In my line of work I meet prostitutes every day and they or their pimps pay me instead of the other way around. All of my friends know I hobby, heck even my Mom has backed up my BS alibi when I was hobbying. She knew exactly what I was doing. If anybody is going to hold it against me then I guess it's their loss not mine.
As for your situation I am very sorry that your aquaintance turned out to be such a person of low character. People like this guy can be very damaging and hurtful. While totally cutting off contact with him can trigger him to go on the offensive and have him start to blather to everybody and their mother about you do. I suggest that you talk to him one last time. Explain to him that there is something in life called PRUDENCE. Tell him that the people who you care about and care about you know exactly what you do and it makes no difference to them. I am pretty sure that talking to him on an adult level will be like trying to teach quantum physics to a 1st grader with downs syndrome. However, you did your part and shwed that his immature meddling in your affairs was not going to bother you anymore or affect anyone who knows and cares about you.
If this continues I suggest that you take your site down temporarily (to avoid further exposure) and take legal steps to eradicate him from your life. Judges are not stupid and they know exactly what his intentions are. There are protective orders and court orders that were created for situations such as this. Just never admit to any wrong doing and common sense should prevail.
While in this business I've always live by a self-imposed set of guidelines - always trust your gut, never get undressed for free, treat other girls in the business as a sister -- and ---- one of the most important --- NEVER let the wives or children get hurt. What that means to me is no matter how badly someone might behave or burn me (if they've stalked me, violated my privacy, given counterfeit cash or dollar size yellow pages stuffed in an envelope, booked false appointments, stood me up at the last second when I'm already dressed and where I'm supposed to be so on and so forth) I've always found a way to either deal with it with the individual or to let it go without taking their deceit out on innocent people. I've heard too many stories about providers going outside of the boundaries and targeting families or notifying work places when they're angry at a client about something. That's just never been my style.
A few months ago I locked my galleries down after being recognized by a few people in my social circle - all men . I mention that obvious fact because clearly whoever it was that saw my pics on TER/Eros had to have been shopping around those sites themselves so calling me out in front of civilians makes them a hypocrite. One person (that I'll be talking about a lot later in my posts) made comments like, "this girl gets a lot of ass", "who are you hooking tonight" and "I'm looking for a downtown call girl" every time he sees me. The comments are awful but this post isn't about what this person said. This post is about the mutual respect for each person's privacy if they're going to participate in this arena.
I never thought in a million years that the person who made the awful comments would go as far as he's gone. I conduct light screening for access to my galleries. This person had the nerve to email me for a password to my galleries without giving me one clue about who he was. He entered and perused the galleries and then proceeded to engage me in a very long string of emails --- never once telling me that we actually know each other in a different way. When someone sends a ton of email without booking I send a red flag up and I look at the person a little closer. He was emailing me from a work address with his real name attached to it I started to recognize the name. I went to Facebook to confirm my suspicions and it was who I thought it was. I was beyond livid!! I had *just* locked my galleries down and he was one of the first in line to ask for access. I couldn't believe that someone would have that much nerve/obsession/malintent. I contacted him and asked him why? When I asked him if he's written a review or ever called a girl before the answer was no and one time. He knows nothing about the world of hobbling except what he's learned by stalking me. He didn't have reasonable answers to ANY of my questions.
Before I go on I wanted to through a note about who "he" is. He's a belligerent drunk, he can't hold a conversation without being verbally abusive and probably doesn't get laid very often because of his sloppy angry-drunk behavior. He's a good looking guy but he's really pissed off at the world and has no real friends or life that I can see. I always only see him at a bar getting hammered. I've given him a ride home before because he was so trashed. ---Yep - he's that close to me in my civilian world and --- all of those factors together make up one lethal combination for me. People like this often take their emptiness and anger out on others and I'm a perfect target. It's soooo easy to point the finger at the hooker and actually feel like someone when people side with his drunken ass.
With that said, I decided that my only choice was to take the high road. I lectured him about poking into my business, told him not to do it again and was then nice enough to tell him that if he's going to continue playing around in this world that he better started corresponding through a private email address rather than his work addy. I also asked him to write a review on the one girl he claims he's seen. His story is that he never went looking for me. He said he just bumped into me when shopping around. I felt like if he wrote the review that would put some truth behind what I was correct in assuming were lies. He never wrote the review and the girl he says he saw is nowhere to be found. I only know this because he contacted me again over the summer to ask for a new password to my galleries. Can you believe the gall?
OK… I know the post is getting long but here's where it starts to get juicy again. Recently, the man I've been dating for over three years told me he was approached by this individual. He asked my guy if he knew I had pictures on the internet, blah, blah, blah. My guy knows (thank god!!) and brushed his question of with an "I don't know". I was floored!!! Guess he didn't take me seriously when I told him to stay out my business!! I know this person well enough to have his number on my phone. I called to ask him why he would do such a thing. Again, he played innocent and handed me one lie after the other. -- At this point he can say anything he likes but the bottom line for me is - This person PURPOSELY tried to hurt me by telling my boyfriend about my presence on the internet. I can deal with the stalking, the lying and the major violation of my privacy but when someone makes a point of trying to expose and upset the balance of my life I have a REAL PROBLEM with that. I might even be able deal with one of his exposures in my social circle but as you can see he's spreading my secret when I thought the whole thing had been put to bed. If he were a part of the hobby like he claims he is he would know that there's a mutual respect between hobbyists and providers regarding privacy and he's breaking every rule. Soooo - he's either clueless and found his way here by stalking me OR he's a regular hobbyist with no regard for the rules. Either one is unacceptable.
I contacted him again (I waited until I was in a calm and peaceful mood) and asked him why he would approach my lover and tell him such things? All he gave me were empty answers and played innocent the entire time. I didn't scream, yell or threaten him. I let him tell his lies and closed the conversation. The situation has become pathological and I'm trying to figure out what I should do? --- Take the high road again (and let him possibly continue to spread my secret amongst my social circle)? Ask TER to look him up in their database and ban him? Bring his work email address up to him again and give him another warning?
What would you do if someone went to your significant other, your best friend or a family member and told them about your involvement in the hobby? How would you handle the situation?
Much like a cop or firefighter there are risks and dangers in your line of work.
Being identified or exposed by someone you know is bound to happen in this business. There will always be some assholes looking to do harm so your situation is not unique. That is the risk you chose so it's difficult to feel bad for you.
As a hobbyist, I can always deny, deny, deny. But as a provider, you have too much internet presence (pics, reviews, ads, website, etc) that will always leave evidence. You can shut down all your media outlet and go TOTALLY UTR, or get out of this business.
BTW, why did you give him access to your pics in the first place? You conduct light screening for access to your galleries, but you say he didn't even give one clue about who he was. I guess your screening was extremely light. Lesson learned I hope.
I understand your point about light screening but they're only asking for access to my galleries - not to see me. I ask for a board alias, where they found me or some bit of personal information before giving access. I clearly had no idea who he was when he used a TER alias in the request form. I'm lucky he was foolish enough to use his professional email with his full name attached to it or I might never have discovered who he was. --- With regard to my screening policies I am diligent. I refused to see someone last week when I felt I didn't have enough information to verify him as a newbie. I also declined an invitation this weekend because it was last minute and because they could only provide me with one reference.
Your comment about getting out of the business is somewhat unrealistic as this has been my world for more years than I'd like to mention. I guess I never dealt with it before because I always lived in a big city and never had to worry about my personal life intersecting with my professional life.
When you posted you didn't answer the question. What would you do? How would you handle it? I'm guessing this has never come up for you before (i hope!!)?
xo LL
xo LL
I said as a hobbyist, I would just deny my involvement if this situation ever arose. I don't write reviews and I do not leave an electronic trail. There isn't anything that can be traced to me. I assume a lot of careful hobbyists are this way. Don't forget that TER and other online sites are only a fraction of the people who participate in this activity.
I guess as a provider it is more difficult for you to remain totally anonymous, not to mention it would be bad business sense. Like they say, live by the sword, die by the sword.
I did peak at your website. You are such a cutie!!! I hope everything works out for you.
You are dealing with someone that believes he needs to have power over you in order to make himself feel better. Harassment and bullying are something that I am having to deal with on a much more frequent basis and have as recently as yesterday had to help a young lady deal with an attack from an ex whom also is a supervisor. I will have to deal with him directly this week.
These types of men have no self esteem and are trying to find pleasure through your pain. They likely have their own terrible back story and will often die lonely. You can not let him get the better of you. But you also have to be prepared with something to say for your friends in your circle. Maybe something to the effect of your setting up some sexy pictures for your current or past lover and those pictures were not properly secured online and have been stolen. Have your guy help back up the story. Be prepared to be embarrassed about your pictures getting out and showing up all over the place. 90% of your friends will accept what you tell them as long as you are prepared with what to say. If this guy is as terrible as you paint him, most will believe you over him anyway. And shut down the picture gallery for good, if only to ensure you can still enjoy the company of others outside of your profession.
Trying to get him banned or doing anything other than taking the high road will likely only add fuel to his fire and he may just try harder to get at you. Remind him that his behavior is unacceptable only when in person if he brings it up and leave it at that. Hopefully he will eventually get bored if he is not being taken seriously.
I think you're right about having a story ready for anyone who asks and I like the "stolen photos" story a lot.
When someone else tried to throw me off balance on another occasion I just stood there without saying a word or batting an eyelash. He eventually stopped the rude remarks so not reacting seems to be effective.
You suggested I delete my galleries all together. You mean the private ones right? When I only offer one page of photos I wonder if it's enough to gain people's interest?
xo LL
By another provider. For no good reason, but just to cause trouble. Her unsuccessful attempt to out me to my family failed drastically. One thing she is unable to understand is that my family will stand behind me no matter what I do for a living. Another thing she really missed out on is that her malicious and senseless act of childish behavior will come back to haunt her one day.
Yes, she does post on this board and is despised by many here for her nasty comments and antics. It just goes to show you what an ugly person she is inside and out!
Karma will strike a full circle on her like a boomerang, just when she least expects it. Tough! I have ZERO tolerance for this type of behavior from anyone.
I am sorry that this happened to you. I truly am
He is a failure in his own personal life and therefore cannot see past that. People like him will project their lack of self esteem through acts of hatred towards others.
Unfortunately, he picked you as his target. I personally would stop all contact with this person. Remember, you can never reason with a fool. Its useless to waste any positive energy on this type of person. He did not succeed in trying to hurt you in your personal life. Move on and hold your head to the sky.
Sincerely,
VeroniqueGFE
Yes, she does post on this board and is despised by many here for her nasty comments and antics. It just goes to show you what an ugly person she is inside and out!
Karma will strike a full circle on her like a boomerang, just when she least expects it. Tough! I have ZERO tolerance for this type of behavior from anyone.
I am sorry that this happened to you. I truly am
Unfortunately, he picked you as his target. I personally would stop all contact with this person. Remember, you can never reason with a fool. Its useless to waste any positive energy on this type of person. He did not succeed in trying to hurt you in your personal life. Move on and hold your head to the sky.
Sincerely,
VeroniqueGFE
I have a Domme girlfriend who was seeing a gentleman for a while. When she decided he was trying to push the relationship further than she cared to take it, he would not go away. This is not a hobbyist in the true sense of the word, but he has targeted a string of Pro Dommes. He uses electronic harrassment, libelous statements posted online, threats, illegally obtained personal information , and has even tried using her co-workers and the justice system to cause her grief. The result....at the moment she has a permanent restraining order on him. His harrassment at work got so bad that she took early retirement to get away from him, but it has not stopped. She has considered filing a civil suit against him, but that takes money she cannot afford to spend. Two years have gone by and he still keeps popping into the picture with some new twist...and there are others with the same problem. Having posted warnings on sites like Dangerzone, seems to have done little, as he is still fixated on ruining her life. He won't move on to someone else. People like this need to be stopped at the first sign of problems, even if it means using the legal system to silence them. Any new ideas for her would be helpful. She contemplating selling her house and moving elsewhere and starting over just to try to escape his clutches.
What does one do when they've taken steps to terminate the harassment? It doesn't seem right that someone would have to sell their home, move and start ALL over again. If she is considering that route she might consider the civil suit. The cost will probably be about the same.
If she's really in dire straits maybe she could do and ISO of on TER for someone who would be willing to provide legal help for a trade on her services? I've done that before when my landlord was trying to make illegal rent increases. There are a lot of people out there who would be willing to help I'm sure -- even if she has to solicit on a bigger board - like NYC, DC, etc.
Best of luck and stay safe ladies!!
xo LL
In my line of work I meet prostitutes every day and they or their pimps pay me instead of the other way around. All of my friends know I hobby, heck even my Mom has backed up my BS alibi when I was hobbying. She knew exactly what I was doing. If anybody is going to hold it against me then I guess it's their loss not mine.
As for your situation I am very sorry that your aquaintance turned out to be such a person of low character. People like this guy can be very damaging and hurtful. While totally cutting off contact with him can trigger him to go on the offensive and have him start to blather to everybody and their mother about you do. I suggest that you talk to him one last time. Explain to him that there is something in life called PRUDENCE. Tell him that the people who you care about and care about you know exactly what you do and it makes no difference to them. I am pretty sure that talking to him on an adult level will be like trying to teach quantum physics to a 1st grader with downs syndrome. However, you did your part and shwed that his immature meddling in your affairs was not going to bother you anymore or affect anyone who knows and cares about you.
If this continues I suggest that you take your site down temporarily (to avoid further exposure) and take legal steps to eradicate him from your life. Judges are not stupid and they know exactly what his intentions are. There are protective orders and court orders that were created for situations such as this. Just never admit to any wrong doing and common sense should prevail.
The suggestions shared both on the board and via PM & email have been very helpful already. I've made changes to my website, removed the private galleries and videos (boo!!) and have cropped my website pics even more to avoid recognition.
I think you're right about contacting him one last time as he did send a text to my private phone yesterday after reading my post. Yes - he's following me that closely! I couldn't tell if his text was a statement or a threat. I've not responded but I know he'll be reading this post too and hopefully - after seeing and reading how a majority of the board feels about his violation he'll "get it", go away and hopefully keep his trap shut the next time he sees me, thinks about me.
The last recourse I have is that I saved the email archive he initially sent to me where he pretends like he's going to be a real client. I think that rather than even think about alerting his work place I can just remind him that if continues to try to out me to my friends and social circle that I can do the same thing by sharing his email correspondence with the very people he's talking to. If he pushes me out of the closet he's coming with me.
My last general comment about him and anyone who behaves as badly as he has is to please never underestimate how strong, intelligent and able a provider is. The women that work in this world are often here because we *are* so smart and we didn't like working under bosses who were sometimes less intelligent than we are. Also, please never underestimate how cared for we girls are by our community and that there are people who are willing to act on our behalf to protect us and keep us safe. Last - girls who have good reputations on this board earn them not just for performance but for caliber of character too - meaning, we do live by a high moral code and lying about what I do to the person I love is not in my make up. Trying to go behind me and destroy my relationship was a pathetic attempt at gaining power over me. You have not and will not win.
xo LL