hy do so few providers list activities enjoyed on P411?  

As a normal, youngish, professional guy who values mutual safety, quality, and the benefits of a good match between client & provider; it is very helpful to know what is possible/preferred/potentially offered.  
This limits potential mismatched expectations/ desires.  It seems that this match would be something important to both a quality client and a quality provider.  I tend to avoid such potential mismatches of expectations as it potentiates a bad experience; and so tend to avoid providers who don't identify their activities enjoyed in private.  

It is particularly difficult to ascertain the provider's activities from appropriately discreet reviews, discrete  web site which should not give such detail)  etc.  It is impossible to ascertain when a provider does not have a web site or has limited reviews.  

A related question: How does a guy ascertain enjoyed activities/ preferences/potential offerings (prior to booking - so not to waste each other's time, of course) when a provider does not identify these

.....because, in a way, one is discussing pay for play (specific sex acts), which of course, is illegal in the United States.  P411 has the advantage of being based in Canada, but many ladies do not know this.

   Also, please keep in mind, that one might enjoy a certin activity with one gentleman, but it might not be the same with the next.  Even something as simple as DFK, can be a disaster if the gentleman has bad breath, bad teeth, pulls your head back by your hair, etc.

   I would suggest contacting the reviewer by PM, if you would like more details.  I know my reviewers are always happy to assist.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

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Thanks for the insight  
   
    I certainly respect the woman's choice as to activities; appreciate that an individual experience may be different as a result of that choice.  It seems a given that listed activities may/may not be available - simply because it is an interaction between people with free will.  Listing activities enjoyed wouldn't imply a loss of free-will.  ' No 'means 'No.'  

Asking (by PM) a reviewer would be complicated, awkward, and likely unhelpful.  It would be unclear from a PM discussion why particular activities were/ were not offered (unless the man had uncanny self-awareness or there was an almost unimaginably candid discussion during the session;  e.g: ' I apologize, I do DFK with many gentlemen.  But because of your breath, this is not available for you.')  It seems as though, most skilled courtesans would avoid that level of candor - leaving the gentleman to feel as though he were uniquely unqualified.  One would need to know the reviewer intimately to understand why an activity was not available.  That  degree of intimacy by a PM seems unlikely.  The discussion would not likely add clarity to the question:  was the service denied because of the guy or is the service unavailable to any guy?  

It seems like the 'pay for play' concern is also unfounded - for the reasons you cite.  There really is no conceivable way that listing activities (as they are on P411) would contribute to prosecution.  A case must be established by criminal actions - actions easily avoided by relatively simple, standard, well-known precautions.  In the U.S., the posting would not - could not- contribute to evidence of a crime.  I'm not a lawyer, but I have many friends who are (many are red-blooded American males who visit reputable providers ) top lawyers.  They are baffled by the apparent misconceptions about this among professionals in this field.  

It seems like there is greater risk to both parties by inviting a detailed discussion of activities during a meeting.  Even if comfort is established, that direct discussion can create some risk. Wouldn't it be better to have clients and providers make well-informed choices; then stop talking...?  

Thanks for your kind, candid response and I wish I still lived in D.C.

I am not going to blatantly, on my own profile admit to anything. You need to do your research on here.

can certainly respect a provider's choice regarding candor./publicity.  But it seems that - given that there is no increased legal risk from stating preferred activities - mystery is created about basics and not about the subtleties of service.  Just one guy's opinion, but I believe the subtle mysteries go a longer way...

and why I don't list a complete menu... is that YMMV!!!  Depends a lot on chemistry!!

If a provider were to get busted her website, reviews and P411 listing complete with services she offers would be printed out and used against her.  Someone so blatantly advertising everything would not get off Scott free.  

  Saying GFE for example should be enough. The rest of the work is up to you doing your research on say, TER for example. Read the reviews.

And they have been used in court. " fantasy" or " those enjoyed in private" were used against a provider i knew back East..along with her webpage etc in a small town court. Blatantly advertising Anything is not smart. There are enough hints out there with established ladies to know what we enjoy ( hence why TOFTT is always risky with lesser knowns) .. Keeping it legal by keeping the naughty bits behind closed doors and between the two parties ( a smart companion screens for compatibility also...ie: someone approaching me who has only seen 19 yr old blonde flat chested providers who specialize in Greek..well...I will question the match..) .   This is probably why gents a decade or more ago, once they found a wonderful provider that meshed well with what they were looking for were more regular in visits. There are tons of options on the internet now a days..which brings out " the shopper/hunter" in many...but not without some element of risk. No matter how the internet has evolved and the marketing and advertising has morphed..it's still not like ordering a pizza.

I can't tell if you are in search of something unique and have been frustrated by your attempts at finding a provider to satisfy your unique desires - or - if the providers you like, don't offer the services you are looking for... that can be a challenge.  I PROMISE you - there is a match for EVERY kink... you just need to adjust the trade offs.  If you have a balloon fetish, but you can't find the super hot blond that is into it, you need to decide what is more important and move on.

First - I would start by posting an "ISO" to the board just as you did in this string.  What are you looking for?  Ask for recommendations - fellow board members will post a response, and / or a provider will reach out to say they will "volunteer."  Then - check to see if they have the other criteria you are looking for.  

Second - use your standard selection criteria to locate a good match and complete your pre-screen.  Once you are screened, I suggest you set up your date and provide some thoughts on what you would like (discreetly).  Most of the providers I have met are willing to accommodate, or are direct in letting you know they are not a great match.

I'm a role play guy that is into mature women - I also like to meet new people, so I occasionally post to the board looking for new recommendations (as I did this morning) and I almost always get a set of new options.

Finally - consider a road trip.  The exact match may not be in Denver... open your search criteria to NYC, LA, LV and Miami - they have massive selections with a ton of diversity - you may just find exactly what you are looking for and enjoy a new city at the same time.  I travel a TON for work and look for matches around the country.  Hell - I book travel just to see people that are a good match.  Makes work travel worth it!

Best of luck!

While adding illegal sex acts below a price cannot convict a provider, it does put a target on her for LE. There have been many a time that a prosecution lawyer has waved around a print off of a ladies reviews and her P411 profile stating sex acts. Not a slam dunk by any means but a lot harder to deny anything when it is there in B&W. Sort of like on cross, the prosecution asks a question that he/she knows is not allowed but sneaks it in anyway...you can't unhear a rung bell.

I have NOTHING ANYWHERE (no reviews either) in regard to what I will and will not do. No acronyms no nothing so I am going to be a lot harder to deal with legally should it come to that.  

I see where you are coming from but my safety is way more important that listing a menu for a john to make up his mind. I get plenty of business without that and these guys choose me in part, because of my level of discretion. To note, most are not hobbyists and that is fine by me.