I fully understand the reasons behind provider pricing structures, but the old adage " the more you pay, the better the experience will be" is only true up to a point. Beyond a certain price, I don't believe you're getting any better service or experience (and in most cases less value). What you are getting is exclusivity, meaning only a select few gentlemen, who can afford the high price of admission, get the opportunity to spend time with that provider.
I have noticed lately on the ad boards that $400 an hour is the new black, with some rates going to $900 an hour and beyond. I understand all the economics that go into being a provider but there is also economics in being a client. Chicago is still a blue collar town that being said we are not afraid to spend our money but still like some bang for our buck. I know I would like to see a lot of these women but unfortunately I am not made out of money and I feel a lot of good hobbyist are being forced to limit their pleasure to once or twice a month. Not trying to offend or make any of the providers become defensive of their rates, just an observation.
..... you just have to look around a bit.
On the sites where I advertise most, there are more ladies whose rates are between $300-400 than the over-$500-range providers you mention. Perhaps you have more expensive tastes than you realize? LOL.
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I think this is a good discussion and good points on each side... For myself, I only indulge in the hobby ever so often - maybe once or twice every 2 to 3 months and often less... I have other bills and such that take priority. I do somewhat agree with Joe in that it seems lately that its tougher to find a really solid provider at the $250/$300 range where used to be, every now and again, you would be able to find a few really good ones. Or find that new girl. It does make it easier for the client like myself. I've spent less and a lot more on providers and it is what it is. Some I can't afford or refuse to pay that amount for sex if I can find someone equivalent or better at a lower cost.
My bigger beef though lies in reviewers on this very website... I'm pretty picky when it comes to this hobby. However, I love tons of women - sizes, looks, nationalities, it doesn't matter. However, when I read reviews that states a girl is a 9/10 and model material - she better be a damn knockout. She should be that girl you walk by in the mall and it's like "WOW! WTF" or that girl you think or know you could never get in real life. What I find is and this is not meant to be rude to anyone, is that some of these reviewers are 'too generous' with their reviews... I've read review after review of this girl or that girl and then I setup an appointment and while I had a good time, the girl isn't really all that. And, I mean, she's not a girl that I would really go nuts for in the 'regular' world. I've been with a lot of nice looking women that I have not paid for (and many not so nice looking) but I guess when I'm paying for it - I expect a little more and or more accurate reviews. Sometimes, maybe I'm expecting a little too much.
I've been burned often in this hobby and often, that was attributed to poor reviewers on this very site. You can be nice in your review and still be honest. I relate all women I see in this business to women I have been with and/or attracted to in real life. I don't rate a girl high just because she's giving me sex that I'm paying for. There is nothing more frustrating then spending $300 and just having a rough experience or just not having any physical attraction to a girl for whatever reason.
I recently saw a girl a few weeks ago. Her price point was $400. I had a great time. She's was a very attractive young girl with a solid small petite body. I enjoyed the visit a lot. I would rate probably a 7 or 8 tops on the attractive list and a 8/9 in performance. Everyone else is rating her a 10. She's not a model or even close but she's nice. We clicked well but I probably wouldn't repeat. I've been with AMPs as nice looking and almost as good of a time for $160.
Anyway - sorry for the ranting... I don't mind paying a little extra for quality as long as I'm getting quality and often in this business, I have been burnt and not gotten what I would expect for the extra dollars.
I agree with you on a number of your points. It used to be that a new provider would start out with hourly rates a bit below the average local market price, and if you watched her first few reviews pop up, and they were positive, you could find good value before they jacked up their rates. Now it seems that not only has the average market price gone up from a couple years ago (by 30-50%), but new providers are greedily asking above that market price. So much for finding value in new talent anymore. With the way prices have increased I've gone from a kid in a candy store to just browsing the shelves. There are a bunch of ladies I'd love to see, but just can't justify spending $$$$+/hour on them (I WOULD like to retire someday!). Lately I've been seeing a couple UTR gals, Asian apartment girls and sensual massage providers, that all have very reasonable rates, and provide me with the satisfying experiences I seek. Just like the providers adjust rates to accomodate their financial needs, I adjust who I see based on my financial situation and comfort. Sure, it would be nice to be wealthy and not care about cost and value in the P4P world, but I, like probably the majority of the guys who see providers, work a regular job and have to budget my money in order to be able to afford it. Unfortunately, what I can afford is becoming very limited as of late.
I agree and what I see of late many providers looking just for upscale gentlemen but their look don't justify the price their asking for.Also if you try to ask for less service for less money they become offended but in my opinion is just a business proposition.A big mistake many providers make they offer only what they want and don't look at business through "customer eyeglasses " .
In my situation, I saw a provider that saw me on a whim as she was getting out of the biz. We see each other when we can as we are both busy with civy jobs. You have to get lucky. And since mine changed jobs, I hardly ever get to see her anymore. It's just luck.
I agree with AJH, I know the average rates of both Chicago area and visiting providers have gone up in the last year. Heck, there is an outcall only provider I was going to see last week and did not after she raised her rate. Like AJH, I do have an UTR provider and an Asian place I go to, and a few select FBSM providers where I do get more bang for the buck (pun intended!). We have two choices-less frequency with more quality, or equal frequency with less quality. I switch back and forth between the two.
How can I find this UTR providers?
Reminds me of toothpaste commercial! All good points I agree, I often wonder if providers ever price themselves out of the market? How do they come back to a lower price point once they have done that, specials?
As of the last 6 months our rates have increased from the standard 300 an hour to about 400 an hour for a number of reasons. The first of which is that I let the women I work with choose there own rates after explaining the effects of certain choices. For example, if you are not desperate it is better to have a higher rate, above 300 because this will keep volume down and increase the quality of clients. (most clients paying 400 plus are simply more informed and respect the provider in both the encounter and with time) While in General clients paying 300 or less seem to treat girls with far less respect and tend to drag out there time well beyond an hour. This is my advice to new girls that work with me. I tend to also look for high quality girls, like Kelly who works with me now and Sierra who I used to work with that have other sources of income and can afford to be choosy.
And choosy you should be as well! The old adage is never more true in this industry " the more you pay, the better the experience will be" However, read reviews and only choose providers and agencies with good feedback and in most cases you will need to pay more then 300 for a quality experience that will keep you smiling though out the week. It is better to have 2 great, memorable experiences a month over 4 experiences that left you feeling empty or cheated.
Life is short
Make it unforgettable
I fully understand the reasons behind provider pricing structures, but the old adage " the more you pay, the better the experience will be" is only true up to a point. Beyond a certain price, I don't believe you're getting any better service or experience (and in most cases less value). What you are getting is exclusivity, meaning only a select few gentlemen, who can afford the high price of admission, get the opportunity to spend time with that provider.
Well, I thank you for making me realize that I am a time waster and a mistreater of women and that I like to patronize poor quality girls, and to think for an extra $100 I can change all of that! I can't believe I have had all of these terrible experiences for $300 and under...actually I go as high as $350 so I am only half an ogre.
It will be interesting to watch the coming implosion on hooker prices when Chicago slips in to bankruptcy. You guys as a city are broke. As rents, taxes increase, as business move to other locations, it will be interesting to see if ladies will be able to get the prices they're now demanding. Chicago will go the same way as Detroit. Your city will file for bankruptcy, and when you do, a large percentage of their clients will dry up, they just won't have the money. If you think for a minute that it won't happen to you guys and more importantly, you girls, your crazy. Springfield is not going to bail you out. Your only avenue is to raise taxes. Hotels will cost more, restaurants will charge more, cabs will charge more, and on and on and on, meaning hookers will ask for even more than their asking now. The question becomes, who's going to be able afford them.
Which in my humble opinion, means, smart ladies will offer hugh discounts, offer amazing menu options. Its going to happen. It may be a year or even 2, but its going to happen.
Except that didn't happen in Detroit? Just because the city itself went bankrupt doesn't mean there aren't flourishing suburbs that have residents with more than enough discretionary income.
hicagoJoe,
What were you thinking bringing up $
I am sorry you were subjected to what you were, but you kinda asked for it.
This is a luxury and, as with most luxuries , you get what you pay for. With that said,
everyone's taste are different and the experience they are looking for is different.
In my world, discretion is priceless.
Be well Sir
I am not worried nor upset by the replies to my post, that is what discussion is, debate is both sides of the question. I am a little confused by your discretion comment though. Does more money mean more discretion? Are cheaper providers or consumers less discrete? Please explain
I am not even sure how to start this because I find this post offensive and really, it doesn't even apply to me, because I have already priced most of you out.
First of all, these women/girls put themselves out there on display hoping to attract "gentlemen" who are interested in spending time with them... that takes humility! How do you put a price on that?
Seriously, this isn't a flea market, there isn't any negotiating and how dare you ask a provider for a service or price that hasn't already been "advertised". This is a business and there are rules. There is a lot of humility that goes into a provider subjecting herself to the many opinions of others. May I remind you, it isn't you picture that is out there, we don't write reviews on your performance or appearance. These girls subject themselves to so much already and then you ask them to negotiate and you don't understand why they would find that offensive!!??!!??!!
This is a simple business, you go online you find a girl you can afford and you make an appointment.
It really doesn't get any more simple than that.
Chicago Joe, I understand your dilemma but as my dad taught me, if you don't have cash to pay for it than you don't need it.
I can promise the girls out there, there are plenty men out there that will treat you as well as you treat them. I always say that Chicago is like Baskin Robbins, There are 31 flavors of rich in Chicago, it just depends on what you like ... DO NOT COMPROMISE
You are right Gina I don't need it and that God I have been priced out of your services
God does not belong in this conversation!
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We know about your past. Time for meds as well.
I don't need you, never had me and never will...
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You pissed your pants, lol
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oooooops ... drunk again...
And I can assure the girls, you are no captain ...
I have my moments....
Please don't make me call you out..
I dare not say anything about yours ..
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small penis syndrome. ....
geez.... I hate when that happens.
Captain_Obvious is not in the 31 flavors.
Seriously,... who likes a hater
I think interesting points have been made on both sides of this debate. I, too, have noticed an uptick in prices in the last year. In some cases, providers I'd see frequently at 350-400 have moved to $500 per hour. Could I afford that? I could, but I'd rather just find another provider.
I'm a free market guy, so I don't seek to complain or belittle providers at all. But I do wonder if they've seen business slip, or if there's an overwhelming array of guys lining up at $400 per hour. I'd love to hear feedback from providers on this.
A year or two ago, the only providers I'd see at the $400 price point and above were 9s and 10s (in my book, anyhow).
I wonder if there will be a snap back. I think there's great opportunity for young, hot providers to come in at $300 and find themselves with a full schedule. It seems like the pent up demand is lingering
Number two in America. You may not be made of money, but there are a bunch of hobbyists in this town who are. These providers charge these rates because evidently there's a demographic that is willing and able to pay.
With that said, I appreciate the guys who save up for a few months just to see me as much as I appreciate the guys who cover the donation with the change that the maid finds in the lint trap. I have friends that I get so excited just thinking about, though only get to see them on occasions when finances allow. But my rates are my rates and this isn't a charity.
Number 2 in America? Sorry but New York, DC, Boston, SF, Vegas, Miami, LA, and Seattle are all more expensive than Chicago.
"Chicagoans pay more to live in their city than do residents of 64 cities in the study, including Miami and Los Angeles, and even Tokyo and Paris."
You just cited a right wing lobbying group supported by the Koch brothers who want to lower the "oppressive" cost of living in Chicago by cutting our taxes (ie: our schools, environmental protections, etc) and bring in business by eliminating minimum wage.
Chicago is expensive, agree. But that's a terrible site and group.
New York, LA, and the Bay. I would've also guessed Honolulu. No way it's higher than #5.
Are you sure? (Not that this has any bearing on the content of your post...sorry
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When you're addicted to something you find yourself spending more on it than you should or want to... ![]()
and think you want to see her on a regular basis, ask her if she will give you a reduced rate in exchange for you seeing her every 2 weeks or however often you decide on. I have done this before and it usually works well. Client wants to see me more often, but can't afford my rate everytime. So we agree on a discounted price, and have a standing appointment every week. Bonus points if you can come at a time that is usually not very busy, so she isn't missing a full priced appointment. every now and then you should tip her or bring her a small gift to show that you still appreciate that she is doing this for you.
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That's smart thinking Brooke. No you got me thinking. How 'bout this then ...
- I pay your living expenses, food, etc.
- I also pay an additional $300-500 every weekend for entertainment and nights out.
- I also pay anywhere between $2K to $5K every so often for a quick vacation. Maybe the occasional $10K on important occasions, anniversaries, etc.
In exchange you can live with me and basically NOT have sex with me, except on the rare occasion.
Oh wait a minute. That's called a "girlfriend / wife."
Scratch that. How 'bout I just pay $500 / hour or whatever and see you twice year (?) Much better.
Hilarious. no, not really. Sad but true.