You know, I can understand being disappointed after all the research was done; fact of the matter is that the OP clearly complained about height, and the provider obviously has reviews as well as a profile stating her height here. "Model-material" does not mean "tall".
As for trying not to hurt the provider's feelings, regardless if she were mentioned by name or not: that's not possible. He's not concerned with the provider's feelings, he's concerned with venting and feels vindicated in his venting. the language he used to describe the provider was horribly rude and politically incorrect. I get being disappointed, but hiding behind an alias and talking like that about someone who really cant even defend herself? I mean really. The OP is clearly unhappy with someone else's rating of the provider when the OP should have realized that numbers are arbitrary to begin with. Not to mention, the OP had the nerve to berate another hobbyist for his review of the provider, as if that review was the OPs "make or break". But really? Why do this in public? Unless the OP doesn't have access to the private RO board, no need
So I had yet another bad experience with a provider today. This one's reviews had a bunch of 9s and 10s with nothing lower than a 8. Walked in and not only was she shorter and fatter than the pics, her face was a 6 at best (drunk). What is wrong with you guys???
She was maybe 3 inches or so from being a midget. And she had that compact, midget-like appendages. You know what I'm talking about, dense arms and legs. WTF?? And her rates were ridiculous to boot. On top of it all her Incall was lacking let's just say. The only thing that saved the day was that her BBBJ technique was decent.
Can we get a rating for the face and body as well as personality??? I think some of y'all are factoring personality into it. This girl had a shit personality to boot, but some of you clowns apparently like that. I say that, because I can't imagine you are rating on looks. Maybe a lot of you have poor eye sight. F*ck it all.
which is "9" per TER standards would be at least 5'8 ".
Look at top 10/10 providers, who claim they "deserve" their 10/10 are around 5'3"
Playboy's "Super Models" my ass .
So over this shit...
But this is RO board material.
There are plenty of shorter ladies that are "model material" it doesn't necessarily mean they are runway height. A lot of print models are shorter than the standard 5'7". It's a guideline and yes I too think it's quite flawed but unfortunately it is what it is. Always read reviews and do some additional research if you are leery.
If a 9 is 5'8", then apparently I'm a 2? Uh oh.
lol... luckily some of us really really get off on 2's if we are using the height rating system 
TP
2? You're 200 baby. No scales can stand up to that exuberant personality. You're a god damn walking sex bomb.
But I can judge that 1. because I've met you, and 2. I like girls lol
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I'm dying to know what 3. is.....
But, without Aldo's photoshopping, you are 7 in real world. Maybe 8 with good make up, hair done and heals.
I like your self confidence, btw .
Look at top 10/10 providers, who claim they "deserve" their 10/10 are around 5'3"
Playboy's "Super Models" my ass .
So over this shit...
But this is RO board material.
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Maybe the gentlemen were into that look? Although, I dont understand her sscoring if u claim she looks as she does. I had a hobbyist text me recently that when they tried to give me high scores. Ter wouldnt let them. Im not claiming to be anywhere near supermodel, but maybe the hobbyist really felt I deserved being rated higher.
Look at top 10/10 providers, who claim they "deserve" their 10/10 are around 5'3"
Playboy's "Super Models" my ass .
So over this shit...
But this is RO board material.
And also seriously distracted from the OP's issue.
Ratings are not a measurement of height, models come in many shapes and sizes, height does not determine the skill or quality of a provider...
Also, stop it.
A model for plus-size clothing is still a model!
If this girl looked so bad then why did you go through with the Session? You should have just walked out.
I don't do walkouts. A deal is a deal, and I do appreciate what the ladies have to go through.
Right. Yet here you are. Trashing her. Shut up and do your homework.
I totally appreciate the respect and sentiment here.... However, you are paying for a service! As with anything, you should get what is advertised. I really do honor your sensitivity for what we have to go through.
There are a couple key points I will make:
- Us ladies who are properly representing have to jump through hoops to let people know we are real.
- Women who misrepresent give a bad reputation to the business as whole, driving hobbyists out, and ultimate hurting business for the rest of us so they can get people in the door.
- I don't GET the strategy in misrepresenting! There are hobbyists looking for all types of women! Not only are you being dishonest, you are having your visitors not enjoy themselves. that hurts them, your self esteem, and ruins your chance for repeat business.
Say the provider you saw was not completely misrepresenting; you still have a right to leave if you aren't feeling it. As providers, we expect the same courtesy, yes? If we are uncomfortable, we have a choice to call the "deal" off. So do clients.
I would recommend that if you happen to run into this issue again, to tip her for her time, and delicately say you aren't "feeling it." I think that is the most responsible approach for each of you as individuals and the "hobby" as a whole.
Do ur f***ing research.... Ugh ....
Yep. He must have done his research and stuck with it, then blamed her because she wasn't 'his' model type.
Advertising = attracting guys who thing YOU are model material. I don't advertise to attract guys who want a 5'9" + VS model, and I'm not going to magically turn into one because some dude books me lol. The guys who book me like a little cushion for the pushin and a little ass to pop through the fabric of the form fitting dresses. Not a clothes hanger, (which is very hot, just not me).
And you, my friend, need to go to lunch with me. Are you going to the party in July?
Lmfao...
Yes we do need to do Lunch soon... Text or call me I'm here til the 18th then I go on a mini tour...
No to the July party-I like my discrete life... Lol ..... I have lots of parties already on my schedule for June/July/August in my civie life... Before I go back into academic mode!! 😘😘😘!!!
Of course I followed through. I don't want to be a jerk about it, despite the false advertising.
I dated someone who gave off the vibes that I wasn't his "perfect woman". Even in little comments. I picked it up because those things are very hard to hide when you're around the person you despise all the time. He also bitched about his multiple exes, and I wonder what he is saying about me. Their deformed tits, their bad habits, and other useless picky things. I now cringe at the thought of meeting this guy's friends or future girlfriends because of what he might have said about me.
I was responsible for not leaving the situation. I despise him for staying around when he knew he wasn't into me. (But I think my skills in the sack were what kept him around lolol.) Looking back, I felt like a fool knowing he wasn't into me, but said he was.
No matter who is to blame, some people don't see their side of the coin and blame it solely on the other person and anyone else involved in the situation. Good intentions don't make a person in the right. Sometimes you have to use the brain and the gut.
Let's turn this around to this situation. You followed through on a paid appointment with a girl who was clearly not what you expected (based on your minimal research). Like him, you are bitching about a lady you knowingly had sex with under the circumstances you are talking about. That means you knowingly made a mistake and are blaming her for it, with no name or opportunity for her to tell her side of the story.
When I advertise, post, and put up pictures, (obviously at angles I look best,) I advertise to attract the guy who will think I am an 8-10 in looks. Since I cannot read minds, I have seen some who may not think I'm what they expected. But they also neglected to fully research 1. who was seeing me and giving me the good scores, what those guys felt was attractive, (short, curvy, bubble booty, tits, humor, and oral skills.) and 2. My blogs, posts, rates, pictures, and style. (I had one think I was blonde when my TER profile clearly stated I was a short haired brunette???)
If they did not think they were going to enjoy their time, they should simply leave.
I ask, if i'm not your type, but I am a bucket list check-off, which I have been, don't expect me to go out and buy stilts so I'm 5'9", and get lipo right before our appointment.
The internet has so much information, and if it's that important that you have to blast that someone didn't live up to what you think is model material... it's YOUR fault. Especially if you put your money down and followed through, knowing you would be upset about it later.
This may not sound respectful, but disagreements don't mean disrespect. I'm mostly respecting the lady in this situation.
The only information we have to go by is your OP, no pictures, reviews, or research to do ourselves to properly answer. So I'll go by the OP.
You have your pointer finger pointing at a woman and everybody else, but forget that there are three pointing right back at you.
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I often "follow" reviewers that appear to share my tastes and are dependable. Some reviewers have a bias toward greater or lesser ratings. In addition, providers who are pleasant, smile and do not rush will typically get additional points when the reviwer sits down to draft a review. In contrast, if a provider declares at 61 minutes into a hour appointment "Hey, dickhead its time to leave" her rating will likely suffer a reduction. Of course, there is a major difference between reviewers who prefer GFE types over what I call "raw" sex providers.
If height is so important to you, perhaps you should look what the TER profile lists for height. The ratings on looks are a subjective combination of many factors. I find that the anorexic looks of some fashion models are downright unattractive, and I'm not going to pretend that I find a provider attractive just because they look like some skin-and-bones fashion model even if the TER guidelines say that a 9 = model material.
If the TER profile listed her as 5'10" when she is really 4'11", then you've got a real complaint. But, if the TER height is accurate, then you've only got yourself to blame for this.
I am 6'4 and I have always dreamed about women under 5 feet. And, it is very hard to find a provider under 5 feet. Life goes on...
but as a cubs fan, you should be used to disappointment.....
that would be like always coming up short.
His complaint is the opposite.
So your rant is under an alias but you'll PM me to call my judgment of a provider's looks into question? And you were this pissed off but you did the appointment anyway? I won't out you but you also didn't walk away from a B&S with a provider 20 years older than advertised, so I think your biggest problem is a lack of testicular fortitude. "A deal is a deal" my ass and not when the service is not as advertised. I'll be looking forward to seeing if you grow at least half a pair and post a review of this young lady with a 5 appearance score.
Not any reviewers.
First off, the numerical ratings are meaningless. There is no reason at all to think that your definition of a 9 for looks or performance is what anyone else will be using. Each of us have our own scales, and for most those are more than a little situational. A lady who treats me like a king and has wonderful skills in bed is going to end up looking a lot more pretty to me than one who treats me like crap, even if she is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. It is human nature.
Second, to use any reviews you have to do a little homework on the reviewer in order to understand his reviews and the scores he gives. A 9/9 from a guy who has done 50 reviews with scores ranging from 6 to 10 means a lot more than one from a guy who has only done that one review, or someone else with 20 reviews, all of which are 9/9.
Lastly, what is written in the review, you know those word things, is the most important part. That is where you can get clues as to what the guy liked and did not like, what was important to him, and whether there is something special in that meeting that may have colored the review. Not that anyone would give a lady a crappy review because he got stuck in traffic and she was not able to let him stay a full hour when he got there 45 minutes late, or maybe he wanted some greek which she does not do, or perhaps he wanted a tall woman, and made a date with someone who is very short.
We all have bad dates, but most of us try to learn from them and screen better next time.
Or we can bitch about the review process and reviewers and keep doing what we want to do despite the crappy results.
You choose. Maybe if you do something different, own your decisions, you will not have to write this again so soon "So I had yet another bad experience with a provider today"
Or maybe it is all someone else's fault.
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I think I agree with your point about the common factor here if it is a usual occurrence!
However, I think it's hard to know exactly what happened in one isolated instance or who's "fault" it is.
I stress to both providers and clients that it is really important to ask the necessary questions and provide accurate information ON THE FRONT END.
That way people don't end up running to the intrawebs and whining about an experience that could have been avoided and attacking an individual that may not deserve it.
BBJCIM? I think that always adds 2 to 4 points to their appearance scores.
She was maybe 3 inches or so from being a midget. And she had that compact, midget-like appendages. You know what I'm talking about, dense arms and legs. WTF?? And her rates were ridiculous to boot. On top of it all her Incall was lacking let's just say. The only thing that saved the day was that her BBBJ technique was decent.
Can we get a rating for the face and body as well as personality??? I think some of y'all are factoring personality into it. This girl had a shit personality to boot, but some of you clowns apparently like that. I say that, because I can't imagine you are rating on looks. Maybe a lot of you have poor eye sight. F*ck it all.
Even in the king of provider towns, Las Vegas, this happens. You wonder who these guys are that write reviews. Is it their first sexual experience? And they're just grateful someone let them have sex at all?? Even if they DID pay for it??
I know what you're saying.
If you want a guarantee, go to Vegas. The women there are predominantly hot and meet the standard of their scores. Especially the younger ones. Omg. Anywhere else and it's a crap shoot...and usually comes up craps if you ask me.
Guy does absolutely no research on provider. Reviews clearly state her body type. Shows up, pays, and goes through with it anyways. Mentions nothing to provider. Comes to a public forum with an alias and shows how classless he is by berating her. Also, cowardly attacks other reviewers. Doesn't post actual review. Confirms why no woman will sleep with him unless he pays.
Gyu does no research: You're assuming that. he said he read reviews, that's some research.
Reviews clearly state her body type: uh huh. And those are always accurate? One man's skinny is another man's fat. I have seen provider's whose website pics and reviews don't match their in-person body type. I have seen providers who are shorter, and taller, than stated in their website. There are degrees of lies in the marketing process.
Shows up, pays, goes through it anyways: He clearly stated he wasn't the type to back out of a deal. I agree with him in principle. He seems to have owned that his research didn't work and he still booked a date and he owed her the compensation. He clearly stated that in a later post. How can you argue that? We're not talking about a blind date. Wtf? You made an appointment with a stranger to have sex and pay them for it. It's a black market contract and he honored it.
by berating her: hard to argue he probably went too far and what he said was likely hurtful. I don't think that makes him a coward, just insensitive.
Attacks other reviewers: didn't pay attention to that while reading the thread, but if you're attacked for a post, it's human nature to attack back. Not sure if that qualifies as cowardly either, but maybe that's a semantical issue.
Doesn't post actual review: bad reviews rarely, if ever get approved. Unless there are aggregious acts involved, doesn't happen. Why bother?
I don't know, but i totally get where the guy is coming from, while I might not agree with the style he presented the issue with, I don't disagree that false advertising leads to disapointing experiences. The advertisement doesn't always match the reality. I know that for a fact having experienced it first hand. Women in the business who have websites they have used for years and haven't necessarily updated and their appearance has changed by it's not reflected in the site and also not reflected in the reviews because some guys seem to discount the physical qualities during / after their meetings and that doesn't get reflected in their 'rating'.
I guess I am coward and a jerk and a douche bag for agreeing with his premise. I accept those monikers if that's what my shared opinion with him makes me....because I don't care if my opinions aren't popular, just that they are fair to the situation and the facts. Now how you state your opinion....well that's another topic...
There's a difference between someone using pics from 8 years ago, like I dealt with once, pretending they are recent, and what the OP is expressing. He is calling into question the providers integrity but also the reviewers who have posted uninformed or simply wrong opinions on what is attractive and what a good personality is. First off, he says the pics are not accurate height wise. I don't know how the hell you fake being tall in a picture. I'm pretty sure the girl isn't wearing stilts. Secondly, the provider's profile has a height range of two inches, not created by her, but by OTHER REVIEWERS who have seen her IN PERSON as recently as TWO MONTHS AGO. The height issue is indeed an issue of ignorance brought on himself by OP.
The guy then proceeds to reproach both the reviewers and the provider which is classless and cheap. It's one thing if the reviewers have elevated her ratings maliciously and its another when they are simply expressing their opinions. Judging by the reaction of one of the reviewers, who mind you was harassed by PM by OP for his review, it's clearly the latter that is the case here.
Back out of a deal? A deal, at least to me is, I bring A for your B. If B is not what you represented it to be, than you don't get A. I'm pretty sure that's universal in business in any situation. You mention that its different when it's illicit. Sorry but I'm not going through with purchasing a gram when somebody represented it as a freaking 8 ball! I'm pretty sure that's the dumbest reasoning ever.
The premise you are agreeing with is the premise of disappointment. Well guess what, life can be disappointing. Everyone experiences it. What separates the decent folk from the barbarians is the way in which they handle disappointment. And the way in which OP handled it was absolutely appalling and created nothing but drama and resentment.
And I'll add that he didn't just PM to ask why I thought so highly of her when he didn't, he was a dick about it...subject line was "Really dude?" followed by a mini version of his board rant. Yes, "really dude" and I enjoyed myself immensely with the lady...and I don't feel the least bit sorry that he did not.
I don't see this exchange, or that subject line ("really dude"). Which post and response are you talking about?
The PM that he sent me basically blaming me for things not being as he expected
Got it. There's a layer here I haven't gone to...you must have reviewed her....and then he PM'd you "really dude". Ok. Got it.
Obviously this is more personal to you, so, sure... makes sense.
I have no idea who this provider is, which you guys all seem to...but if she has guys who like her then maybe that's all that matters.
The premise you are agreeing with is the premise of disappointment. Well guess what, life can be disappointing. Everyone experiences it. What separates the decent folk from the barbarians is the way in which they handle disappointment. And the way in which OP handled it was absolutely appalling and created nothing but drama and resentment.
I agree with you
...my imagination. But I see it here again. How'd you do it?
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determine if she was hot enough for you? Don't go by the ratings--read the reviews and look at the pics to see if jr. gets excited.