue. Perhaps a little of it is luck, however, I like to think it's more because of my screening.
That said, after a few recent incidents of ladies being arrested in their own homes, I am pretty freaked out about it. It seems that 99.9% of the arrests are on the streets, hotels and decoy houses.
I guess this is one way to get me out of Spring Hill and into Tampa!
Hugs, Tarah xoxo
I am equally uneasy at a first meeting whether at the lady's home or apt/condo or hotel. Actually being screen thoroughly, is not a problem, and helps add to the legitimacy of the professional.
After the first meeting, it doesn't matter at all. I know I am trustworthy, and I go in believing in the person I am meeting. It then becomes a matter of her choice, and comfort level. The lady I see the most, we started out at her home for years, but now I just get a room and send her the info, and we meet.
If I could give any advice on the topic, it would be to make the first meeting smooth out as best you can, and all subsequent meetings will be fine. Sometimes it is difficult to even get an idea which section of a city you will be expected to meet in, and with security being paramount, that's understandable. Hopefully all this helps, as the pros and cons of where have been stated, but sometimes why is also important. We should come up with a better protocol than the "typical two call system". (another plug for meet & greets).
Coming up with a better protocol. Unfortunately, what worked years ago just does not cut it these days.
I am a FIRM about screening...if a gent cannot provide the necessary information requested and/or gives me a hard time for asking for necessary information...I pass at spending time with them. NOTHING is worth going on a whim because you may need to come up with $$$ fast.
As far as DD's question...I did the condo, apt and townhome incall setting in the past years...it was enjoyable decorating to my liking and I was able to come and go at any hour of the day. However, I do prefer hotels today as there is no overhead to speak of. Anyone that meets at their home is just not very smart in my opinion...you are just asking for trouble.
Most importantly, if I could offer any advice it would be...LADIES...SCREEN...SCREEN...SCREEN!
Great thread DD! 
Sweet Kisses,
Sindie
As a hobbyist, I am more comfortable with outcalls to a hotel that I get. I have done incalls at hotels, condos and homes. Besides Leo being able to set up stings for incalls easier, it is also easier to set up a hobbyist for ripoffs at incalls. Screening, both by the provider and hobbyist can help protect both and makes me a little more comfortable when meeting someone new. My motto, and I hope everyone picks it up, Safe and Secure.
are definately advantages/disadvantages to each as pointed out above by several posters. Also very true that things are definately different now than when I started over 10 years ago.
The advice given to SCREEN SCREEN SCREEN is to vital to a lady's safety and peace of mind. My advice is not to compromise with what makes you (the lady) feel safe and secure. Likewise, for the guys, do your homework and only see reputable ladies; safety should be a concern for guys as well. Not sure I want to see a provider if I can not be certain that I will be safe while visiting.
I understand the economics of a lady sometimes having to use their residence for incall but be extra careful with who you see in this situation. No one wants to be stalked or have their place broken into because of a security breech. Similarly, even if I were single, I wouldn't be inviting a provider to my residence. I prefer to keep my personal life and my hobby life mutually exclusive.
Lot's of valid statements on a great topic.
I for one prefer incall as it is not possible for me to have a friend over.
As to where the incall is.... I will not say that it does not matter as safety for both myself and the lady is VERY important!
The type of location truly is not a big deal for me.. I have visited friends at incall Apartments, 4 Star Hotels down to budget hotels, as well as their homes.
I believe the real key to what is the right place to meet is based on the safety and comfort of BOTH people who are involved. I have read the statement to screen.. screen... screen... and honestly that works from both sides We must ALL feel safe and comfortable to enjoy our special times together and that is the REAL KEY.
Like many of you here I have been a part of this lifestyle for many years, in my case more years than I want to admit to LOL Although it is easy enough to go look at the first review I wrote here and that was after several years using other sites and small private boards.
What I am trying to say is we all want to be Safe and not have to worry about the crazy people out there or being trapped in some crap society has placed in the way.
Stay safe my friends and enjoy life. I for one do need to keep my friends safe as well as myself.
