I posted this in the wrong message board. I need to know what is proper for tipping?  At a restaurant it is 18%, right?  How much for a provider in this hobby and when do you tip(in the beginning with the donation or at the end)?  Should I mention that my tip is based on performance?  Would that be rude

Most girls love tips. It can go either way...If you tip in the beginning you may have a better time.  If you tip at the end it's always a super nice surprise!  

i usually never tip..i tipped a lady only once and she had the gall to ask for it the second time i saw her..that left a bitter taste in my mouth..tipping should be a kind gesture on the client's part..and should never be expected or asked for by the provider..

The best tip is being a repeat client.  If the provider keeps bringing up something about a tip, it is a sure way to get me not to return.

I don't know how to say this without sounding "cheap".  When your paying the prices that the "provider" is charging nowadays ($500+), I usually tend to think the tip is built in.

I always say the the rate includes tip and travel.  It's not expected but is always nice. Especially for agency girls.  

totally agree with SP on the 2 hour minimum..i can usually talk to the provider into booking me for one hour which is really all i need..if they do not budge..i do not book them..providers need to be accommodating to their clients..coming across as a " money grabber " will sour the palates of most prospective clients..

it's always nice when someone does, whatever the reason, whatever the amount.  

Yes, 2+ hour minimums are a major turn-off.  If I see that, I don't even bother with that lady.  It's not about the money, although it does seem like a cash grab.  No, it's that my schedule rarely allows me to get away for more than an hour.  Ladies, be more accommodating.

Folks employed in the   service  industries, ie: wait staff, bartenders,bell hops, the concierge, and the like.
when a person charges, $200 +/he...like a lawyer, Dr, and other professionals, tipping is unnecessary.
No one here will argue that Providers are the highest paid per hr. In many respects rightfully so
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When have you tipped Your Atty?

Regarding 2 hour minimums... ladies have different styles, like certain types of clients, and a two hour minimum will get them those types of clients. I like to have some mental stimulation/connection with the client during an appointment. I perform better, have more fun, thus giving the client a better experience in as well. (A client can usually tell when a provider really is enjoying themselves.) I do know ladies who love the one hour appointments... and dread the longer ones... because they like the sex and really don't like when men build too much of a connection with them. It can be draining for some.

Some excellent points, but I think we all understand the reason for using the term "donation." As for the 2-hour minimum, that is a business decision left to the sole discretion of the provider, and can be instituted for any number of reasons besides pure greed. I have absolutely no insight into how a provider thinks, but if I could imagine stepping into their shoes, I personally would rather see one client for 2 hours at $700, then see two client's for an hour each at $400. I have been vey fortunate to meet a few women who obviously have spent time preparing for our meetings both physically and emotionally to ensure that my personal experience was exceptional and memorable. Seeing as how each client is uniquely different in appearance, manner, and tastes, I would think it would be a daunting task for the provider to be a human chameleon able to satisfy everyone's intimate fantasies. In the long run, this is truly an unregulated system and the market will tell whether the provider's decion to set parameters on her sessions is fruitful. There is no dearth of excellent providers from which to choose from.

Some more excellent points! As for the ladies out there monitoring this thread, wouldn't you find a gift to be a more thoughtful and considerate expression of a client's gratitude. If not, and extra monetary compensation is preferred, perhaps Snake hit it right on the head.

I completely understand the 2hr minimum as why some ask for that.  Why?  Because I will correlate it to as you were using the restaurant likeness that you used before for servers.

how do you know what to get? lol

But definitely APPRECIATED!!!

Ok, I know that I am a provider so one would think I wouldn't agree with you guys. But I agree with what both of you guys' said. (Mac and Snake) Maybe I have different opinions because I've been on both sides of the fence. I have been a waitress and I have been a provider. As providers, we make more per hour than some doctors, lawyers, etc. I never expect a tip, but if someone gives me one I am always grateful. I think tipping is meant for the providers that blow your mind, or do something special that they wouldn't normally do. I feel like as a provider, I am a part of the "service" industry, and in customer service you are usually taught to treat your loyal customers well.  

I find that there strong points on both sides.  

I don't ask for tips nor do I expect them, I charge what I charge and that's n that. if a client wants to or can he will ladies. if he doesn't then he doesnt

When I started 9 months ago, my minimum was two hours and it was strictly based on my comfort level. Maybe I'm just not cut out for the "wham bam" dates, but I can promise you that greed never entered into that at all. I just can't picture myself dropping to my knees the second a guy walks in the door. I feel like it's much more enjoyable for both parties if we can establish at least some semblance of a connection. Plus I just genuinely enjoy meeting knew people. I've learned so much about the human condition just by talking with my clients. Every one of them fascinates me.  

Services are materially not as advertised or if she tries to end the session early.

But I have tipped a couple of times. And those are the times when it was really fantastic. I mean, the provider really delivered the goods and I was left very very happy!

I always have, just seems appropriate.  I guess it is driven by the experience.

"The best tip is being a repeat client".  Holds true for any service oriented industry.

but when I do, I tip Dos Equis.  Sorry, couldn't resist.

If a provider is pissed at not getting tipped in addition to her fee, she should raise her rates. I would prefer a newbie turned regular over one hundred dollar tip from him. None of my regs tip me, but they do buy me gifts and I also give them OTC time. It all evens out. I am amazed at some women who expect both gifts and tips, but all hell breaks loose if you are even there 15 min. over your time. I think it works both ways.

Exactly!

In the past when I would meet a provider for the first time I would want to give her a little tip - token of satisfaction if you will - so I would give something I thought would be universally liked - a $25 Starbucks gift card. And that usually would put a smile on her face. This worked nicely a few times, however with one gal she didn't really show appreciation for my gesture, which irked me afterwards. I didn't say anything to her at that moment, but I haven't repeated with her either, because of it. And since then I've stopped tipping unless its for a gal that I'm seeing more than once. Again, just chiming in with my experience.

1) I went for a massage for a $160 flat fee (no tipping expected). The girl gave me the most amazing body to body massage!!! She worked her ass off for the entire duration of my session and turned it into one of my most memorable experiences. It was amazing! I figured the agency or person running the place probably took a pretty hefty cut of the fee so I tipped $50..... and regret not tipping more (she no longer works).