This board has been informative, and I have also found a potential disincentive to visit an FKK Club.

I am a reformed smoker - I know - the worst kind.  Quit many years ago, and I still find a smoke filled room uncomfortable.  The idea of DFKing a person with smoker's breath is very unappealing.  From what I have read, an early visit may be adviseable, and because I will be restricted to daytime visits, this would work for me.

My questions - will the smoke in clubs be less of a problem shortly after opening?
                   - is it acceptable to ask a girl if she is a smoker?
                   - are the zimmers usually smoke-free areas?
                   - are there any smoke-free clubs along the Ruine, Main and Danube?

Useful information will be much appreciated.

I have never met a girl in a club that doesn't smoke...and I mean that literally. Some clubs have non-smoking areas, but I honestly don't really notice the smoke (as a lifelong non-smoker). Most zimmers have ashtrays and it is quite common for girls to light one up after you're done. If you have problems with it, I'm sure the girls can go without a siggy for (half) an hour...well some of them at least. If you want the girls will probably be willing to use some mouthwash before getting to kissing, I personally don't really notice when DFK anymore.

Generally, there are a much higher percentage of smokers in Europe than in North America.  As a lifelong nonsmoker, I agree that it used to be unbearable in FKKs and Partytreffs.  Recently, Germany instituted non-smoking laws for businesses and government buildings similar to North America.  The difference is in how it's implemented.  Some FKKs have banned smoking in all areas, so the girls and customers who smoke have to go out in the lobby or in a designated smoking area.  Some have smoking and non-smoking areas in the same club which are separated by a glass door or something.  This is marginally effective because there aren't the necessary modifications to the HVAC systems.  Also, most, if not all, of the action takes place in the smoking area.  As is the case here, FKK owners get around the nonsmoking laws by declaring that their businesses are "private clubs" or something like that.

My experience has been that most girls tend to smoke when they are not with a customer.  You will see them in a gaggle by themselves.  They are generally respectful of a customer's desires in this area.  I tend to shower frequently in these places, so whatever smoky smell I get (especially in my hair) doesn't last long.  The locker room & shower areas in the newer places are smoke-free and are good no-smoking areas.

I agree that going in the afternoons on a slow day is a good idea.  You will be overwhelmed by the girls, the atmosphere (sexual) and by a culture where consenting adults can do whatever they want without having to look over their shoulder every 5 minutes.

Mr. Sixty - Everyone's right that smoking in FKKs is pervasive. Almost no way around that. As a lifetime non-smoker, I just decided to gird my loins and deal with it, same as with strip clubs in America. It's unfortunately part of the price to participate in what otherwise is an unbelievably awesome pastime.

Earlier in the day will, however, help with the second-hand smoke concentration, and I'm sure any of the girls would be happy to munch a couple tic tacs on the way to the zimmer that you could politely offer. Also, if visiting in good weather, you might find outdoors sex, or sex inside facilities like free standing cabanas or lodges with open windows, to your liking. FKKs such as Oase, Goldentime, Villa Vertigo, Mainhatten, and Sharks have beautiful lawns (some with pools) that include these facilities. Or, if you're okay with a little voyeurism from others, just revel with your favorite girl right out in the open in a hammock or on a large deck bed. I've seen that many times. Nature can be quite an aphrodisiac and your lungs will thank you.

-- Modified on 3/5/2012 6:16:31 AM

I hate smoking and I have no problem at any of the clubs in Germany.
But what I do I don't stay too long wherever I see a lot of smoking.
Most clubs have a non smoking area.
Most girls use listerine before and after every session.
Girls have a smoke here and there to relax but when they want to get work done they abstain as many guys dont like smoking
Oase is not known to have clean rooms, once in a while some rooms smell real bad.  Just tell the girl the room is too dirty and wait for next room
Sometimes at Goldent time, room may smell of other type of smoke but they have a spray in each room. 90% of the time it;s not a problem.