I just got VIP back (laziness) after not having it since March. Holy cow....out of the 30 or so PM's in my inbox, i had 5 morons asking me if so-and-so does bbfs...? WTF people?
Unreal, and i wonder how many of you have significant others, wives, etc. Now i dont give a rats ass if anyone see's a providers who has an wife or S.O., but bare back? Bringing something home to your family? Explain that to your little kids; Timmy and Mary....
"I'm sorry Timmy and Mary, but daddy is a comlete moron and gave mommy the clap and now mommy wants me to move out".

Good luck with that.

would want to take a risk like that?? It's one thing to go and have fun with your favorite providers, get buck wild and nasty....be my guest!!!!!! But bbfs????? It's totally not right, and leaves you susceptible to many things that you would have some serious explaining to do later!

Like the old commercials on BET....

"Just Wrap It Up"!!!

Play Safe!

Kisses!!

I agree BBFS is despicable behavior. If she's not afraid of using the glove in her practice, she should be outed immediately and reported to the health department and the police. Passing an STD to an unsuspecting/unwilling patron is a crime in some jurisdictions and she could be civilly liable at the least.

that from now on, anybody who even asks about bbfs for extra dollars will be told (after they leave) that the ladies will no longer do bb anything with them.  From then on it will be cbj by all ladies at MTA.

Also, for the guy that does not take the first no for an answer and totally ruins the mood by nagging and nagging about it, they are banned from using MTA again.

We have a ZERO tolerance policy for this.  So, if anybody out there is listening and this is what you are looking for, go elsewhere please!

To me, the SO/wife part isn't even part of the equation as I'm single. Still, if there's one thing that someone can do to completely screw up the hobby for everyone bbfs is it. Many things here are calculated risks, but bbfs is simply asking for trouble.

Something like what you described makes me want to hit my forehead on the wall a couple of dozen times as I remember again how stupid humanity really is...

BBFS is a taboo topic on TER, for obvious reasons. While I agree the topic does warrant discussion, please find a way to discuss this without reference to the acronym, BBFS.

Thanks

FT61

to report known individuals seeking this act to Admin? Folks who have sought it out have either had it, or will get it down the line, and thus are as dangerous as those would would physically harm a lady...perhaps more so, since their effects could potentially spread well beyond the lady and that one date.

I would think a simple forwarding of the PM would be adequate proof.

My good sense tells me that an individual who solicits for or who requests this type of service via TER will find themselves banned. TER has very little latitude for foolishness like this.

Forward to the Admin or to Sojourner7 or myself. We will forward the info to the Admins.

FT61

TER has our backs in situations like this.

Fortunately, the closest I have ever experienced to such a request is the oh so casual comment "I've been snipped" along with puppy eyes. Makes me laugh every time.

Hopefully Mr. Studd will take your advice, however.

Thanks again for the heads up!

This reminds me of the saying "Don't be a fool, wrap your tool!!!'

you only had 5 out of 30 ask?  imagine how many ask us for it.  welcome to our world lol

Asking a question, even on a taboo subject, is not enough.  Only a real threat or credible evidence of a threat would be enough for me to break confidentiality.  Just my .02.

You don't believe in calling out NCNS artists and now this.  Grow a spine!

If someone PMs me, it remains private.  Period.  That includes the PMs between us, which might refute your argument regarding spines . . .

Grow a pair. Pick any of the usual suspects. That's what he is telling you in no uncertain terms. Hobbyists and providers owe to the other to root bad seeds, even if it makes you uncomfortable. Ever here of Typhoid Mary?

Providers who allow uncovered full service, and the guys who specifically see them for this service....are huge in their numbers. It is SCARY! Oh and compile that with all the people who do not get tested for anything ever....it will almost make ya stop playing.

It amazes me how casually some hobbyist ask for the cover to be removed for the purposes of full service. I have been asked to not include the wrap just as calmly as I have been asked which cognac do I prefer.

With all the advances in the designs of condoms ie female condoms, XXL magnums, skyns....there is no excuse for not wrapping it up. I have heard the excuses from hobbyist: male condoms are very uncomfortable....they are all too small...I am allergic to latex.....I hate the feel of condoms....

My fix for all the excuses (valid excuses or not) was to invest in latex free female condoms. You would think that would eliminate the craziness? IT HAS NOT. Nor will it ever cut the maddness out. I still get asked to not cover MYSELF? WTF?


Why?

Because some people love to go against the grain of common sense and wisdom even to the detriment of their own health. They think by allowing this type of OUTRAGEOUSLY DANGEROUS behavior that their pockets will grow, or that they are the special man she is exclusively raw with....that logic takes the hobby = a fantasy to a whole other level.


Guys: If she is raw dogging with you, her 20 pages of stellar reviews means she is raw dogging hundreds of men.....who are raw dogging several other ladies of this exclusive club....eventually someone in that chain is going to spread much more than love.....explaining your drippy cock to your wife is not going to be a scene anyone wants to witness.

Ladies: Your pockets will severely decrease when you have to keep paying for Infectious Disease Doctor visits 100% out of pocket.

There is not a single piece of evidence that condoms can protect against all std's.....there also is not a single piece of evidence that condoms are not effective against AT LEAST SOME DISEASES....and pregnancy.....so lemme see here...I am already risking catching the std's that condoms cannot 100% protect me against....so let me add more risk to it by not using anything at all? Odds are not in my favor if that is my thinking.

I do NOT take risks of being outed, etc. over money.  I just don't.  That means if I'm NC/NS'd or ripped off -- both have happened, I accept it as a casualty of war.  
Nor do I breach a confidentiality if it's just some guy shooting his mouth off.  I am not the communication police.
But . . . and there are well-respected providers and hobbyists who will corroborate this . . . if I think someone's in danger I will try to do something about it.  All bets are off if it's a human being involved.  
And for crissake, would ANYONE sit still if they REALLY thought someone was speading STD?  I mean, really.
My last post on this.  Fire away.

I am a relative newbie, with a long term significant other.  One of the last comments reflected a fear of mine - that condoms do not protect from everything.  Even "just" herpes would significantly damage my life.  Does anyone know how much of a chance I am taking by seeking bbbj and bdaty?  I know that at least herpes can be transmitted with the "donor" being asymptomatic?  One of my friends said I was naive in thinking that any active provider did not have at least herpes.  Any comments would be welcome.

Guys, if you think you are "special," you are mistaken.  If you offer a lady extra for BBFS and she accepts saying she does not normally offer this or if a lady offers this to you telling you "she doesn't do this for everyone," you are delusional if you believe it.  Keep in mind that, besides HIV/Aids, there is a whole array of other STDs you can get.  Among them, herpes (which I hear hurts like hell) and syphillis, gonorhea, etc.

Even if you are single and have no one at home to worry about infecting, do you want to take the chance of catching something that may last a lot longer than those few minutes of pleasure.

We are all adults here.  Let's act like it and play safe!  For the guys who want the thrill of BB, in spite of the many reasons not too, I am sure there are some street corners in Chicago where its available.  But make sure you have your effects in order, your Will updated, as your life expectancy is probably pretty short.  

And for the guys who try the slip-n-slide, you can count on word getting out there amongst the ladies.  Yes, we do talk and work together to keep each other safe (and as a result the hobbyists also).

Still, see the link to recent thread about this very thing. There's a chart in one of the answers. The chart is quite amazing.

Thank you for stating the obvious and I mean that as a compliment in every way. No one wants to hear the obvious - sometimes it just needs to be put out there bluntly. Your post is intelligent, informative, and so damn true. YOUR post should make us think long and hard about the dangers.

I believe I owe you a compliment for the one you gave me a while back. You earned this compliment but I'm still evening the score, LOL.

So, I'd like to take this opportunity to ask everyone's opinion of using dental dams for DATY while you're on the subject.  

I recently bought a bunch, but everyone I show them to doesn't know what they are and hesitates and refuses to use them.  How can that be?  Anyways, after reading an article on incurable gonorrhea in the Chicago Flame for a science class I'm taking about microbes, I'm thinking about additional measures that will offer less risks.

Thank you.  the information was very helpful.