--- I certainly can't be sure but it was such a strange situation that I spoke to other girls about it. A guy with a British accent had been calling me for months trying to get me to meet him. He always had these weird scenarios like --- my wife is with me on this trip but will you still meet me at my hotel if I get another room kind of thing. I turned him down based on principal alone on that one. Other times he said he wanted to meet me at really late hours. I made a tentative plan for a 10PM meeting to an reasonably nice Westshore hotel once and he didn't call until 11. In my mind I'm thinking if you just traveled from the UK to Tampa there's no way anyone could keep the kind of hours he was suggesting so I turned that one down too. Eventually, after a few more calls I told him I'd meet him BUT since he had no references, solid verification information and because he was so suspicious sounding I wanted to meet him in public at a bar for a drink. I told him to bring his passport with him and an airline ticket from his travels that day (hint, a great screening tool for traveling gentleman who call us rather than email us for whatever reason --- but meet them in public first even if you have to put in an extra 30 minutes of your time gratis!!). When I met him for the drink my instincts told me something was wrong right off the bat based on questions he was asking right away after sitting down. He was focused on industry related questions. I asked him for his passport and he actually had the nerve to hand me a passport with an expiration date over 10 years ago and no airline ticket. As he was trying to brush off the fake passport he told me is that he borrowed a car to make our meeting. I found it really bizarre, unbelievable and suspicious why he wouldn't have a rental car if he's driving all over the place for his Tampa business so when the drink was done and it was time to leave I offered to walk to his car with him so he could take me around to mine (I knew the entire time I wasn't going anywhere but I wanted to see if my instincts were on point). I walked up to a 1980's beat up, faded, red toyota tercel. Blaring sirens went off in my head!! There's no way a guy is traveling from the UK to Tampa, FL four to six times a year to do business first of all and second, if that were even remotely true he'd have a nice rental car of some sort. Third - if he's driving a piece of junk he's obviously faking something and clearly shouldn't be spending his money on meeting girls. I already mentioned the expired passport. The last thing that tipped me off is that when I tried to look at his windshield and into his car he stood in front of me to block my view. Creepy and threatening because he wasn't a person who was being up-front with me. I didn't really know how to get rid of him so I walked in an opposite direction from my car for him to follow me to. I faked a phone call and said I had a friend who just got beaten up and that I had to go take care of her. He asked me one question before letting me go --- is she in this business too? It was almost like it excited him because he asked very eagerly.
The most important thing to point out is that I almost let my guard down because of this man's accent. It was a great reminder that someone can be from another state or country but may have also been living in our backyard for the last 10 years.
Maybe I'm paranoid but maybe I'm right. Either way he was creepy and if this whole LE thing is true I think we should try to share as much as we can with each other right now.
Stay safe everyone -
xo LL
Right now....everyone just be extra careful.
There's info, stories, whatever.....about established indy women getting busted.
The douchenozzle nazis aren't stupid. They read the boards (which are public, don't forget) and know that we figure they target the cheap BP ads. Well no more.
They are going after...and nailing....indies.
They have fake DC and P411 profiles. They aren't doing this stupid.
Women are getting nailed (not in the good way) and who knows what they are saying to protect themselves.
Be smart. Remember that this is illegal....and never drop your guard. Ever.
Don't PM me asking for anything....because I'm not saying anything more than I've said here.
Indies are getting busted. Be smart.
That is all.
Just sayin'
DD
I hear these rumors every now and then about providers being turned and giving up clients. Never seems to ever amount to anything. Anyone else ever hear of his being confirmed?
And what's with the cryptic "Don't PM me" ? Is the CIA after you?
Are you saying it never happens......ever? Is this based on your extensive experience?
The point of my post was simple.
Things have happened.
People need to be reminded to be extra careful and remember that just because we take things for granted....it's still illegal and what we say here is open to the public.
As far as my request....there's nothing "cryptic" about it. Most people with a brain realize that.
It simply means that I'd prefer not to have dozens of PMs with people asking for details that are none of their business, and could embarrass others.
I simply became aware of things...and have no intention of betraying the trust of those who made me aware.
Besides....the CIA gave up on coming after me a long time ago. They don't have enough game. 
Just sayin'
DD
And by reading Your posts you are textbook narcissist
just sayin
The ladies fall into the background and then resurface as someone new or they just never fell out of your good graces. I wasn't crying wolf for no reason on the provider board. Sorry guys your not open to that info but the ladies know.
I don't know of any lady who would get on this board and say " I have been busted and they took my computer and phone with all your info for them to weed through.
For those who didn't know about the Brothel closed down by LE and Feds less than a year ago all their info for 5 years was taken. The ladies in question didn't do their own screening the owner did. They all had great reviews here and had given many whitelists. All us ladies at one time or another gave or asked for references from these ladies via e-mail but the Brothel owner did all that and saved the info for future dates. 3 politicians stepped down and they have loads of other names who belonged to P411, DC and TER members. Yup, 5 years of computer files and hot videos of the gentlemen and ladies in action. They took the list of customers and ladies into evidence. I'm not sure if after the case that becomes public info from the Florida sunshine law.
Remember being part of a select group makes you more vulnerable of being dragged in. Organized is considered RECO material which is a bigger fish to fry.
Hope everyone is enjoying this beautiful Florida weather. AS we move closer to the summer things will get very much hotter. It's just the way things go here
Kisses Haley
Thanks for the "heads-up" and for re-affirming my instincts. I've had such a creepy feeling lately, so much so that I have been declining calls left and right. If I don't know you, know who you are, know someone that you have seen, or recognize the handle,... I'm not booking an appt. This time of year should be great; not so the case here ... been too paranoid! Cripes, I'm ready to get a 9-5!! Hey - "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" ..... Sorry to hear about the girls - Glad to know that my intuition is right on! .... Torre
There's info, stories, whatever.....about established indy women getting busted.
The douchenozzle nazis aren't stupid. They read the boards (which are public, don't forget) and know that we figure they target the cheap BP ads. Well no more.
They are going after...and nailing....indies.
They have fake DC and P411 profiles. They aren't doing this stupid.
Women are getting nailed (not in the good way) and who knows what they are saying to protect themselves.
Be smart. Remember that this is illegal....and never drop your guard. Ever.
Don't PM me asking for anything....because I'm not saying anything more than I've said here.
Indies are getting busted. Be smart.
That is all.
Just sayin'
DD
I spoke to the lady involved. She was busted at her incall because she drooped down her guarded and the cop said all the right things he mentioned P411 and date check but she never check his references. She knows how stupid she was
So ladies please screen well and be safe
There's info, stories, whatever.....about established indy women getting busted.
The douchenozzle nazis aren't stupid. They read the boards (which are public, don't forget) and know that we figure they target the cheap BP ads. Well no more.
They are going after...and nailing....indies.
They have fake DC and P411 profiles. They aren't doing this stupid.
Women are getting nailed (not in the good way) and who knows what they are saying to protect themselves.
Be smart. Remember that this is illegal....and never drop your guard. Ever.
Don't PM me asking for anything....because I'm not saying anything more than I've said here.
Indies are getting busted. Be smart.
That is all.
Just sayin'
DD
WOW!! I have never been arrested but I am very glad that I read this posting. I'm always cautious regarding screening. I can't believe that LE is mentioning P411, don't ladies screen and check the P411 IDs?
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--- I certainly can't be sure but it was such a strange situation that I spoke to other girls about it. A guy with a British accent had been calling me for months trying to get me to meet him. He always had these weird scenarios like --- my wife is with me on this trip but will you still meet me at my hotel if I get another room kind of thing. I turned him down based on principal alone on that one. Other times he said he wanted to meet me at really late hours. I made a tentative plan for a 10PM meeting to an reasonably nice Westshore hotel once and he didn't call until 11. In my mind I'm thinking if you just traveled from the UK to Tampa there's no way anyone could keep the kind of hours he was suggesting so I turned that one down too. Eventually, after a few more calls I told him I'd meet him BUT since he had no references, solid verification information and because he was so suspicious sounding I wanted to meet him in public at a bar for a drink. I told him to bring his passport with him and an airline ticket from his travels that day (hint, a great screening tool for traveling gentleman who call us rather than email us for whatever reason --- but meet them in public first even if you have to put in an extra 30 minutes of your time gratis!!). When I met him for the drink my instincts told me something was wrong right off the bat based on questions he was asking right away after sitting down. He was focused on industry related questions. I asked him for his passport and he actually had the nerve to hand me a passport with an expiration date over 10 years ago and no airline ticket. As he was trying to brush off the fake passport he told me is that he borrowed a car to make our meeting. I found it really bizarre, unbelievable and suspicious why he wouldn't have a rental car if he's driving all over the place for his Tampa business so when the drink was done and it was time to leave I offered to walk to his car with him so he could take me around to mine (I knew the entire time I wasn't going anywhere but I wanted to see if my instincts were on point). I walked up to a 1980's beat up, faded, red toyota tercel. Blaring sirens went off in my head!! There's no way a guy is traveling from the UK to Tampa, FL four to six times a year to do business first of all and second, if that were even remotely true he'd have a nice rental car of some sort. Third - if he's driving a piece of junk he's obviously faking something and clearly shouldn't be spending his money on meeting girls. I already mentioned the expired passport. The last thing that tipped me off is that when I tried to look at his windshield and into his car he stood in front of me to block my view. Creepy and threatening because he wasn't a person who was being up-front with me. I didn't really know how to get rid of him so I walked in an opposite direction from my car for him to follow me to. I faked a phone call and said I had a friend who just got beaten up and that I had to go take care of her. He asked me one question before letting me go --- is she in this business too? It was almost like it excited him because he asked very eagerly.
The most important thing to point out is that I almost let my guard down because of this man's accent. It was a great reminder that someone can be from another state or country but may have also been living in our backyard for the last 10 years.
Maybe I'm paranoid but maybe I'm right. Either way he was creepy and if this whole LE thing is true I think we should try to share as much as we can with each other right now.
Stay safe everyone -
xo LL
Someone inquired about a double with myself and another lady. He had no work information etc but said he had reviews on TER. Pretty much every single one was on a back page girl. The girls might actually have pictures on Backpage but they're usually in a bathing suit (not lingerie) or skimpy clothing which means these girls could possibly have fake profiles on TER. Connect the dots and you've got infiltration on two levels.
Is there any way TER would start requiring/providing verification on all providers with profiles? Kind of like Eros has been doing forever and like P411 has started to offer. If we can weed some of the fakes out perhaps we can stabilize our community.
xo LL