The one thing I disagree with the most about the reviewing system is giving free VIP to people who post reviews. This encourages people to write reviews of people who they have never seen just so they can get VIP access without paying. I also disagree with allowing a first time poster of a review to review a new lady with no reviews.
The rating system could be improved but I think the guys here that know what they are doing look at more then just the numbers. When I read a review, I also look to see who else the reviewer has reviewed and see if they seem to fall in line. One mans 10 could be another mans 5. I'm a pretty hard grader. I don't pass out 9's and 10's easily and I don't think that anyone will ever come back to me and say "how could you rate her a 9".
I also don't write reviews on every lady I see. I tend to write reviews for the ladies who, in my opinion, really "knocked my socks off". If you read my review history, I also sometime write a review for really poor performance.
And ladies, if I have seen you and did not write a review of you, please don't take it that I didn't enjoy our time together. Not true. Sometimes I get a little lazy and don't get around to posting a review. Ladies, please remember too that it does take some time on our part to post a review. I would say that the average time it takes me to write a review and fill in all the information we must do when submitting a review takes about a hour on the average.
I guess the bottom line here is not to get hung up on numbers. The smart gents here don't just look at the numbers. We do our research, read the reviews, read the reviewers other reviews, and in a lot of cases trade PM's to other hobbyiest.
You have a good reputation in my book Miss Wild and if you ever made it up to the Orlando area, I would love to meet you.
The rating system, I believe it is ridiculous.
I also believe that it is FUEL for fake reviews
& "dirty pool players" to keep a provider lower on the scale than she deserves.
I have 3 FAKE reviews on my profile.
Granted, they are NOT negative reviews BUT...
THEY ARE FAKE none the less.
I have an unorthodox approach to this business
& I am WELL AWARE of how I rub against those who feel threatened by me & THEIR FANS.
My Photos are recent (unless I post otherwise),
My Photos are NEVER retouched or airbrushed in ANY way.
My Photos are ALL TAKEN BY MY VISITORS.
Without TRYING to sound too conceited, I KNOW I look great.
My home/incall is GORGEOUS.
Even my "wealthy" visitors have almost all commented on how lovely a place it is
& that it is NICER than some other providers places they have visited.
Cubilibre wrote a review of me with #'s LESS than the 10s I deserved.
HE CALLED ME to tell me that he was UNABLE to get the review up WITH the 10s I deserved.
TOGETHER, we reported the review & finally got it fixed.
As I said in a different thread a few months back...
I am not going to let this "rating" system dampen my spirits
OR keep me from posting TRUE representations of myself in EVERY WAY.
I CANNOT STAND SNEAKY PEOPLE &/OR SNEAKY BEHAVIOR.
We are NOT able to reply HERE IN OUR REVIEWS
& I am curious... what do YOU think of THE RATING SYSTEM here?
Fake reviews, even good ones are extremely dangerous. Bad intended folks looking to establish an illegitimate review history often post them. The reviews are good, so the ladies usually don't say anything. This gives unscrupulous agency owners, providers with "nom de plumes" and LE a way to establish a presence and credibility without being a credible hobbyist. I don't think I need to spell out what these three groups would do with a fake presence on the boards, or who they could hurt. I know of one agency owner who has been caught doing this (he is still active on this board) and I know a provider who admitted to doing it.
Ladies, if you know you didn't see a guy, even if the review was good, PLEASE tell TER. They need to know for the safety of all.
Just sayin'
Y'know something? I never even thought the LE aspect of it.
Good point.
I reiterate, I CAN'T stand SNEAKY people &/or behavior...
for ANY reason.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Although nice to have more reviews I prefer the sincere opinion of whom I actually met. I read this 2 reviews and I KNOW that was not me. I can recognize the situation even if I don't know the haldle of my client.
I reported that but TER did not take it off. I rather lose a review than have the risk of having somebody getting fre VIP or worst posing as a client when he is not.
I think that if a lady does not recognize the review, should sent a note to teh reviewer and if she cna not identify him them report and TER should take the review down and keep a look on the reviewer behavoir for a while. Is for teh benefit of the ladies and the hobbiest.
I may disagree with my review or my score but if that is the sincere opinion of the hobbiest it is what it is but I don't want to accept a fake one that compromises how other people make desicions.
It happened also that TER once downgrade the score that my reviewer gave me and I think they don't have the right to do that, is the opinion of the reviwer, TER should just approve it.
Shyla
Although nice to have more reviews I prefer the sincere opinion of whom I actually met. I read this 2 reviews and I KNOW that was not me. I can recognize the situation even if I don't know the haldle of my client.
I reported that but TER did not take it off. I rather lose a review than have the risk of having somebody getting fre VIP or worst posing as a client when he is not.
I think that if a lady does not recognize the review, should sent a note to teh reviewer and if she cna not identify him them report and TER should take the review down and keep a look on the reviewer behavoir for a while. Is for teh benefit of the ladies and the hobbiest.
I may disagree with my review or my score but if that is the sincere opinion of the hobbiest it is what it is but I don't want to accept a fake one that compromises how other people make desicions.
It happened also that TER once downgrade the score that my reviewer gave me and I think they don't have the right to do that, is the opinion of the reviwer, TER should just approve it.
Shyla
MORE than once or even twice.
SoFlGuy44....remember when that happened to me? Nothing was done about it! Most of my private friends do not post unless they ask me if it is ok...since my memory is fantastic and I am friends with almost everyone I have seen, but I did have an agency owner, because I chose not to use an agency decided to have reviews written of me that were not true. Everyone knows I'm one of the most well reviewed and of course well liked//LOL Everyone just keep reporting to TER till its taken care of..![]()
I tried to help, but it's very hard to prove. I think TER needs to pay more attention to this and maybe have a protocol in place for verification, but I know their plates are full.
And yes, you are hot as hell and well liked.
And my name is "Soflaguy44". We have been intimate, you should know better. I am deeply wounded.
The one thing I disagree with the most about the reviewing system is giving free VIP to people who post reviews. This encourages people to write reviews of people who they have never seen just so they can get VIP access without paying. I also disagree with allowing a first time poster of a review to review a new lady with no reviews.
The rating system could be improved but I think the guys here that know what they are doing look at more then just the numbers. When I read a review, I also look to see who else the reviewer has reviewed and see if they seem to fall in line. One mans 10 could be another mans 5. I'm a pretty hard grader. I don't pass out 9's and 10's easily and I don't think that anyone will ever come back to me and say "how could you rate her a 9".
I also don't write reviews on every lady I see. I tend to write reviews for the ladies who, in my opinion, really "knocked my socks off". If you read my review history, I also sometime write a review for really poor performance.
And ladies, if I have seen you and did not write a review of you, please don't take it that I didn't enjoy our time together. Not true. Sometimes I get a little lazy and don't get around to posting a review. Ladies, please remember too that it does take some time on our part to post a review. I would say that the average time it takes me to write a review and fill in all the information we must do when submitting a review takes about a hour on the average.
I guess the bottom line here is not to get hung up on numbers. The smart gents here don't just look at the numbers. We do our research, read the reviews, read the reviewers other reviews, and in a lot of cases trade PM's to other hobbyiest.
You have a good reputation in my book Miss Wild and if you ever made it up to the Orlando area, I would love to meet you.
What I don't understand is why anyone would THINK that a sentence like THIS:
"I think she's attractive so I was anxious to meet her"...
would be a BELIEVABLE statement WITH the rating system CLEARLY in place.
It sounds STUPID to me.
It would NOT sound stupid WITHOUT the rating system & # choices in place,
as some people NEVER use the words "beautiful" or "gorgeous".
The whole thing seems so transparent to me.
Thank you 2cupsplease, for your compliment.
Because of my unorthodox approach to this business...
I have been hesitant to travel BUT,
The more I feel at home here the more inclined I am to travel
& WE might meet & I will look forward to it!
WT
As every system it has glitch's to it and the review system here along with other sites has problems. From personal experience I know it is extremely hard to get a 10 on here. It is simply up to the discretion of the person approving the review. I thought you had to offer more to get a ten. Such as trips to islands to get a 10. I look at it like this there are politics in everything we do in life. Not everyone is going tHink we are a 10 even if we give stellar service. We have to be thankful for our regulars and people who think we are awesome. Also, hope that a potential date does his research on us. If you have a fake review like you have report it. The worst thing we could possibly do is mis represent ourselves.
Comparing TER to other sites I think this is by far the best and most accurate! I have had nothing but a positive experience over the past years!
Stay safe sweetie!!
Xoxox
Alyssa
Well AD, thanks for replying.
As I told DD in a PM earlier today, I am grateful for this site.
I do PREFER the policies of a local board (that YOU are also a member of) in that,
WE ARE ABLE TO REPLY IN THE REVIEWS THERE.
It is more the SNEAKY behavior that the rating system encourages IMO
& that is my main focus in THIS thread.
I DID report the fake reviews.
Funny you should mention the "Greek" part of the 10 score...
3 of my TER customers told me that they were surprised,
that they were able to give me 10's since I do NOT offer it.
They simply checked the 10 boxes THEY believed I deserved & were pleasantly surprised.
I will stay safe & you do the same.
Xoxoxoxo to you too
from,
me
Well maybe I will be getting a 10 soon since I don't think you have that on your menu. I think consistency in a provider ratings speaks volumes over a 10 here and there. But, as I said before we can't please everyone and everyone is going to have different expectations.
That "other" board sucks compared to this site. I have stopped posting on there completely and honestly it was the best thing I ever did for my business. Stick with TER honey it has a better reputation and I feel A LOT better clientele.
Xoxox
AD
I JUST said (in my last post) that I do NOT have Greek on my menu
so NOW you KNOW I DON'T.
I am not going to put down the local board that has been my bread & butter for YEARS.
While it is TRUE that TER has advantages that the other board does not,
I LIKE THEM BOTH & there are things that work better on each one.
NOT being able to reply to our own reviews IMO, is a flaw.
Consistent "ratings" have NOTHING over a consistent income
& NO ONE is more aware of that than I am.
I am happy that you are doing well HERE & thank G-d I am too.
I will say this once again...
I am NOT about to let this rating system discourage me from posting TRUE & ACCURATE representations of myself in every way.
Back in the "dark ages" when I was a young, healthy idiot who was willing to exit perfectly good aircraft in flight with over 200 pounds strapped to my boney (HA) body. the military instituted a number rating system to critic their leaders. My boss at the time sat down with me and discussed with me my review. I thought (at that time) the numbers fairly reflected that while I could not walk on water, I was able just to slosh around to my knees and I was a good selection for advanced promotion.
Then the world wide statistics came out. By the numbers, I had to seriously worry about being forced out of the service without retirement for the next year.
The next year, we looked at the averages again, created a fair evaluation (by the numbers) and I still ended up below average.
The third year, we decided just to screw it all to get me the promotion I deserved, maxed all the numbers and created a comment section that basicly said that while I could not part the Red Sea, I did not need to as I could walk on the water.
When I write a review, I try to look at the comments that other people write, and it they seemed to have as good of time that I had, I match the numbers.
That being said, while I have rated others "10's", I have never, ever, experienced what I would call a "10" experience. I know I haven't because I have never left the appointment in a pine box or with a sheet pulled over my head and a provider has not have to call 911 (boy, is that poor English).
I also let the provider know that I am going to write a review, that I had a good time (or not, YMMV and why). FWIF the ladys I have talked to seem to appreciate this approach.
'rock'
Fake reviews are unnacceptable for all the reasons soflaguy pointed out. Our safety, both provider and hobbyist, needs to our #1 priority. I can live with a disappointing session because the review system is flawed. You can live with a lower review # than you think you might deserve. However, neither of us can live with the breach of security.
I'm not sure how they handle fake reviews now, but I hope the are investigated thoroughly. Maybe a challenged review should have an asterik(*) to let us know that the review has been questioned?
As for the rating system...it will never be perfect for all the reasons that have been rehashed over and over again. That being said, I know the numbers are important to the girls for business reasons. The numbers and what they represent are messed up to begin with.
6- Nice
7 -Attractive
8- Really Hot
9- Model Material
10- Once In A Lifetime
Some reviewers pass out several 10's a year (granted they may high rollers that play big). Others take the once in a lifetime literally and are reserving that # for that once in a lifetime moment. Only in our industry is "attractive" considered bad. Even "really hot" may piss of a provider. Performance #'s and their descriptions aren't much better.
Bottom line; Please don't get too bent out of shape over numbers. Please do go crazy over fake reviews.
Thanks for bring up the topic of fake reviews. We do have to look out for one another.
I see and hear a lot of people not being completely sure how the rating system "works" (or is supposed to) so I'll attempt to clear it up a bit.
First....the easy part. (copied from the provided link below:
"An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum."
So top score possible is a 7. How about that?
Extra rating score points are allowed for each of the listed services. So BBBJ? Highest score possible is now an 8. Kiss with tongue as well? Now she can max out at a 9. If the profile says "really bi" that's worth another possible point. The reasoning behind that one escapes me....but that's a discussion for a different time.
Please note that a lady does NOT have to take it up the wazoo in order to get a 10.
Hope that clears it up.
The second part of the discussion of ratings is not so easy. Also copied from the provided link.:
"Also, save the 8 and 9 appearance ratings for ultra-special ladies. The 10 rating should be reserved for a provider who just lived up to your most powerful fantasy."
And....
"Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!"
This is the difficult part because
1. It's subjective
2. Some people focus too much on numbers and not how they are defined.
Here's what I mean.
Yes....everyone wants a 10....everyone wants to be a 10. But let's face it.....not everyone is a 10. Anyone who has met me can tell you that's CLEARLY true. I'm a 5-6 depending on the lighting and amount of alcohol involved. ![]()
There are many ladies who would get upset to a certain degree if they got a 8 / 7 review. Let's be honest here.
But that review means (based on guideline definitions)
8 "She was really hot"
7 "It was really hot" (performance)
Are there really people that would take offense to being referred to as "really hot"? Probably not. But give them an 8 and they go apeshit and get offended.
It's just my opinion that many times the "numbers" get too much importance placed on them.
Some of these numbers also get de-valued by people who throw out 9s and 10s like candy from the Rotary club float during the 4th of July parade.
At the end of the day, one of the few things most of us can agree on is that this site, and the system here, is the best thing going.
It's not perfect, never will be, because the only way to really screw something up.....is have people involved in it.
While the ratings system and review process quirks can possibly be accepted.....false reviews is something that should never be tolerated under any circumstances.
Whenever possible we need to maintain some sense of honor in "this thing of ours".
Just sayin'
DD
First, I believe the rating system and fake reviews are seperate issues.
As for the rating system for looks:
1) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man's 10 can easily be a 6 to another.
2) There are different levels of beauty. I see women I consider to be "beautiful" or "gorgeous" all the time. I might only rate them a 7 or 8 though, just because I think a woman is beautiful doesn't mean I think she's a 9 or 10 and should be on the cover of Playboy or a Victoria's Secret model.
3) I, and I believe most other hobbyists here, do my own research. I read each review in its entirety and follow the links to the ads or provider websites and see for myself. I always look to see if the "photos accurate" box is applied. For a provider such as yourself, the appearance ratings are meaningless. You provide full body photos of yourself including your face. I can judge for myself and if I find you attractive, then the opinion of some stranger is moot to me. I only look at appearance ratings for ladies who hide their face to see what the general consensus is.
Performance ratings:
1) These are completely subjective too. I just tend to pay attention to the services provided, the provider's attitude, and the overall feeling of satisfaction I get from the author's review. I only pay attention to the number rating as an overall consensus among all the reviewers. If I see all 8's and 9's and then a random 6, I tend to discount the low number as a fluke.
I understand your concern with fake reviews, but if reporting a review as fake were to get it removed, then every provider could just simply report every bad review as fake and the main purpose of this website would be defeated. It's not a perfect system, but every system in every walk of life is flawed or can be taken advantage of eventually. Maybe if a reviewer is reported by multiple providers for writing fake reviews his history could be taken into account and the reviews deleted.
I too have reported what I believed to be a fake review and never received a response. I also have reviews that are not altogether accurate. Even my profile states that I do facials, I do NOT do facials.
The most important thing you can do is be the best provider you can be. Not everyone will think you're the best, but some will. Concentrate on the regulars and cultivating new, quality clientele. The way you represent yourself is what you will draw to you.
I am not one to brag, I know who I am and what I have to offer. I am actually quite humble and many men find that alluring about me.
I think it's good to have a healthy self esteem, but be careful not to be full of yourself. Those top 100 ratings fluctuate each day. The number 5 girl may be number 7 tomorrow.
Just my 2 cents.
Have a great weekend.
S
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As one of you mentioned,
I DO post FULL pics of myself
& THAT is the only reason I wasn't REALLY UPSET about the appearance ratings.
I have been ON THIS board now for a couple of years but
it took me a LONG time ('til this past summer) to learn to navigate it
& until TODAY to better UNDERSTAND it.
Since I posted this,
I got a call from a TER member who owns a business & HE told me,
that ALL businesses that are "rated" by numbers or stars are more likely to get FAKE reviews
& that HE STOPPED READING the reviews of HIS business because it was too frustrating.
In my HONEST opinion, the rating system IS FUEL FOR FAKE REVIEWS, in BOTH directions
& at THIS moment...
I am REALLY GLAD that I post FULL Pics.
Thanks again to ALL who replied.
I have nothing to hide, but I wouldn't want my family to ever see photos of me on an escort site. Some of us have a lot to lose, so blurring my face is important. I do show portions of my face, such as my smile. Many of my clients are high profile and want to be with a lady who is discrete and kind of behind the scenes and not so high profile.
If you are able to show your face, good for you. It's not for all of us. Doesn't mean there is anything hideous behind the blur...... and yes there may be fake reviews but once you've reached a certain number, the averages usually indicate looks and performance. TER does keep track of IP addresses and cookies. Fake reviews may be more difficult than we believe them to be.![]()
I too am very private and always will be. I don't show my face fully in my photos for the same exact reasons that you have stated. The gentlemen I have met value their privacy as well as mine. One of the more important aspects is discretion and safety, which transcends for both ladies and gents. I blur or partially crop my face only for the reasons stated above. Many of my reviews on TER and on my website describe me to be very pretty. So there you have it. Thank you for bringing this topic up Sunny ![]()
Reviews are the opinion of the experience(s) one has with the escort with whom they've had an appointment. Sometimes the lady is beautiful, the chemistry is great and the same lady with some one else its just not there. It is the same for the ladies there is not the connection with the guy whereas with another its great. Somedays the sun shines and other days its cloudy/rains.
I had been a somewhat regular contributor to TER up till about 4 years ago, attended a few M&G's, etc. At the time, I chose not to submit reviews. Back when Sly was our Mod he encouraged me to do so but I was reluctant due to my inability to tell a story the way most can. While in 'retirement' I rarley contributed to the board after some folks (not Florida) using aliases decided to flame my lack of being a team player etc. when I was just asking some simple questions and trying to contribute to that particular board. I decided that it just wasn't worth my time to get into on-line battles with faceless, gutless folks who hide behind their computers to say things they wouldn't have the balls to do in front of my face.
Getting to the gist of this thread, I'm now in a position to have a little fun again but with no reviews I'm starting from scratch. The ladies I used to see are gone except for one lady who I saw several times but after 4 or 5 years, I doubt she'd remember me. I recently contacted a few ladies and was asked for references and of course mine are stale so there hasn't been a hook-up as of yet. Hind-sight is 20/20 and now I'm quite disappointed in myself for not submitting reviews as it's come back to bite me, although it might not matter since there isn't anyone to vouch for me these days anyway.
We know there are a certain amount of fake reviews and I actually thought of doing the same to avoid battles and possibly become a contributor again but no... I won't bend that low. This did bring up a thought that perhaps there are a few guys who submit fakes for some sort of credibility, kinda like the guy who used to brag in school about banging a bunch of girls he didn't. I would think it would be a small number but you never know.
a-clouds
I believe that's were I met you and will be happy to see your friendly face again. While enjoying the party spread yourself around to meet all the lovely ladies. I bet you'll meet some who remember you.
Kisses Haley
Yes, I'm planning on that barring anything unforeseen. I'll be sure to say hello.
a-clouds
Then you can write your first review .!! I will put on the White list...
Sly wrote a review on me and my girlfriend as well on the other site.
Just hope I'm your type !!!
And thanks to Wildthing Bringing it up !!!!! She is a smart cookie..
I personally am also tired of fake reviews and fake photos especially. I met a provider last week, her photos were of a 5'-5" 110# model type, reality was a 5'-0" 150# not model type. I was polite and complementary and im not going to comment any further beacause I consider myself a gentleman and that is not my style. I just saw a new review this week on the same provider talking about her "model looks." PLEASE be honest if you are going to review a provider. Many hobbyists on here work hard for the money to spend on providers and it is dissapointing to waste it on providers that are not what we are looking for.
I appreciate that ladies will be troubled by fake reviews, or those that they feel are inaccurate. I can only speak as a consumer of the information. I always keep a large bag of salt next to me when I'm online, because I need to take so many grains of it with what I read.
I look at reviews as a means to inform my decision making, but I don't take them as gospel. Good or bad. A few mixed reviews don't impact me. I try to manage my expectations, and that works for me.
However, one or more "stay away" reviews, or ones that describe dodgy incall locations, if that's all that is posted, will keep me away.
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