If I cancel at the last moment, and I think this has happened only once, I will send a E-gift card to the providers e-mail address in an effort to show I care, take responsibility, and hopefully offer some form of compensation.
I also do so with my those provider's which I have a standing relationship, even if I cancel a few days out. Again, I do not make a habit of it (canceling appointments). I have never had any lady not appreciate the gesture. Now one thing that we can all agree on is no one can control Air Traffic Control at O'Hare. When I fly through there and have an appointment set up in Chicagoland same day I land, I ALWAYS let the provider know what COULD happen. Most understand and agree. I also go out of my way to text flight status at the departure city, and when I land. Finally, I have had two providers bail on me at the last moment with zero compensation or any offers there of. I also had one in Charlotte last December that was 2 hours late and incredibly drunk. I do not post in a review for fear of black listing. I vote with my dollars and never see them againI think it is kinda funny
How when a providers posts about a NCNS, most providers reply is to blacklist the guy, right away no questions ask.
But when a guy posts about a NCNS on a provider, most providers reply, she may have had an emergency, give the lady a break she may have had a bad day.
What is it us guys can't have an emergency or a bad day? Does this only apply to providers?
I have read post of guy getting blacklisted, because they had to go the hospital because one of his kids broke a leg.
and the provider still blacklisted the guy. I think he had a really good reason not to make the appointment.
Then there is this post: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=196951&boardID=10&page=1#196951
The provider cancels the date at the door granted she said her allergies were acting up, but couldn't let the guy know until he showed up for the appointment. This is after the guy took a day off, drove to see her, might have had to pay for parking. She didn't even seem to care that he had to do all this. Now if the guy outed the lady for this, how much shit would he have got for doing that.
Now I know that some will come back saying time is money and provider loses money when a guy pulls a NCNS, but don't forget guys lose money to, time off of work, parking in some cases. What about having to fight traffic for an hour or so to get to the place.
None of that stuff is free, it all has a cost.
I think the only why I think to stop this from happening is for the guy to do what providers do, have a cancellation policy in our emails, If the provider cancel the appointment within a X amount of hours before the appointment they will have to pay the gentlemen a fee.
(Granted in a perfect world this would be great, but lets face it if you did put a policy like that in your email, you will never see a provider again.)
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
Your thoughts?
I would simply refuse to see a guy who was that oblivious. Here is the bottom line and before I start, let me say that I do understand the guy's side which is why in 8 years or so, I have canceled or been late for less than a handful of dates. But, this is your HOBBY and our business. All that shit you talked about having to go through is what you CHOOSE to go through for a piece of ass. When we cancel on you, you actually SAVE money because you were already set on spending x amount to fk a hooker. Now, when a guy cancels on us, we LOSE money... it's that simple.
I require a deposit unless I am touring, so I don't really worry about cancelations. I will never post about a NCNS because I find such threads to be rather comical and I am not much for whining. I think it's something that should be taken care of in private with the person in question unless it's excessive in which case it is customary to warn others about such behavior.
So, all that said... I am afraid you chose to put yourself and your finances/family through all the obstacles you listed for a piece of ass... we are not exactly curing cancer here.
I'm sure it's simple...but I honestly can't wrap my head around that concept.
I require a deposit unless I am touring, so I don't really worry about cancelations. I will never post about a NCNS because I find such threads to be rather comical and I am not much for whining. I think it's something that should be taken care of in private with the person in question unless it's excessive in which case it is customary to warn others about such behavior.
So, all that said... I am afraid you chose to put yourself and your finances/family through all the obstacles you listed for a piece of ass... we are not exactly curing cancer here.
You're the one good at Math lol... add it up.
And slowly...please 
but LR"s math escapes me too.
My time is at least as valuable as the time of any hooker, so if I spend two hours getting the run around from some flaky hooker too lazy to send a text or email letting me know why she has to flake on me, then yes I have lost MORE in MY valuable time than you, ESPECIALLY you, as everybody knows you don't really work anyhow. lol
Not to mention that you are the one who brags that she can live on next to nothing, so your time really is worth a LOT less than mine as I spend money almost as fast as the rich and successful Bob Sugar, so I NEED to spend those hours working to pay for all my bad habits.
Do you recommend these?
That is exactly correct. LR's logic is absurd. It's all about the value of an individual's time. We happen to live in a market economy, and if a client who can afford to pay top-end rates most likely earns far more than a provider and, of course, is "out" a lot more money.
Most of us can agree NCNS is a problem for BOTH hookers and johns alike. but for hookers to claim that they are the more seriously aggrieved party is ridiculous and actually acerbates the situation as rather that trying to put a stop to NCNS on both sides, we get dragged into pointless arguments about which "side" is the biggest offender.
Kindly explain how he is 'out a lot of money' if she cancels and he did not spend it? My logic is absurd... you just proved my damn point. If I am prepared to spend 300 on some blow and the dealer is out sick, I just SAVED that money and he lost it. Wow... common sense is such a beautiful thing.
Gambler, even as stubborn as you are (still my bitch lol) you have to concede that if you are all set to blow 400 bucks and the girl cancels, you still HAVE that money. Now, let's flip this shall we... provider goes out and pays 200 on the low end for a hotel, buys food, pays a sitter, and turns away other appointments that would have likely shown up (stupid I know), and guy cancels. Who is out more money here? Why do I have to spell this shit out. It's not about who is more important or who is more annoyed... that's obvious. I would never go into a restaurant and think because I could afford the meal that the waitress was not the one who would be fked if I did not leave a tip... that is what many are making this shit out to be, and it's retarded.
You're not here to work, pay to put a roof over anyone's head, etc. Many providers are, and it's their only source of income. Do I think it's wise to work that way in this business? No, but I also don't discredit that as a reality for many. To say that you being blown off and not getting your d*ck sucked that day yet keeping the fee in your pocket has the same effect of a provider not being able to pay rent, is ABSURD. This is not a need.. it's a want. I guarantee if you had a child with an illness that took all your hobby money, you would CHOOSE to save that child and pay the doctor before paying a hooker. Nuff said.
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Not if you still want the blow, but now you are out $500 worth of time and still want to spend the same $300 on blow. Your time is still your time. if your time is worth $500 hr and some one wastes 2 hours of it, you are out a thousand bucks worth of your time. How hard is that to grasp?
and haven't we had enough of this "us vs them" bullshit already? but it you are going to claim that your time is worth more than my time, then we are NEVER going to agree.
Drug addicts generally weigh a lot less, hon. Just sayin. I have random drug tests, but sure I did party during my undergrad years.
Guys "saving money" when a gal cancels. Whatever.
Kinda like a drug dealer who says "well, they chose to buy skag, not my fault they got addicted and ruined their life." Without us choosing to do this you'd be out of a job.
We're all in this pretty equally and the lack of common accountability of some people is sometimes frightening.
You obviously missed the very first line of my post which said I am not excusing anyone for acting unprofessionally, but to act as if you lose as much as the provider is comical. FYI, if not for your lack of self control, there would be no need for hookers in the first place. This is not the only job most of us get paid for, thank goodness. Every time ANY provider posts truth that you don't agree with, it's the 'jaded hooker' or 'poor attitude' card. Surely, you can do better than that. I have never wasted anyone's time or been unprofessional, regardless of what my post pointed out. I can assure you, there is a reason I have regulars and don't 'have to' work every damn day or even every week.
We're all in this pretty equally and the lack of common accountability of some people is sometimes frightening.
Get fkin real, and stop projecting. If your d*ck was not ruling you instead of the other way around, you'd just buy a damn puppy for companionship. "Low opinion of my customers? " LMAO. My customers (I prefer to call them friends) do not come on here and post the naive bullshit you are trying to spew. They damn well admit they are sexual beasts who just plain need it and will do just about anything to get it... sounds like you are the one who has not come to terms with your own reasons for being here, but I am not a shrink so I can't help you. FYI, I don't sit here and market myself as some sexual healer or courtesan, either honey. I get paid to fk and then to leave... no problems at all admitting that. You're insecure... that sucks.
I'm here to do business with people who don't show contempt for the fact that I'm here to do business with them.
You refuse to see this is all about the value of people's time
Stop blaming the world for your choices, and get over it already. Guess what... I have never posted some 'poor me' NCNS thread when it comes to NCNS, because I don't deal with it. I have also never blacklisted a guy for not showing up or paying some lame cancelation fee after the fact. I do however keep it real, and if you choose to take part in this illegal business, you get what comes with it... um, so do we. You are not the one here trying to make money to feed your kids, are you? Many providers are, so gimme a fkin break with the cry me a river broken record. If your time is sooooo valuable as is your money, why spend it on ass? Just curious. I spend my money on dumb shit too, but guess what... you don't see me bitching about it, either.
It's unfortunate, no trust on bad side of the hobby in this city. The market is so bad for me I will have to travel or fly in ladies out of state to get quality service. Both side loses money, I understand that, but both side have some reasonable understanding, especially ladies side, that's events, happens, especially in this fast pace environment we live in. Based on the story above, if I get hit by a car before an appointment, I will get blacklisted, anyway, smh. Come on and unfortunately for us clients if we get blacklisted by one provider, you get blacklisted by most others, smh. The entire blacklist is a troublesome issue for the hobby, especially in this city, where there is small amount of quality ladies located here.
Called as requested to advise that I was on my way, traveling from far west Suburb to Arlington Heights. Had to make arrangements and such to make the appointment. Made the call and was told the hotel and to call from parking lot. Got to parking lot and was told that she and her friend had to step out and will be back in 15 minutes which turned into an hour before I called again and was told that it would be at least another hour. I gave up as my window of opportunity was closing.
I made the mistake of not posting her name, but next time it happens I will post the name of anyone who does this as it is unprofessional.
That is totally unprofessional, and yes... damn right she should be held accountable for such behavior. That was never my issue... it was the contradictions of some. 1. If time is such a valuable thing, why waste it on a luxury item, then bitch about the very things we signed up for? It's really that simple. NEVER will a nut be more valuable than a mother working to feed her child.... NEVER. I am not saying that is the case for every provider here, but to act like this is something other than what it is, makes me chuckle.
In previous posts, we are all just dumb whores who should say 'how high' when a new client says jump, but now all of a sudden we have guys trying to say what they are seeking is soooooo valuable lol. I mean which is it? If you're not here looking for a GF or a wife, you're looking for a nut. It's that simple and no one cares either way.... pretty sure we are all aware that guys will pay for sex which is why we have a price tag on our ass. Why get offended at someone pointing out the obvious? Guys want sex and are willing to pay, girls on TER are willing to give them EXACTLY what they want lol. This is a great business and I have been fortunate to spend time with the exact type of man I and my posts attract lol... the ones who are not deluded and don't cry every time some hooker with an opinion posts something they don't like.
It was never an 'us against them' type of thing, until the butt hurt crowd had to chime in with the "you have an attitude' bs. No, we don't have an attitude... we just prefer to keep the shit real. It's ok for guys to use us for sex, and not ok for us to use them for money? Um, okey dokey. I did not know feelings could be hurt when they were not supposed to be at play in the first place, but I digress.
Nothing very complicated. It's just that one party did not live up to the terms of the deal and the other is upset and venting. In this case the OP is a guy and other cases the OP was a girl. Same shit different gender
Unfortunately in this life, we have billions of people running around making new choices due to the choices of others.
But can anyone say, "that's not fair" and really gain anything? Make the best of the unfair things that happen in this life, and make choices to avoid the risk in the future.
Lots of finger pointing going on here. In reality, everybody fucks up, and a lot more people fuck up even worse after someone fucked up on them.
But a lot of people also don't fuck up after someone else is unfair to them. Youre going to drive yourself nuts trying to figure out a common pattern mankind has practiced for years. Everyone deals with things differently, and everyone is learning. No one knows the perfect solution for every obstacle that comes their way every time one comes. Hooker, John, CEO, mother, boss, pastor, friend.
Avoid the risk in the future, and the RO board I'm sure is full of resources to avoid that stuff. I promise you one thing - it isn't something that can be solved or made fair in the least bit until all this is legalized and we have an HR department. Oh, and then there are politics. Nevermind lol.
One thing I can say, is just live yo life - heyyyy heyyyy heyyyy... (Rihanna)
P.S. Bitterness will only blind us to the mistakes and consequential choices we are making to other people in our lives. If we keep thinking about how "that person was unfair to me," pointing fingers, how will we go on seeing clearly in the good choices we make for our futures and others' futures?
Makes for a bitter, not so happy life in the future.
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If I cancel at the last moment, and I think this has happened only once, I will send a E-gift card to the providers e-mail address in an effort to show I care, take responsibility, and hopefully offer some form of compensation.
I also do so with my those provider's which I have a standing relationship, even if I cancel a few days out. Again, I do not make a habit of it (canceling appointments). I have never had any lady not appreciate the gesture.
Now one thing that we can all agree on is no one can control Air Traffic Control at O'Hare. When I fly through there and have an appointment set up in Chicagoland same day I land, I ALWAYS let the provider know what COULD happen. Most understand and agree. I also go out of my way to text flight status at the departure city, and when I land.
Finally, I have had two providers bail on me at the last moment with zero compensation or any offers there of. I also had one in Charlotte last December that was 2 hours late and incredibly drunk. I do not post in a review for fear of black listing. I vote with my dollars and never see them again