I would appreciate comments by hobbists and Service Providers on this topic.

I just had a very distasteful experience with a SP.  She advertised her rate and I called and she mentioned her rate again when I made the appoinment.

She requested I put the donation on the bedstand, next to her and immediately asked for a "TIP".  She told me that her interest, willingness and enthusiasm depended on the "TIP".

I told her that I didn't like this setup and if she wanted more money, she should ask for it upfront.  I tried to take my money back,, but she had already grabbed it.  

She told me to undress, but kept whinning about a "TIP" and said that the better the "TIP", the better our encounter would be.  I told her that I would consider tipping her after our encounter.  But she said that she always got her tip upfront.

She told me that she liked "generous" men.  And that she always got tips.  So, I must not be generous.

Frankly, by this time, I had lost all interest in her.  I knew that no matter what I "TIPPED", she would want more.  

So, I got dressed and left.

Yes, the SP got her money without providing any benefit to me.  I am not going to fight or try to take it back.  I am sure that she had means to prevent this.  I did provide a very negative review; she was not in Chicago, but Detroit.

Let me say, I have given tips to SPs in that who gave me exceptional service or made a very pleasant experience.  But nothing turns me off more than me feeling I am being taken for a sucker.  My hormones do not control me that much.

My feelings again are if an SP wants $xx for an encounter, than be honest enough upfront and ask for that amount.  Not to be too mercenary about it, but when I use the services of any other professional:  dentist, doctor, accountant, lawyer, plumber, car mechcanic, painter, etd, I am never asked for a "TIP".  They quote a price, I agree to it, the service is provided and I pay the bill.

I would appreciate any comments, in particular from our lovely Service Providers.

You should post this SP's name so all of us could avoid her in the future.  Just my 2 cents.

You should post her name so we all know who to avoid.  And why ask the providers for their opinion?  Isn't this board for the clients? The providers have a conflict of interest in their responses on here.

I have to agree with you on this one.  I am no cheapskate, but I tip people for good service.  If this SP was a waiteress in a resteraunt would she tell the table "If you give me a good tip I will give you good service."?  I think not.  TIPS is actually an acronym "To Insure Prompt Service".  This type of SP gives others a bad name, and is a Rip Off Con Artist.

Sorry you took one for the team like that.  She must have been an Ex Spa Girl new to being a SP.

Since you asked for input on your post, I decided to reply because I have very definite opinions relative to tipping.

Tipping also referred to as gratuity, is above and beyond someone's charge....because the customer is GRATEFUL FOR SERVICES WHICH ARE RENDERED TO THEM.

I tip my waiter because I am grateful because he provided me good service, I tip my grocery delivery man, because I am grateful he didn't break my eggs.

Our profession, like the ones I listed above depend on good customer service orientation.  Therefore, the client tips BECAUSE HE WANTS TO.  Tips are APPRECIATED BY ME....but not required.

Provider's would not have a conflict of interest anymore than you or anyone else in this situation.  What happened in this situation is called UPSELLING and also known as a rip off.  There is no reputable provider that would condone what this woman has done.  I would advise the poster in this situation to post a review and also send out a warning about this person on all public boards so that others will not fall into her scam.

Just as you have an opinion, so do we.  This board is NOT only for clients.  It's called a discussion board for all to comment, not hobbyists or providers board.  If someone seeks the opinions of one side or the other it is their right to do so.  Besides...hiding behind an alias instead of using your REAL handle while trashing people says much more about you than you think.

tip must be earned, anywhere. good service-good tip.

Nice observation regarding the conflict.  I Agree, post her name and site.  TER should consider a special board so we can tag the providers that pull this type of scam.

Perhaps I'm naive because I am independent, but I never "expect" a tip ... as a provider, I feel the "gift" I quote covers the time I am with someone.  If they feel I have provided extraordinary service and want to "tip" me, that is their choice.  My enthusiasm/effort, etc., is not predicated on whether or not I think someone will "tip" me.