There's a hobbyist who emails providers, confirm the appointments and never show up. He's done it to two of my girl friends, including myself. He uses the same name but different email addresses. I have him listed on the "Do Not See" list on my site and he's the last one listed. Ladies please beware! I have no idea why guys waste our time but it's sickening and stupid.

Guys who find out the location and then cancel, scream LE!

I sorry this has happened to you.  But at some level (and I am not being naive) you have to believe in the general integrity of the system and process, otherwise what's the point?  Sure people can change, folks can have an off day, but if a hobbyist has more than 3 reviews and those that he has reviewed has several reviews, I do put credence in what that person has said.  

IF THE SHOE FIT......shrug

I would not go as far to say they mean nothing, but at the same time many women use the WL system as just another reference like an Ok on P411. When I give a WL, it is my GOLDEN seal of approval, meaning the guy did more than merely pay me and not rip me off, or assault me. I will provide a reference to ANYONE who was respectful, but I will not provide a WL to anyone. The two are night and day as far as I am concerned. So, I don't put credit in every woman's white list because as I said, many use it as only a reference system.

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What I mean by "means nothing" is, just because you're white listed doesn't mean you won't play games.

Unfortunately some providers give them out like candy canes on Christmas. I'm a bit more particular. I will Never  
meet a new client based only on WL info.

I am only verified with rs2k. Do they have a similar "OK" or "white list" feature or is that site purely for verification purposes?

I don't use the White list for screening, I simply don't feel comfortable doing so.  If I can't see a guy's driver's license and see he is who he claims to be, I have no idea if the TER handle or any other website handle he uses actually belongs to him.  I need real info.  That being said, I will white list a gentleman if he asks and I feel he deserves it. I don't just do it for anyone.

I look at them like a review, completely voluntary.  I have never asked for a whitelist from a provider. I've only had one ask for a review, which I was going to do anyway.

This is why I stopped using RS2K - I don't want providers to have my personal information to use at their whim.      
I love her threat about exposing hobbyists - provides me alot of comfort to continue as a client with anyone other than my fave BP girls which whom I've never had an issue.

I really don't know what is wrong with people or why they like to waste people's time.

I must admit that when I first signed up for the service, I thought I would be able to use a unique ID number or a phone number to identify myself as a verified person. Having to still supply your full name and show ID kind of defeats the purpose a bit.

You say the name is white listed but the email addresses are different?  Why would you jump to the conclusion that a hobbyist who clearly impressed a provider enough to be white listed goes on to waste other provider's time?  Since the email address does not match, I would suggest that someone could be masquerading as the hobbyist.

It allows a lady to know you are legitimate without going even further into your personal information, such as employment, etc.

Are you saying providers never google their mongers? If I use rs2k,  
she has my full name, city/state and mobile. If she googled, the first  
result is LinkedIn with my employment history. Third or fourth result
is my home address.  Not very safe for me from my perspective if some
one other than her obtained that information like uncle Leo or a would
be pimp.

If you want to play with a certain woman, you have to play by her rules. That is a long accepted rule and practice in the hobby. Just like there's no crying in baseball, there is no crying about screening. If you don't like a certain provider's method, then move along. Once you get acclimated to that, the hobby is a blast.

I believe the point of all this is that mongers have a choice as to screening. If a girl/agency doesn't use a screening service that you feel safe with -- move on. Lots of fishies in the water.  I prefer p411 - no lack of hotties listed as choices including what's on the menu!!!

Absolutely, but I'm just saying that it defeats the purpose a little bit because couldn't the same be accomplished with a unique ID number and a phone number? If I give you my RS2K ID number and phone number, and you go check it out and it comes back verified, wouldn't that give you the same security that I am legitimate? Then again, maybe not....... I guess I could get RS2K verified and then give out my ID number and phone number to friends/others that don't want to get verified. Hmmmm...... just seems like such a rare situation to protect against but I can understand it.

Absolutely! If you don't like it, then move on! There are plenty of options, including providers with incredibly limited to zero screening required.

P411 is the shits!  I've made contact thru pm (model Austin) or was verified by sweeties such as model material Anastasiya (about to download but drop dead gorgeous at 8 months but that's another story or should I say review) or the beautiful Allyssa. I either contacted the ladies thru pm or provided my code which is unique and was verified. My last name was never part of the screening process.  My email is just for mongering and I have a burner.  I feel protected - at least anonymous to a degree. And that's the way I'd like to keep it!

Thanks for the info! The p411 screening process you described definitely sounds preferable. I'll have to look more into it. And you raised very valid points with your last reply as well. Full name + city (especially for those like me with a unique first and last name) gives someone more than enough info to google and search and find out all types of personal info in seconds.

I thought ONLY RS2K had your personal info. and the provider never saw it, like with P411? Is this NOT correct?

Yep, that is not correct. Here are the RS2K directions.......

With P411, they give it to GINA, and that is it. Provider never knows unless she is one who demands personal info. regardless of prior verification. I would never use a screening site that made me still provide my damn name...I can do that on my own.

Everyone has choices they can make, and since he chooses to use RS2K, that is the method that is used. RS2K has been around longer than anyone else, including P411 and Datecheck, and they do things a certain way for a reason. In Chicago, RS2K is the gold standard. It doesn't deserve the derision or negative posts that it is receiving here today. The person running that site knows the hobby inside/out and this particular community even better. There is no one smarter than this person in the hobby community, and yes I know that for a fact. Consider that Cook County has the MOST dedicated vice unit in the country, and you can then understand why RS2K is so successful. The members are safe. The providers who use it are safe. The only time that changes is when someone doesn't follow protocol and gets pinched for it. Some hobbyists don't take the time to thoroughly check out that girl on Eros who SAYS she is an RS2K provider, and then get the bad news on arrival. Some providers get desperate near the end of a less than successful tour, and take a chance on a sincere sounding person claiming to be a RS2K hobbyist who's info doesn't check out with RS2K. Same friggin result.

Did you ever consider a situation where a provider was assaulted outside of her incall and her money, cellphone and computer stolen. She reported the theft to le who didn't due anything ( we all probably can surmise why). The next thing you know you're receiving strange emails that rise to the nature of blackmail. Would providing rs2k credentials to a provider that didn't delete help/hinder you? You can decide if this is a true story or not.

No way in hell I'm giving out my real name or DL to any provider. Like that other guy did, I googled my name and my professional information was the first hit. What an easy way to get blackmailed by some bat shit crazy provider!