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I appreciate all of your great input!  It is very helpful.  I'm glad to see that others have formed friendships here as well.  I feel a lot better now that I know I'm not delusional :-)  Thank you!

This question is for the ladies.  This is related to a little bit of an argument I've been having with a board friend who feels that I am delusional.

So here is my question - have you ever made real friendships doing this?  Have you ever connected with a client and formed a friendship that went beyond the client / provider relationship and lasted even after the client / provider relationship ended?  

I feel like I've created some strong friendships doing this over the years.  And even though I have now stepped away, my friends are still my friends.  My board friend feels that I'm delusional, there are no real friendships here, and that everybody is just positioning for my eventual return.

So - guys, call me a mangina if you must - I will not deny it, but I don't think I'm delusional.  I think that real friendships can and do exist in this world.

Ladies - what do you think?  Have you ever formed a friendship with a client that went beyond the fantasy?  

I know that the discussion of "crossing the line" from client / provider to bf / gf has been discussed ad nauseam.  That's not what I'm talking about here - I'm talking about friendships that form and that last beyond the hobby.

What we do here, regardless of the transaction that happens, is intimate.  I've gotten to know clients very well, as have other ladies that i know personally.  I'd consider a current client I have to be more of a friend-type, and should we ever part ways in the hobby, I would hope that we would remain friends.  

Your thinking isn't delusional, at least not from my perspective.  I could see if I was faking my interactions with clients, but I'm not.  I'm genuine.  My clients are some of the most genuine people I've ever met.  To think that friendships don't happen seems to be the more oddball scenario, at least in my mind.  

Everyone is going to have a different perspective on this, of course; some relationships are transient, and some are more permanent.  It all depends on the dynamic.

We haven't had an appointment in 3 years (or done anything non-appointment) but we talk on a weekly basis . . . We are real friends . . . don't even talk about the hobby or anything related to it . . . so yes, friendships to form that last way beyond the hobby.

That is awesome. I hope I can meet some folks who I can have that kind of relationship with. I speak a lot with Ms Jones, another provider, but it'd be nice if I could have something similar with some clients.

 
Not nookie type convos, but talking about intellectual stuffs.

3 years....

My client and friend "high@tight' we were freinds spoke on the phone several times a week. etc
Anothe man who I seen recently here and in Vegas I have a couple hobby friends.  Another whom I met recently is my friend and sugar daddy.  I have another sugar daddy who doesn't even know I'm in the business.  There are alot of men who don't hobby.

Posted By: cosmicangst
This question is for the ladies.  This is related to a little bit of an argument I've been having with a board friend who feels that I am delusional.  
   
 So here is my question - have you ever made real friendships doing this?  Have you ever connected with a client and formed a friendship that went beyond the client / provider relationship and lasted even after the client / provider relationship ended?  
   
 I feel like I've created some strong friendships doing this over the years.  And even though I have now stepped away, my friends are still my friends.  My board friend feels that I'm delusional, there are no real friendships here, and that everybody is just positioning for my eventual return.  
   
 So - guys, call me a mangina if you must - I will not deny it, but I don't think I'm delusional.  I think that real friendships can and do exist in this world.  
   
 Ladies - what do you think?  Have you ever formed a friendship with a client that went beyond the fantasy?    
   
 I know that the discussion of "crossing the line" from client / provider to bf / gf has been discussed ad nauseam.  That's not what I'm talking about here - I'm talking about friendships that form and that last beyond the hobby.

It could work over time.

I have a client I consider a friend however we still do meet for appointments from time to time.

I have an other client that I email sporadically as well.

I had club patrons that I would socialize with outside of work but I most admit I never had a client from this business that just became a platonic friend.

Your friend sounds somewhat cynical, but I haven't been around long enough to make a seasoned opinion. I had to learn to check my feelings at the door and treat this as pure fantasy. I've been fortunate enough to see some outstanding women who flawlessly create the illusion of emotional intimacy and closeness when we're together, but I don't delude myself into thinking it's anything else. I'm not implying that they don't actually like me on a real and personal level, but given the business that they're in, and the pitfalls they face by engaging in such intimate contact with relative strangers, it seems they would need to put up an impenetrable barrier between their personal lives, and their professional personas. However, since you're now retired from this endeavor, maybe there are no obstacles to a real-life friendship with one or more of your former fantasy providers. Only time will tell.

Don't mind if I say that your board friend is a bit skeptical.
No one other person ever knows everything about anything.
And I have established MANY friendships.  
Not very many people last for the long haul in this industry and it makes sense that when you open up to others in an honest way, you'll create something real.
Tell your friend to stop being so shallow:-)
Xo's

Friends are hard to come by especially in this line of biz but I've made a lot of them though out the 2yrs... Some of the best friendship situations, they have been there for me more in friend then some of the chicago friends I've made in the Civie life...  When there's a connection, it's the icing on the cake!!! I ❤️💖💛💚💜💙 my ATFS & I have many!!!

enjoyment and relaxation!  People attach so many bad things to this industry and I have met some guys I won't ever see again. But I have many clients that I like very much and put a smile on my face when they reach out to me. I look forward to visiting with them.  There are normal, stable guys out there!!

I am busy in my personal life but hear from many clients I see via text and email to say HI etc..

I appreciate all of your great input!  It is very helpful.  I'm glad to see that others have formed friendships here as well.  I feel a lot better now that I know I'm not delusional :-)  Thank you!

The best place to ask for advice about sincerity and friendships.

Maybe you should ask yourself why a board "friend" would be so insensitive as to call you delusional.  Do you feel delusional?

It's probably time to do inventory and find out what you are in need of and what you have too much of in your life...

XXX-Giselle Parker

Posted By: cosmicangst
This question is for the ladies.  This is related to a little bit of an argument I've been having with a board friend who feels that I am delusional.  
   
 So here is my question - have you ever made real friendships doing this?  Have you ever connected with a client and formed a friendship that went beyond the client / provider relationship and lasted even after the client / provider relationship ended?  
   
 I feel like I've created some strong friendships doing this over the years.  And even though I have now stepped away, my friends are still my friends.  My board friend feels that I'm delusional, there are no real friendships here, and that everybody is just positioning for my eventual return.  
   
 So - guys, call me a mangina if you must - I will not deny it, but I don't think I'm delusional.  I think that real friendships can and do exist in this world.  
   
 Ladies - what do you think?  Have you ever formed a friendship with a client that went beyond the fantasy?    
   
 I know that the discussion of "crossing the line" from client / provider to bf / gf has been discussed ad nauseam.  That's not what I'm talking about here - I'm talking about friendships that form and that last beyond the hobby.
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I see your point, but still, I was interested in seeing how the community would respond to the question.

He's not so much a "friend" as an acquaintance.  And no, I don't feel delusional at all.  Confused is maybe a better word.  Voices whispering in my ear - that's what I have too much of.

And I think I pretty much know what I need.  I'm not really sure how to get it, but I'm working on it.  

- Cosmic

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Some have come and gone, others have stayed through the long haul and I know and they know me very very well.  I still talk to many that I have not seen in years, not regularly but still check in just to make sure they are ok and see how they are doing.  It is not a ploy to get an appt or to try to initiate one just a way to say hi and make sure he is still ok.  Same with ladies, I have seen many come and go, some I still talk with even years and years after they have retired.  

Anyway, I don't think it matters where you find a friend or in what context the friendship starts but if they are a true friend then the friendship will continue.  You can gage if it is still a healthy relationship or not by the give and take, which should always be pretty even and never be allowed to go very uneven ever or one or the other is being used which is no longer friendship

Hugs, and I hope you are ok with me touching bases with you from time to time to make sure you are ok.  We have known each other a long time and well, I always want you to find the healthy relationships in life...  Hugs, Sage

Thanks Sage!  Yeah, for sure - it is definitely OK to touch base with me from time to time. It is always nice to hear from a friend :-)  

Posted By: Sage of Chicago
Some have come and gone, others have stayed through the long haul and I know and they know me very very well.  I still talk to many that I have not seen in years, not regularly but still check in just to make sure they are ok and see how they are doing.  It is not a ploy to get an appt or to try to initiate one just a way to say hi and make sure he is still ok.  Same with ladies, I have seen many come and go, some I still talk with even years and years after they have retired.    
   
 Anyway, I don't think it matters where you find a friend or in what context the friendship starts but if they are a true friend then the friendship will continue.  You can gauge if it is still a healthy relationship or not by the give and take, which should always be pretty even and never be allowed to go very uneven ever or one or the other is being used which is no longer friendship  
   
 Hugs, and I hope you are ok with me touching bases with you from time to time to make sure you are ok.  We have known each other a long time and well, I always want you to find the healthy relationships in life...  Hugs, Sage

i am proud to call some of these beautiful ladies my friend and also my lover..

If you are always the one to initiate the contact when 'keeping in touch' then you don't have a friend. You have someone  you *want* to be friends with who will respond when contacted.  
Being friendly doesn't make you friends. It's about two people who both reach out, even if it's from time to time

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