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Sage of Chicago See my TER Reviews 1663 reads
posted
1 / 16

if it has been longer then a year since we visited or if there was an issue during the date I can't vouch for you.  PLEASE stop using me for a reference 2-3 and up to 8yrs out as I can't reliably vouch for the type of person you currently are because that visit is no longer a current event.  Not trying to be a hard ass, in order to give a reliable reference I will ask that that you only provide me as a reference for about 1yr.  I also ask please that you not provide me a reference more then 1yr old.  If you do not visit providers often then join RS2K, otherwise many providers only provide reference for 3-6mo much less the full year I give.

I have had about 15 requests from guests for reference I either never visited, had a NCNS on record with me, shorted me, or had visited to long for me to vouch.  I HATE turning down a reference request, but I am not about to put another lady in danger for the sake of "helping" someone out.

Sorry about the PSA, it just has become so widespread that I just have no clue how else I can address it

beyes587 84 Reviews 465 reads
posted
5 / 16

Just funnin ya.  But having said that, is a reference based on currency or memory?  Your statement implies that we should also ignore reviews greater than a year.  I think rapport has something to do with it. Some hobbyists have asked me about me experiences with providers I reviewed years ago.  I can always say "my experience then was" thus and so.

Sage of Chicago See my TER Reviews 546 reads
posted
6 / 16

It is a little different dynamic from your side then from ours.  We are faced with those larger and stronger then us and have to know if a gent in violent or an issue currently, I have seen wonderful guests turn into horrible ones where they personally damage the ladies(many without meaning to but we still need to know).  Current references are important and when someone provides me an old reference it makes me thing the same as someone who hasn't visited me in a long time and wants me to provide one....  Which is, what have they done since then and a big red flag is raised as I start to imagine horrific things that have happened in the past couple years with the providers they may have seen but don't want to use as a reference

Personally if I was a guest any review over 1yr old wouldn't really be relevant, those would be good only to show a history of performance and looks by #'s only services and attitude could have totally changed and totally does not say a thing of how that provider might be today.

Lastly, us providing a reference is a courtesy(in which many ladies never subscribe and flat out refuse to do) not a right that we have to provide you and if we only feel that we can safely provide a reference for a certain length of time then you are getting a gift.   If you then ask her to extend beyond her own comfort levels is kinda rude.  If you need that type of reference that will last forever then join RS2K.  We don't and won't keep your info forever, and without info there is nothing to give a reference from.

I am not asking those guys to come back unless they really need to use ME(and not someone else) to continue to provide a reference for them.  I am asking them to provide a newer more up to date reference then I.  It is not about finance, it is about keeping women safe and I can't do that if I am only working with old info.

I have had some say(because I will often call the gent and let him know why I can't provide the reference) why don't you just tell her that you saw me 3 years ago and leave it at that.  Because they will see him thinking that I gave the ok.  Last time I did that a provider was beaten and robbed and to this day I still feel guilt.  Is that a reason enough?

Guys I hate to turn away a reference but a year is my limit.  Please respect me by not asking me to make an exception for you.  And ladies since this is happening with me and I am sure to others as well so often right now please ask them how long it has been before asking for the reference just so that if I or another have to turn it down you already know why.  Poor Talaya has asked me close to 1/2 dozen times and they have all been 3 or more years out and one was a NCNS.  

There is a saying Common Sense just isn't that Common Anymore(someone else said it before Dr Phil but it is so true)

-- Modified on 9/11/2012 3:52:09 PM

7531598246 17 Reviews 374 reads
posted
7 / 16

We've only met once and that more than a year ago, but you're still one of the smartest people in this biz I've ever met. Nobody should ever have to apologize for having standards.

macdaddy1944 51 Reviews 367 reads
posted
8 / 16

most providers i see have a strict 6 month rule unless you are a regular..makes sense..you have to draw the line somewhere..

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 412 reads
posted
9 / 16

....good god.
Yeah anything over 1yr since i've last seen you it's too too old (for me).
But WOW the nerve that some never met you or technically robbed you (shorting on purpose or by accident and never paying back is what it is....stealing) or ncns'ed to use you as a reference takes major balls. That's especially why ladies need to check with other ladies about references instead of just taking their word for it.  

Trust this PSA was needed.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 404 reads
posted
10 / 16

.....of vagina lol common sense isn't always common.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 310 reads
posted
11 / 16

This. -e-

Posted By: Sage of Chicago
It is a little different dynamic from your side then from ours.  We are faced with those larger and stronger then us and have to know if a gent in violent or an issue currently, I have seen wonderful guests turn into horrible ones where they personally damage the ladies(many without meaning to but we still need to know).  Current references are important and when someone provides me an old reference it makes me thing the same as someone who hasn't visited me in a long time and wants me to provide one....  Which is, what have they done since then and a big red flag is raised as I start to imagine horrific things that have happened in the past couple years with the providers they may have seen but don't want to use as a reference

Personally if I was a guest any review over 1yr old wouldn't really be relevant, those would be good only to show a history of performance and looks by #'s only services and attitude could have totally changed and totally does not say a thing of how that provider might be today.

Lastly, us providing a reference is a courtesy(in which many ladies never subscribe and flat out refuse to do) not a right that we have to provide you and if we only feel that we can safely provide a reference for a certain length of time then you are getting a gift.   If you then ask her to extend beyond her own comfort levels is kinda rude.  If you need that type of reference that will last forever then join RS2K.  We don't and won't keep your info forever, and without info there is nothing to give a reference from.

I am not asking those guys to come back unless they really need to use ME(and not someone else) to continue to provide a reference for them.  I am asking them to provide a newer more up to date reference then I.  It is not about finance, it is about keeping women safe and I can't do that if I am only working with old info.

I have had some say(because I will often call the gent and let him know why I can't provide the reference) why don't you just tell her that you saw me 3 years ago and leave it at that.  Because they will see him thinking that I gave the ok.  Last time I did that a provider was beaten and robbed and to this day I still feel guilt.  Is that a reason enough?

Guys I hate to turn away a reference but a year is my limit.  Please respect me by not asking me to make an exception for you.  And ladies since this is happening with me and I am sure to others as well so often right now please ask them how long it has been before asking for the reference just so that if I or another have to turn it down you already know why.  Poor Talaya has asked me close to 1/2 dozen times and they have all been 3 or more years out and one was a NCNS.  

There is a saying Common Sense just isn't that Common Anymore(someone else said it before Dr Phil but it is so true)

-- Modified on 9/11/2012 3:52:09 PM

looklum 352 reads
posted
12 / 16

you are 100% right,this is not a joking matter,is a safety matter

beccablossoms See my TER Reviews 415 reads
posted
13 / 16

I totally agree and very well said.  I don't give references for anyone that has seen me more than 6 months ago.  We're dealing with the safety and well being of other humans and that's nothing to joke about.  People change, sometimes in bad ways.  I have had providers tell me in that past that it has been a very long time since they say the gentleman in question and I personally won't accept that as a reference.  I greatly appreicate the honesty of the provider being used as a reference also.  

Posted By: Sage of Chicago
if it has been longer then a year since we visited or if there was an issue during the date I can't vouch for you.  PLEASE stop using me for a reference 2-3 and up to 8yrs out as I can't reliably vouch for the type of person you currently are because that visit is no longer a current event.  Not trying to be a hard ass, in order to give a reliable reference I will ask that that you only provide me as a reference for about 1yr.  I also ask please that you not provide me a reference more then 1yr old.  If you do not visit providers often then join RS2K, otherwise many providers only provide reference for 3-6mo much less the full year I give.

I have had about 15 requests from guests for reference I either never visited, had a NCNS on record with me, shorted me, or had visited to long for me to vouch.  I HATE turning down a reference request, but I am not about to put another lady in danger for the sake of "helping" someone out.

Sorry about the PSA, it just has become so widespread that I just have no clue how else I can address it

HayleyHills38DD See my TER Reviews 379 reads
posted
14 / 16

You are very right. Most guys have no idea how scary it can be for us. I have heard too many horror stories about guys that were fine with one lady and dangerous for the next! It is about being safe! I have not needed a reference from you in a long time, but I am very glad to know that there are ladies out there like you that will protect us! We all need to watch out for each other. Guys have places like TER where they can openly protect each other and most likely they do not have to worry about the physical dangers we do, they just have to worry about bait and switch or cut and run or less dangerous issues. Most guys I have seen have been great, but the few awful ones do really affect you for life. I am so grateful to my many regulars that I enjoy so much! Thank you Sage for doing your best to keep us all safe! You truly are appreciated!

earthshined 358 reads
posted
15 / 16

who gave me an ok on P411 after one year.Particularly, if I only saw them once.

I don't expect them to call/check a year old reference anyway.

GigglingGuy 16 Reviews 316 reads
posted
16 / 16

It's incredible that someone would have the audacity to use a provider they did a NCNS as a reference. This makes me wonder if they mistakenly think it's like filling out a job application, where one doesn't expect the previous employers to actually be contacted.  Behavior like that though makes me think of  the need for one of the tools the Companions' Guild had on the science fiction series Firefly.  Companions could black-list a client, preventing them from securing appointments with other Companions.

When I want to see a provider, I take the reference checks and screening seriously.  Everyone wins. The provider has watched out for her safety and peace of mind.  And if she feels comfortable with me,  then the evening will be all the much more fun.

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