Guys who don't do any research.  At least use TER review search, google and tineye.  It only takes a few minutes.  If you don't know how, search "how to do your own research" on this board.

Men who don't want to give their prescreening and get upset when you politely inform them that a TER handle is not prescreening.  This is especially true when they have no reviews, no whitelisting and no board history.  Ladies need to feel safe.

Newbies who enter the board like a "bull in a china shop" knowing all the answers and telling seasoned hobbyists how things are done.  Better to wade in and get the temperature of the water and you'll find the seasoned hobbyists far more helpful.  This is true in almost every environment; new job, first time at a social gathering where you are new to the group, etc.

People who think this board is an episode of the Jerry Springer show.  We are all individuals, many with strong personalities.  We may not like each other.  Let's not air our dirty laundry here.  It actually makes everyone look bad.  Who wants or needs drama?  Watch talk shows for that!

1) What is it with the websites that have music on them?  It is one of the most idiotic things a provider/agency can do.  We're trying to research on the down-low and you blow our cover by putting stupid music on it?  Get rid of that shit.  I have my iPod for music Casey Kasem.

2) Providers that grossly lie about their age.  I'm sure you want to relive your 20's.  But, saying you are 25 and in reality, you are 47 is a BS tactic.  Plus, don't act shocked when the reviewer says you are older looking in the review.  I recall a provider who posted a blog about turning 40 a few years ago.  She looked more like the old lady in Titanic.  As Peter Griffin would say, "Stop it!"

3) Guys complaining about rates.  Please STFU!!  NO ONE is forcing you to see someone with a higher rate.  There are plenty of options available.  If you want to see a lady with a higher rate, simply save up.  Otherwise, keep making love to your hand or go see the mechanical AMP girls.

4) Laziness in general.  I've heard stories of guys calling w/o looking at a provider/agency website first.  The tour dates and rate info are in there Einstein.  Also, if a lady is on a tour in Florida today, why are you asking if she's available in Chicago today?  Are you blind or just calling to confirm your stupidity!

5) Don't go to an incall unless the appointment is confirmed.  I heard a story about an idiot that started to drive to the city, but the appointment was not confirmed.  Hell, the guy was not even verified yet.  Hey Magellan, Chicago is a huge town.  Where the hell are you going if the incall could be in O'hare, or downtown, or the burbs possibly!

6) Providers that start a session late but kick us out at the top of the hour.  That is wrong.  If I was there on time and you didn't let me in until 6:25pm, then the session should be over by 7:25 pm, not 7:00 pm.  Same thing for guys that show up late to an appointment.  Unless the lady/agency agreed to the full hour, you better assume your tardiness cost you some session time.  Also, just because you are the last appointment does not mean that extra time is available.

I hate when providers (or anyone else) cancel without notifying you.  I try very hard to schedule my appointments at least a couple of days in advance.  In the same manner if for whatever reason I have to cancel I usually give a minimum of 24-48 hours.  I can't stand when it is the day of your appointment and suddenly no one wants to answer their phone.  

Thankfully this has only happened to me once, but got it irritates me to no end.  There go my carefully laid plans, and if i still want my fun i have to scramble to find someone last minute.

Thanks for lettting me vent!!!

!. Guys who like to see women from other places, ie. asian, baltic, etc. and then complain about language barriers.  If you want to see foreign women, maybe you should speak a foreign language.  I have seen reviews where the lady suffered in the performance category simply because the client could not communicate with the provider.  That's bs.

2. Discretion
  a.  Ladies who I have given my RS2K info to who then send correspondence (voice mail, text, email) with my real name in it.  I don't create a separate account so that a provider can possibly expose me.  Don't leave a message saying "Hi Frank".  If I make a mistake and leave my hobby phone somewhere, it's hard to say it was a wrong number when the message was addressed to me.  
  b. Guys lack of discretion going to an appointment.  The stories I have heard.  Being loud or obnoxious going to the room.  Writing the ladies name and room number on an envelope full of money.  The list goes on and on.  Guys, bring a bag (laptop, gym bag, etc.).  Be discrete, but act like you are supposed to be there.  It's ok to act natural and say hi to the hotel staff.  If you look like you are trying to hide something, you usually are.  If you raise to much suspicion while going to the appointment and the hotel calls, LE, it could actually be the next guy after you left who walks right into it.  

3. Old photos.  Need I say more.  

4.  Guys, have a hobby phone and create a separate email account.  How many times do we have to hear about a wife or workplace discovering what's going on?

Saying that all your information is on your website, but you don't keep it up to date.  As well, trying to guess where you are located.

Finally, pricing that is more complicated than an airline.  I will go to Denny's if I want to build a combo platter.  Price incall or out, premium option or not and leave it at that.  GFE, GFE Plus, VIP Pornstar, PSE, without telling clearly what that shit means is crazy.

I hate to bring up a specific provider's website but I have to when it comes point number one for CTP's list. Victoria Jolie's website is the biggest offender of this. I tried to watch a video but the damn music won't turn off from the site. So I cant watch the video when the audio from the video and the music from the site is going on at the same time. Please fix this issue or just get rid of the music that plays on the site. Otherwise it's a great site and I would love to see her.

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I don't mind last minute appointments at all and I can usually make it work but when a guy calls from the North Pole somewhere and wants the girl to be there in like 30 minutes is that just not wrong?
I'm good but I can't work miracles and especially in rush hour traffic.

So then you tell him the girl needs a least an hour maybe a little more time, he agrees, says fine, then 30 min later he calling to cancel and says the timing won't work after all, he needs to reschedule!
Give me a break, you know how I feel calling the girl and telling her I'm sorry honey he canceled?
after I rush her out of the house like a screaming banchee, she jumps in her car speeding to get there, she is half way there, has the room already booked and you cancel!!

When you book the room on one of these internet places like Hotwire and such, its like pulling teeth to get a refund and if you don't pay the extra 10 bucks then its impossible!
I know there are times when all of a sudden you find yourself with some free time and the little head talks to you but try and think about what it takes to make that happen!

It can happen same day, last minute, if you are willing to work with it , even if you'd like to see a certain lady it may work if she is working that day.
If it doesn't work and that certain person you wanted to see is not available at that exact time then don't blame us if you can't plan ahead.

I've had men who are stood up, nc/ns and call me to see if I can accomodate them and I do most of the time, if they are willing to see the girl who is available in that neighborhood but if you are looking to see a certain lady, then you have to give at least 90 min to 2 hrs for her to bk a room then get there, but even if you have a room, just to get there, Chicago is a big place with many suburbs and the girl is not always sitting in your backyard waiting for you to call 24-7!!
Also if that does happen, I think if the girl does not get a refund from hotel then she should be reimbursed for it from the one who canceled.

Many good, and valid points, apropo.

My laundry list of complaints?

* If you confirm with me in the morning for an early afternoon appointment, be on time.  I have to go to work and I need time after we meet to get the smell of perfume off before going to my last job site or even worse, home.  If you are late, then I don't have the time I want to clean up.  

* You are being paid to lie to me, do so credibly!  Saying you are 21 and you look older than I am is not credible.  I realize that age is something women lie about, that's fine, if you are 24 and say you are 21, at least it is believable!

* Keep your eyes off the clock!  I refuse to hobby in Wisconsin because the girls up there are all jerks (fine, not all of them, but every one of them I have ever seen has been).  If you are worried about the time, put your phone on low and have a friend call you at the end of an hour, or whatever the time frame is.  It's subtle, it reminds you, and you can stop checking the clock out.

*  If I say it's okay to do XYZ (ie, if we are in a smoking room, and I notice you are a smoker, and say go ahead and smoke while I recharge, or whatever) don't argue with me.  Do it, or don't do it.



As for music on websites, dang...flash back to the early 1990s!  People still do that????

have reviews and if she doesn't, they don't want to see her cause she doesn't have any, even if she is new!
After all that they refuse to write reviews for different reasons and none make sense to me.
If you want reviews why not write them and offer something to the community which we all enjoy.

calling yourself a porn star just because someone held a $100 camera from Best Buy and recorded you having sex and then posting it on the internet does not qualify you as a porn star. if these gal's were true porn stars, why would thier rates always be between 300-350? Please, and then i cant believe guys actually believe these gals are porn stars. Unless you're Sasha Grey or Katie Morgan...you're not a porn star.

Ladies that do not include pricing in their ads.  If you're $800/hr I won't be seeing you, so I don't want to have to call you to tell you sorry, you're too expensive. It's awkward and embarassing for all involved.

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I just move on to the next one.  I make a blanket assumption that the ad is nothing more than a B & S.  And if I really have too much time on my hands and do a TER search...voila...no reviews for said lady.  Enough said!!

I'm not pissed about anything. I'm happy, WTF is wrong with me?

Ladies, if the cootchie smells like a carcass, see a doctor and get it cured before you see one more client.

apropo, if its an agency girl, there's a moderate level of assurance (in all states but Wisconsin anyway) of ensuring a professional experience...well, with the MAJOR agencies anyway.  So no, I would be happy to try a rookie under those circumstances.

If it's an independant, I'm looking for happy clients.  Not to many, but enough. (Yea, figure that number out....I'm still working it out myself!)  I'm not a TOFTT guy, but I also realize that new girls enter the field and some leave...


As for the other poster, oh yea, I hear ya.  If there's no price-tag in the advertisement, I'm assuming the lady wants $1200/hr.  My price range is substantially less than that, but that's okay, because my standards are significantly less than my price range, as well!

Amen to your statement in (#6!!)   So true and agreed!  


and LMFAO to the guy driving to the city not knowing where to go (5) and thinking there is an appointment.  It is always a great policy to keep in touch with any appointment you have IN LIFE and confirm them.

(4)  I am from LA... yeah I have gotten those silly questions too!  I know and many ladies here have spent the time to provide as much information as they can to any potential client.  If they aren't in the city YOU CAN make arraignments..... you know fly them in and comp their time for doing so.  I myself sometimes have residual postings from different ads that repost when I am gone.  Many gents don't know that the ads sometimes last longer than for when we are there.  Nothing personal!  

Great topic!

before a session. The smell is a total turn off. Wiping with a tissue will not get the smell off, it needs to be washed with soap and water.

So ladies after you are showered and ready for the session, please don't take that last pee. If you have to, then please wash after.

Sorry, a lady SHOULD make sure her bladder is ready for an appt. However you are right @ tissues not being enough. I keep baby wipes ALWAYS! Not only does it eliminate odor bit you won't get those embarrassing little TP bits either.

Also I use them between cups of coffee unless the client wants to shower together (wink).

Good point!

Xoxo
VC

is that most of the ladies who has this problem do not know it.  So please ladies, once in a while ask somebody you trust to check it out for you and do not get mad if he/she told you something you did not lexpect.

I haven't any prices on my site cause I was told by my lawyer it would be best if I did not post prices because if something ever did happen it would be better for me in court but on the other hand I post prices her eon TER and in reviews.
Guess I'm not the average agency and never have or will be.
The reviews and my repuation speaks for itself. If you don't see a girl on my site just cause there is no price in her ad then its your loss.
The girls prices are 350 or 400 depends which lady but then I offer specials that I list here also.
Plus I don't mind men asking the price on phones/email like most seem to and I also don't mind haggling I get a kick out of it, lol, guess I'm really old school.
Still don't lappreciate guys who won't write reviews but expcet them before they see a lady.
There seem to be quite a few here that have enough time to post and are not afraid of being "found out" posting  but not enough time for writing a review or afraid of being found out writing them.

I don't mind seeing a newer girl or one without reviews on the condition she is recommended by a well reviewed girl...but here's the rub, which one of you ladies are going to recommend the competition?

As for advertising pron star, I think it's more a mindset and less of a professional DVD that qualifies porn star... IMHO.

that comment!
There are many ladies who reccommend other laidies even here on the board in posts!
If you had bothered to look at my site you would see that I have a few indies on my site also!
its like I said experience is the best teacher so looks like you have some lessons coming your way!
I have reccommended other ladies if they have what the guy wants plus if I can't fill his itch I also give him other agencies to call.

wSince you have so much to post about and also talk about the girls you have seen where are your reviews?

Well, yes, I would expect an agency to make recommendations, likewise a lady of refinement who is leaving the industry or cutting down, perhaps.  And yes, ladies on this board may make recommendations on whom to see if you are looking for something special (someone who lives close to where you are headed, perhaps.)

I was more referring to an independant who was working in the area you are looking.  I rarely see people who work at McDonalds recommending clients go to Burger King, even though the food is similar, but one may have the twist a client may want.  It was that, to which I was referring too.

As for my reviews, I have seen three women so far, two I have not liked, even though they were highly reviewed.  Instead of slamming them with a poor review, and realizing my tastes may be quite different than someone else, I choose not to leave a review.  There was one I adored, and when I asked her if I could review her, I received a luke-warm reply which I took to mean she did not feel comfortable either being asked if I could leave her a review, worried what my review may say or not say, or plain did not care.  As I will be seeing her again, eventually (before Memorial Day for sure) and if the experience is as divine as last time, she will get a review anyway.

However, if you would like to PM me, I would be happy to give you a list of the demographics, availability and desires I am looking for in a repeat companion.  I am quite sure you would have someone who would match.  I have, after all, been to your site numerous times, but have quietly demurred in favor of someone else from the T.E.R. search engine.

In regards to price, I just assume an unlisted price is unaffordable.  It is probably a HORRIBLE assumption on my part, but it is what I do.  I think that is because, honestly, the ladies I have enjoyed my time with seem to underbill their services, and if they billed their services at a level I think would be appropriate, then I could not afford to spend time with them!

Anyway, I am in the market for another companion to see on a semi-regular basis, I will post as such above to see if one can be recommended to me, should I get the nerve to do so!  The search engine just returns way too many choices and I have to keep narrowing it down and hoping not to cut someone out of the list that would be ideal just to have a chance to really go through and look at who is available.


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I have gotten the impression that the girls are running and business and business does not normally recommend their direct competitors.

Further, that if you do not have something nice to say, do not say anything at all.  Hence, two girls have not gotten reviews from me because I did not enjoy my time. (And they had decent ratings from other members, why post something negative when it could very well have just been my fault?)

Lastly, I will post positive reviews when the girls I am with give me permission to do so, or when my experience has reached my pleasure threshhold and I just cannot keep it to myself anymore.

I hope that is okay, Apropo.  I meant no disrespect to you or any of the ladies, I based my unprofessional opinion on standard business practices I have encountered in my lines of work (yes, plural.)

providers that take your apointment and when you arrive and call them, they either do not answer or turn you down, specially after you've spent 30 plus minutes in traffic. THATS JUST RUDE.

Ladies, we know what time we entered the apartment/hotel room/house. Don't have the clock on your nightstand set 10 minutes ahead. When you come to our place, we don't have the clocks set back 10 minutes to try to "steal" extra time with you. Do us the courtesy of not pressuring us to pack up and leave prior to the end of the session by having the clock set ahead. Trust us, it just makes you look petty.

When guys don't post reviews when they have a bad, or just less-than-stellar session. ESPECIALLY when they're too much of a p***y or WK cause they don't want to "hurt her feelings".

One or two "poor" reviews will not ruin a ladies reputation. IMHO, on the contrary, the truly fine ladies will see the below average review, see why it occured, and if it's something on her part make the adjustments so future sessions will not experience the issue that occured.

How are us fellow hobbyists supposed to get a true picture of what the lady is like?? Just post the review so we are all informed of the FULL story. You don't have to be a jerk and be all nasty about it, just post a polite, but truthful review of your experience.

Also, as a side note, a 7 or 8 is NOT a "bad" review. I've been very happy with many of the ladies I've seen that are in that range.

My biggest pet peeves as related to the hobby:

Outdated photos and/or misrepresenting age/body type. C'mon! Hobbyists are paying good money to be with a lady, it's only fair that if they do the research, they know what they're paying for. If you think you're test driving a 2010 Benz in excellent condition, it better not be a 2005 with a missing bumper when you show up to the dealership. Plenty of guys are probably after a more mature or heavier provider, but let them make the choice!

Lack of punctuality. Many, if not most guys need to find specific times to hobby so that they have cover stories for their significant other, so 5:30 should mean 5:30. It's much easier to hide that JFL on your face if you get home in time for dinner!

As related to the boards:

False reviews. You got a bbbj, multiple pops, and greek at that $200 KMP? Really??

Witholding less than stellar reviews. Don't give into the pressure or some misguided sense of chivalry, otherwise this website should be renamed The Greek Chorus.

Drama - 'nuff said!