How hobbyists with long-term reputations can play games, screw over a provider, and go on their merry way without feeling guilty. I confess to being immoral but at least I have ethics and I sure wouldn't want to risk ripping off a provider to get my jollies. The really good women here give us a long rope with which to hang ourselves and some even give us the benefit of the doubt when we make an honest mistake. But there are limits to what even the nicest women will put up with... something to think about before you take advantage of someone.

I would NEVER EVER Rip-Off my current Provider. She treats me very Well and is so Adorable. Could I take Advantage of her by paying less? Oh Heck Yeah and she would let me. Her Regular Clientele Sessions have been very Slow in the last few months. Other than a handful of her long time Regulars, I've been the only one seeing her on a steady basis. There is no way on earth would I ever rip her off by paying a lower Donation Price. I always pay her what's right. I could not Live with myself if I Ripped Off my Provider.

It's about NO donation and no attempt to make it right. Time is running short...

Well... If I am getting this correct, no donation is being given for the time spent with each other.... That this has happened a couple times. If this is the case, it sounds as if the provider is thinking, or hoping, that it is now a relationship with this client. That is what it sounds like to me. If that is the case, no donation should be given if both client and provider agree. It can and has happened where a client and provider have a relationship beyond the "agreed terms of provider/client".

I'm glad you posted this but it brings back 2 sad memories. A few yrs ago after 2 hrs he was questioned by other hobbyists publically but he vanished and the second guy owed much more
sad but true a M&G guest of someone elses and still around and well liked no matter his wrongdoings. Did something happen to someone else now?  

If you're talking about a specific hobbyist and a specific incident, then why don't you just contact him directly and badger him to make things right?  Or else expose him by name and let the community loose on him.  Otherwise the majority of us have no idea who or what you're referring to.

It would really be nice to provide that information to the board...

you can only be taken advantage of if you allow it. No guy is going to do something you don't let him do here, unless it's a case of rape, robbery, etc. all of which can be 99 percent avoided through strict screening, not booking last minute, and maybe requiring a deposit. Now, if you mean some ass hat that saw a provider just to bash her in a review for his ATF, then yea...beat his ass!  

Who were you addressing? Me or the O.P? I have no problem with one board handle if in fact you were addressing me . The other has no TER ID he is 2K and oh so adored the fuck that he is ha ha!
I am not the only lady who blacklisted him someone else did too which I recently found out about. The host of the shin dig knows what happened, he could care less but then again I consider the mentality of the source where common sense makes sense but... there isn't any so ... nuff said.
But do ask and do mention the name of who you are asking these posts never fall into place darlin.

If you use the "tree" format for reading threads you'll know who he's responding to.  It's really not that complicated to figure out.  And thanks for further muddying the waters.  As Taz so succinctly stated, context.

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This is why I dig you so much

Why do you feel my comment muddied the waters? I agree with the O.P. I also feel it's "OK" to say we were ripped off. Since when does a gag order about being ripped off apply? And I don't have to feel obligated to bring his name to the boards because it was done and it is known about screen name and all .I agree with Taz however there is no need to go back several years . Again the OP is correct in his post.

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I thought I was perfectly clear. Provider gives service, hobbyist "forgets" the envelope. Maybe on purpose, maybe not. Nothing more beyond a simple business transaction gone wrong.

No need to out names on a public board. This was nothing more than an incentive post to prod a hobbyist into doing the right thing - which he did (for the most part).

a name would have been given. Situation was resolved to everyone's satisfaction, we're all happy now, big group hug, lol.

Bitch bitch bitch, doesn't it get old after a while? I live to give you hell LR, you know that, it's my mission in life, my sole reason for being alive. Now go turn off your f*cking auto reply or I won't waste your time anymore.

I love my girlies, they're the best

ecause most people don't know who and what PP and you are talking about.  Not everyone on the boards and in the community has their pulse on all the gossip and goings on.  By continuing to talk about the situation in vague generalizations just further muddies the water.

That's great, but I still don't know WTF the thread was all about.  Can you PM me with details?  Anyone.... Bueller?

Sure seeker, will do but you're not getting any names, just vague generalities, lol...

and I somewhat understand why the original post was made...