Yes. A public post With my business name in it... As you hide behind a alias.
I apologized for being blunt. I don't know what else more I can do at this point except move on and try to be better then yesterday.Jaime
I scheduled an appointment with a provider of theres three weeks in advance when I heard she was touring in a city that I had planned to be in. I made it clear to them that I was traveling (we were going back and forth with providers in two cities and settled on one). I found out on Tuesday morning that I needed to change my plans and wouldn't be able to make my appointment on Thursday with WetNWildEscorts provider. I immediately notified them. Here's the reply I got:
"Ok in the future book your appt 2 hours ahead. Anything longer will not be accepted. "
to which I replied:
"I am assuming that means you don't want my business. 2hrs ahead for a booking isn't anything to be planning around. I was trying to be respectful and give you as much time as possible."
and got this in reply:
"No that means that if you cancel once you'll likely to do it again which causes us to lose money. Therefore we will not accept an appt from someone whose job or family or whatever will call them away. For those people it's simpler to just book 2 hours ahead. "
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I'm pretty sure providers cancel. For lots of good/unfortunate reasons. Security concerns I get. Cancelled tours, less so -- but what can you do. There are plenty of reasons on both sides.
I've been cancelled on by providers more often then I've had to cancel on them (which is a rare occurrence and I NEVER have canceled less than a day in advance).
So what's my point?
I'm trying to understand what's reasonable here. I fully understand that when EITHER party cancels it's a hassle for everyone. I recently had a provider cancel 30 minutes before our appointment that I spent 1.5 hours in traffic to get to. It happens.
My point is -- what's reasonable notice? Is WetNWildEscorts an anomaly?
My guess is that they had a rash of cancellations and weren't in a very good mood. I can't imagine that anyone (hobbyist or provider/agency) wouldn't want notice that there is a conflict. Business travel has a tendancy to change at the last minute, or in your case not the last minute, but 48 hrs notice.
IMO, you did the right thing and let them know as early as you did.
I can't speak for this or any other agencies practices, but I'd be curious to know their take and anyone elses on the board.
BL
This is why I never have used an agency although my crazy schedule makes it tempting.
I hear horror stories with agencies all the time. They are concerned with booking fast and hard - not necessarily customer service. They just want to get you and the girl together and the money paid, more often than not IMO.
However, I do know of some more exclusive agencies that are much more professional (usually the ones that rep porn stars).
I realize the topic of providers ratings is it's own long thread. However, it makes me wonder how much an agency like this impacts their providers ratings. I bet if there are issues scheduling etc, the reviewer might take it out on the provider instead of the agency.
In your case you completely control and own customer service from start to finish and it's reflected by your stellar and consistent ratings.
I love these boards...you find out about new girls to ad to your bucket list 
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This makes me sad to read that gentleman may feel that way! 24 hours notice is usually a standard outside of emergency situations! Perhaps that is the difference between bigger agencies and smaller more provider/client focused agencies. I wholeheartedly agree that most agencies are for themselves and not for their providers or their guests. And those can give all agencies a bad name! That seems very unprofessional to use that tone, no matter what the circumstances may be. I hope you will have better experiences in the future!
Our cancellation policy is 2 hours. You need to give us a two hour warning that you will be cancelling your appt. That way we have enough time to try and book a replacement and our girls don't lose out.
This isn't exactly how it went down because he is only giving you quips on what the email contained. Im not digging it up to even post.
I do what I need to do on my end to make sure to keep my girls safe and to make them money. If I can't do either of those 2 things then I am pretty much shit outta luck.
I do what I need to do to on my end to to make scheduling you with the girl of your dreams very easy breezy. If it isn't easy breezy then I move on.
I love my clients. It shows in my correspondence. But I get a ton of inquires and if I choose to not deal with someone for whatever reason then I have a right too. But I will say your the first to cry about it publicly.
Ladies.. be careful booking this one. If he is this critical and difficult to work with during booking, imagine the review to come. ( If you want his info PM me.)
AGAIN….
You cancel a pre book, so I tell you no more pre booking. Whats the problem?
Jaim
FACT: There are not additional details you can add. That is the full content of all emails.
The issue is I was trying to be respectful of you and your agency -- You in turn threaten me? Wow!
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How did I threaten you?
You blasted me on a public board!! lol
I just made a statement. Just like you...
But honestly. Yes. This is a big learning lesson for me.
Obviously I need to practice being more professional and courteous.
Maybe it was a bad day for me and I apologize for my blunt reply.
Note taken...
Thanks everyone
Jaime
I thought the whole purpose of this board was to discuss things in the industry. I didn't blast you. I posted facts and asked others what There thoughts weree so I could learn form the experience and maintain respectful relationships with people in the business.
The threat:
"Ladies.. be careful booking this one. If he is this critical and difficult to work with during booking, imagine the review to come. ( If you want his info PM me.)
Yes. A public post With my business name in it... As you hide behind a alias.
I apologized for being blunt. I don't know what else more I can do at this point except move on and try to be better then yesterday.
Jaime
Yes I did name an agency. I also told facts about my experience.
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Ok. I lied. He is so awesome to deal with.
I apoligized and publicly admit to lieing about being difficult.
I made the big leap switching agencies to wet n' wild, simply because Jamie was driven, ambitious, and ALWAYS stayed on my back about punctuality and how important it is to make sure any & every encounter with me is a fulfilling, satisfying experience. He is a very compassionate & considerate person to work with. And I am VERY proud to be a wet n' wild doll completely discreet, business, and straight to the point. Which I assume any man with common sense would appreciate, specially scheduling with another man. It's my job to get you all relaxed, while showering you with love, attention, and affection! He is not a pimp, he is my agent & I happily work with him.
I have worked with is this agency numerous times and Jaime has always been super professional, courteous and polite.
Regardless, every agency has the right to run their business the way they see fit. I'm sure this kind of issue happens more than people would like to think and in your case while it sucks what happened, just respect their policy and move on.
If you were still able to see a lady I don't understand thy this is a problem, just book again
I have always used wet and wild agency either pre-booking or even a last minute appointment and I have never had a problem with them. Yes I have had to cancel appointments at times too but I have never had an issue and Jamie has always been understanding.
Some people think its easier to blame others for there own faults which sounds like the case here. Jamie has always been nothing but professional and great to work with the ladies are outstanding and never disappointed me. So maybe this guy was sending rude messages and Jamie is doing the right thing and protecting the ladies which to me is priority #1.
Wet and Wild is wonderful and I will continue to always use them and I recommend you try them too. They are nothing like what he said they are trust me I know first hand.
Jamie you rock and shame on him for attempting to ruin wet and wild reputation.
I was completely respectful the entire time.
Thank you.
This is a wake up call. I get frustrated and sometimes come back blunt or even rude.
I own up to it.
I am going to make it a priority to do better.
I don't want negative being spread about a business that I worked so hard to create.
Jaime
I have always and will always take responsibility for what some call "faults". I was a provider talking to a guy that treated me with disrespect. My point of view is from a provider's eyes. I have never used their services so they might do a better job on that end. I use my intuition and can spot red flags from a mile away. I wouldn't feel safe working for them. As far as being a client of theirs, I can't speak to that.
Some people think its easier to blame others for there own faults which sounds like the case here. Jamie has always been nothing but professional and great to work with the ladies are outstanding and never disappointed me. So maybe this guy was sending rude messages and Jamie is doing the right thing and protecting the ladies which to me is priority #1.
Wet and Wild is wonderful and I will continue to always use them and I recommend you try them too. They are nothing like what he said they are trust me I know first hand.
Jamie you rock and shame on him for attempting to ruin wet and wild reputation.
Planning a meet with no more than two hours notice isn't much of an option. When I'm traveling it's nice to have something lined up in advance. It seems that most providers I've seen don't even offer same day appointments. That the puzzling thing about their policy.
I cannot co-sign the posts from providers in this thread for one reason: If a new client set up with them 3 weeks in advance, several emails went back and forth, and booked with them ON TOUR and cancelled 24 hours previous they would of been salty as all get out. Not one provider post here acknowledges that. And shame on you for that.
This is not about notice, this is about a part of our business that is not widely thought about.
Reality: All providers / agencies deal with men who book that far in advance and then cancel 24 hours before cause they never intended on showing.. It's an actual thing. I bet when they got the email, they were like: Oh, he is one of those and now so and so is in this state with one less booking. Your not, but I can see where they would think so.
So this is not a Wetnwild agency / agency in general issue as the others are saying, imo. Seriously, in Chicago where no one bats an eye at agencies DEGRADING other agency's providers on their site, wetnwild keeps it above board. I have never heard complaints about them. I heard they treat their providers very well, and I don't hear that a lot, sadly. I think this is a singular experience based on frustration.
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I'm honestly reading the OPs posts wondering what is so hard to understand here?
As the owner said, maybe he was having a bad day and was being blunt rather than sugaring it up.
Cry me a river, OP. Being blunt & firm is not a bad thing.
Had he understood the business impact, he would have attempted to offset the inconvenience - or - waited until a future date to try again and hash it out with the owner. And I'm sure that the agency would have worked it out with him.
The only downside he's experiencing is that the girl of his choice might not be available at his chosen time.
And if that is worth potentially ruining Wet N Wilds reputation, he should consider the guy that didn't get to see the girl he'd booked and cancelled. Even if the cancellation was beyond his control, thinking of others before self would make this understandable.
We all love to plan ahead, but he has to accept that one of the top differences of an agency and an independent is that an agency almost always can accommodate same day requests.
Side note: as an Indy I always feel I have to tell guys I'm not an agency. Now I see that agencies have to tell men they aren't an indy. I'm amazed that he's saying "most girls say no booking same day" to an agency.....
After my 18 month hiatus, I considered using an agency instead of being independent. I contacted Wet N Wild and I found them to be very unprofessional, unsafe and pimp-like. I also contacted other agencies and didn't get the unprofessional disrespect I got from Wet N Wild. I decided to just be independent as I like to handle my own business so I know it's done professionally and safely.
We're all human and life gets in the way for all of us. The professional thing to do I to thank you for the notice, respect the fact that we all have a life and wish you a blessed day. Clients are more likely to come back when their treated with understanding and respect and not just a dollar sign. Have I lost money due to cancellations? Of course I have, we all have. The key is to live a lifestyle below your means so something like this isn't blow to your financial situation and run your business in a way that if someone has to cancel, your business can take the hit too. It happens. To not be prepared for it is creating a negative situation for yourself and your clients.
If anyone told me I had special rules because there are people in my life that might take me away from our plans, I wouldn't go back to them. They obviously feel they are above your loved ones, career, etc on the priority list. Their human, too. How dare them expect you to do something they and no other human is able to do? These people didn't deserve me working for them and they certainly don't deserve your business.
Namaste.
"Ok in the future book your appt 2 hours ahead. Anything longer will not be accepted. "
to which I replied:
"I am assuming that means you don't want my business. 2hrs ahead for a booking isn't anything to be planning around. I was trying to be respectful and give you as much time as possible."
and got this in reply:
"No that means that if you cancel once you'll likely to do it again which causes us to lose money. Therefore we will not accept an appt from someone whose job or family or whatever will call them away. For those people it's simpler to just book 2 hours ahead. "
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I'm pretty sure providers cancel. For lots of good/unfortunate reasons. Security concerns I get. Cancelled tours, less so -- but what can you do. There are plenty of reasons on both sides.
I've been cancelled on by providers more often then I've had to cancel on them (which is a rare occurrence and I NEVER have canceled less than a day in advance).
So what's my point?
I'm trying to understand what's reasonable here. I fully understand that when EITHER party cancels it's a hassle for everyone. I recently had a provider cancel 30 minutes before our appointment that I spent 1.5 hours in traffic to get to. It happens.
My point is -- what's reasonable notice? Is WetNWildEscorts an anomaly?
how can you say that when we never worked together?
As from what I remember, years ago, you were scheduled to come to chicago to work with us but never showed…
I am sorry that the little interaction you had with us left a sour taste in you mouth.
Jaime
I'm not sure who you're directing this to however, I have never worked with you.
As from what I remember, years ago, you were scheduled to come to chicago to work with us but never showed…
I am sorry that the little interaction you had with us left a sour taste in you mouth.
Jaime
I've been in the hobby for a long time here in Chicago. My experience has been that sometimes, as agencies begin to become more popular, a sense of entitlement seems to spring up. I'm not commenting or specifying on any specific agency, I just know that I've seen it happen where even though you've been a good, loyal customer, communication begins to have a certain "feel" to it, as if you (the customer) are being done a favor by being allowed to book with them. I don't know if that's the case here or not, but just offering this up as a cautionary tale. Once it reaches that point for me, I won't post about it or even complain about it, I'll just stop calling and take my $$ elsewhere.
After being in the industry for so long, I can 9 times out of 10 spot a client who's a time waster or who isn't going to follow through. I can just tell, from what they say, how they say it, or when they make a huge production. With all the agencies in the area, I don't understand why you would feel the need to make a post like this and complain about it. He didn't rip you off, threaten to kill you, he simply told you HIS policy with how he chooses to run HIS agency. Two days ahead of time is fine in my book , BUT I wasn't there. He could have picked up on things that made him not even want to waste his time on this guy.
There has been a huge amount of cancellations lately, time wasters, and guys who's first choice finally got back to him and they decide to cancel on you. I'm appalled at the other providers and agencies who decided to jump on the bandwagon cause a flipping agency said he can "only book 2 hours ahead" ???? I'm not seeing the issue, I have clients that book ladies 5 minutes ahead of time ?
Jaime is right, if you are going to complain about something this trivial I can only imagine if something doesn't go your way in a session or if something worse happened. As to the other who decided to point out he was very "pimp like" wtf does that have to do with the fact, that he again professionally told him that he could only book the same day. I hope this guy doesn't use my company sheesh !
I know another company that ban you if you cancel once, it doesn't matter how much notice you give, that's just how they roll. I don't knock them cause it's their policy. If I have someone who cancels often or time wasters I will either ban them or I have also told them they could only book same day appointments.
Disclaimer: I don't know Jaime, yes I'm hiding behind an alias so sue m
Disclaimer: I don't know Jaime either.
But what I DO understand is that as an owner to any business, if you can't manage the business well enough that your employees (in this case girls) aren't satisfied financially they will leave.
My 1st thoughts were...hmmmm...what's going on with the girl who suffered from the cancellation? Was it her 1st Chicago tour? Was she their #1 girl who knows she can jump ship and make money elsewhere? Did she do the tour as a favor and this made her goal fall short?
I've never worked for an agency, but I know that the profit is key to any organization.
Yes - we spot things a mile and a half away.
Some can't accept that intuition is what keeps the industry afloat. Agency or Indy.
I for one appreciate this thread, because it tells me a lot about a man with a wallet. I always thought independents were the only who got nit picked like this and inconvenienced by cancels.
I just want to note that this industry is a monopoly. Who cares if this dude is complaining on how he is getting screwed over cancelling. I personally don't care about the agency that I'm dealing with. The ultimate reason why I even contact an agency is because I want to see a certain provider. It is who I want to spend my hard earn money with. The agency has nothing to do with the girl I see besides the fact they are getting a cut of the money. The end result is the girl is the one who must make me happy. If I find a girl who has great reviews and has a bad agent.. Guess what... I'm going to try and book her. I don't just read a review or see an ad and think to myself... Wow this girl is attractive but does if she has a bad agency, I'm not going to see her. If I see a provider that is a total knock out, I am going to try to see her no matter who the middle man is.