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references vs, employer and other personal screening info...
dragoon7 2984 reads
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I've been reading about what seems to be a step-up in LE activity in several cities.  There are several agencies involved.   I have been contemplating no longer giving out my employer info and personal or business phone numbers (other than my cell) and just having several reputable ladies who know me, agree to provide me a reference when potential new providers want to verify me.  

1.  Have any of you hobbyists drawn such a line for yourselves and is it working?
2.  Do any of you providers have a reaction to this?  Would you hesitate to see someone that only offered you a reference and refused to give up the other info (let's assume that you could establish positive ID once the guy showed up via drivers license AND that you were actually able to make contact with the reference(s) he gave you)

Please jump in on this one, folks.  I'm interested in your "take".

D7

-- Modified on 1/28/2006 4:13:07 PM

LE activity will happen but one waya to avoid is by simply having her come to you.  LE want to control the scene for their safety so you going to her is potential trap, although minimal risk.  
ost times busts are street walkers and established shops such as massage places.

As far as ID, its pretty stupid on her part to check because anyone can give out any number and whenyou call anyone can answer saying anything you want.  Sure, you can cross reference thru an internet search or phone book but is she REALLY gonna take the time???  Not hardly.....besides you can show all the ID you want, throw out all kinds of licenses, say you are NOT the man in blue BUT.....IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!  It is NOT entrapment of ANY kind for the po-po to lie, show ID of anyone (easyily obtained for LE).....as for me.....if they ask for ID, I just say no coz its stupid on her part to get it and if she does get busted and its an agency or on her puter.....YOUR INFO GOES TO THE MAN!!!!!!!

lover22398 reads

the ladies that are working with LE?  They can provide references, in the end both the client and lady can have issues with LE.
Lately a lot of ladies have LE issues how do we know who has been arrested and who has not?  Some arrests are kept quiet, some ladies do cut a deal with LE.  
Go with your gut.  Ladies are even pulling their websites, directory listings, reviews etc.
Bottom line noone is safe right now.
IMHO

Dragoon,

Very good point sweetie! I can not speak for all the ladies, but I personally will take (2) well known Provider References in place of a Business phone number and other more private screening information.

In fact, I would much rather have references, than work information!!!  What better way to know that you are visiting a "nice guy" than hearing it from someone who has already been there ;-)

Good Question sweetie!!!

XOXOX Bridgette


I would avoid agencies due to so many agencies getting into trouble.

xo Lisa

-- Modified on 1/29/2006 1:21:59 PM

-- Modified on 1/29/2006 10:42:01 PM

The following is what I posted about a week ago on the Newbie board in response to a question and it applies here:  

"I ask for your mobile #, your first and last name (when we meet I quickly check ID to see that the name you gave me and the face on the ID match) and either a website of a provider that you've seen before so I can call her and ask her if you're o.k. OR you can instead give me your business # and I'll call and ask for you.  If the receptionist asks for my name I make one up.  If you're not in, I don't leave a message, if I'm directed to your mailbox, I don't leave a message.  If you answer I just tell you to email me when you get a chance.  

I don't think that you'd have any problem with giving this information if you chose a provider who has lots of good reviews, a website, an e-mail address and a phone number.  She will act professionally, a provider just wants to assure that her safety isn't jeopardized."

Also I agree with Lisa Butler's and Bridgette's posts.  :)

I have to agree with Bridgette, that is a great question and references are the way to go.  I personally will not accept “personal” information in lieu of a reference and always require a minimum of two references from established providers.    There are many gentlemen out there that prefer to keep their private information just that – private.  Our main concern is that you are a safe gentleman that is experienced as a hobbyist – it puts us at ease and ensures a much more enjoyable time for both us.

The following is from a post of mine from a few days ago on the Newbie Board:

"I ask for your mobile #, your first and last name (when we meet I quickly check ID to see that the name you gave me and the face on the ID match) and either a website of a provider that you've seen before so I can call her and ask her if you're o.k. OR you can instead give me your business # and I'll call and ask for you.  If the receptionist asks for my name I make one up.  If you're not in, I don't leave a message, if I'm directed to your mailbox, I don't leave a message.  If you answer I just tell you to email me when you get a chance.  

I don't think that you'd have any problem with giving this information if you chose a provider who has lots of good reviews, a website, an e-mail address and a phone number.  She will act professionally, she just wants to assure that her safety isn't jeopardized."

Also, I agree with Lisa Butler and Bridgette that independents, rather than agencies, are the way to go to further avoid LE.  :)

Andrea Abruzzi2444 reads

Is still remember OFC and what it created so I will be damned if I will give a provider anything personal other than a cell phone number.  Best bet is to get to know a dancer at one of the local strip clubs and try to create a "friend with benefits" set up.  It works for me and my dancer "friends" don't ask for anywhere near the inflated rates that the local indys ask.

if the gentleman doesn't have a reference from another provider for whatever reason, I will accept his bus # or some other type of verification.  I, and most other well-reviewed independents, are professionals and don't retain information anyway.  It seems kind of risky for a variety of reasons to solicit strippers in the clubs, but I guess I really don't know too much about it, continued good luck though.  :)

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