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Re: caution for everyone
chubcub 903 reads
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The streetwalkers were less likely to be beaten by johns? Because working with a pimp often means being beaten by one guy instead of ten. From what I can tell, violence against those unfortunate souls tends to split evenly between pimps and johns. The Freakonomics guys caught a fair amount of criticism for a very generous view of pimps and how they work their trade. I'm not talking about agencies, to be clear.

I'm not wrong, although I may not have explained my point well. if a hobbyist wants to reduce risk, he should screen as much as he can. Look at reviews, consider where the provider is advertising, the location of the provider, and whether the provider screens. All I have is anecdotal information from newspapers and the board, but screening seems to reduce the likelihood of running into a violent provider or her violent acquaintance.

And Sin is right. A provider that doesn't screen is taking a lot of chances. I just know that when I see a headline about a woman being murdered, I don't think you should jump to a conclusion about whether it is a pimp or a john.  

A woman, with a history of prostitution, was found stabbed to death next to a bloody knife in a River North boutique hotel early Tuesday, authorities said. Police are reviewing security camera footage and interviewing persons of interest after her body was found shortly after midnight with multiple stab wounds at the Felix Hotel at 111 W. Huron. An autopsy Tuesday found that she suffered multiple stab and incise wounds and her death was ruled a homicide, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office. Xxxxx, 31, was a former model and mother of five whose life had unravelled in recent years, her estranged husband said via phone from his Minneapolis home. She had travelled to Chicago with two Minnesota women, likely to work as prostitutes, he said as he fought back tears. … Court records show she was arrested for prostitution in St. Louis in 2004.

This is horrible. Which just reminds me that if people could be in the open about this lifestyle it would be much safer for everyone.

And they catch this guy soon.  I think we all forgot that this can happen .  This reinforces the need for screening .It irks me when gents try to avoid it.  Who knows if she screened him or not.  My prayers and thoughts go out to her 5 children who will never see her again


"Area police agencies take part in nationwide prostitution sting"

Legalization and regulation would make things much safer for everyone.

Last week's Reader has another article on the legal hot potato of legalizing marijuana.  Can you imagine the fight it would be to decriminalize and then license and legalize prostitution?  It would kill Tom Dart's fake campaign issue immediately.  

Posted By: asdf471
"Area police agencies take part in nationwide prostitution sting"

Legalization and regulation would make things much safer for everyone.  

Harassing providers and hobbyists is all that career politician knows how to do, if prostitution was legalized he'd be lucky to get a job as the prison janitor.

I think the whole community should be vigilant in watching their asses even more than before.  Screening is going to be tighter and hotel personnel will be a little more watchful and your Goddamn straight LE is going to use this as leverage for more sting operations.

I feel so horrible for her this woman's loved ones - what a horrible way to die...

Be safe everyone.

XXX-Giselle

Here is the link to the article.


Links that contain personal info especially pictures are not allowed here. Providers and hobbyist go to great lengths to hide their identity. We will respect that here.

Fugly

-- Modified on 10/12/2011 8:45:48 AM

Links to the article have been allowed on other boards.  In fact, a TER mod even shared one.

I understand discretion, but this gal is dead.  How does keeping her identity secret hurt anyone now?  Especially since her ex husband even states she was a provider.

Fugly1029 reads



-- Modified on 10/14/2011 12:39:21 PM

Posted By: Sinful1
A woman, with a history of prostitution, was found stabbed to death next to a bloody knife in a River North boutique hotel early Tuesday, authorities said. Police are reviewing security camera footage and interviewing persons of interest after her body was found shortly after midnight with multiple stab wounds at the Felix Hotel at 111 W. Huron. An autopsy Tuesday found that she suffered multiple stab and incise wounds and her death was ruled a homicide, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office. Xxxxx, 31, was a former model and mother of five whose life had unravelled in recent years, her estranged husband said via phone from his Minneapolis home. She had travelled to Chicago with two Minnesota women, likely to work as prostitutes, he said as he fought back tears. … Court records show she was arrested for prostitution in St. Louis in 2004.

chubcub1103 reads

This is a horrible story. Safety should be of the utmost importance to everyone. The most violent person in a provider's life is often a pimp, a boyfriend, or a "co-worker." Hobbyists would do well to remember that screening is a two way street.  

Posted By: chubcub
This is a horrible story. Safety should be of the utmost importance to everyone. The most violent person in a provider's life is often a pimp, a boyfriend, or a "co-worker." Hobbyists would do well to remember that screening is a two way street.  

Actually that's not true.  According to Superfreakonomics when they tracked the activities of street prostitutes, they found that sex workers with pimps were less likely to be beaten.  Now that's just one study but it does make sense.

Frequently at least on the street scene that some guys if they have erectile issues will take it out on the sex worker.  It happens a lot less if the guy knows the worker has a pimp.

chubcub904 reads

The streetwalkers were less likely to be beaten by johns? Because working with a pimp often means being beaten by one guy instead of ten. From what I can tell, violence against those unfortunate souls tends to split evenly between pimps and johns. The Freakonomics guys caught a fair amount of criticism for a very generous view of pimps and how they work their trade. I'm not talking about agencies, to be clear.

I'm not wrong, although I may not have explained my point well. if a hobbyist wants to reduce risk, he should screen as much as he can. Look at reviews, consider where the provider is advertising, the location of the provider, and whether the provider screens. All I have is anecdotal information from newspapers and the board, but screening seems to reduce the likelihood of running into a violent provider or her violent acquaintance.

And Sin is right. A provider that doesn't screen is taking a lot of chances. I just know that when I see a headline about a woman being murdered, I don't think you should jump to a conclusion about whether it is a pimp or a john.  

mytzlplx1187 reads

This is not why you screen this is not some random jon(keep screening) who did this she was on her way home that nite. she only did this to get money to get her kids back and provide for them and felt she had no other option 5 beautiful kids she knew the attacker and the police were phoned from her hotel room this was an angry passion killing I spoke to her sister just after id-ing her body the brutality insured a closed casket the time and anger it takes to kill in this way plus the in room call says it all "you are not leaving" but one of the other ladies must have felt that what happend was wrong thank god ! I am a good friend of the young lady and her children I am following the case too please try to keep the facts straight please!

Hey there sorry for your loss, my prayers go out to u and her family, im very sorry again this is sad. Just 1 curious question if u know.? Was he a john or friend? or pimp? Im really confused and as a independent  provider very worried on taking calls.?
Please help?

Thank you so much for posting this!

I recently came to Chicago and had SEVERAL gents want to see me  without any sort of verification. It was a bit ridiculous!

Be safe everyone :)

A Lincoln Park man was charged today in the slaying of a LaCrosse, Wisc., woman found stabbed to death in a boutique hotel this week, police said.

Xxxxxxxc 23, has been charged with first-degree murder and soliciting for a prostitute in connection with the slaying of Saxxxxxxxx, 31, police said in a news release

-- Modified on 10/13/2011 8:39:03 PM

Here's a link to the WI board where the moderator there has allowed a link to the news article.

Kudos to moderator "From 85003" for having common sense.  Protecting the identity of a murder is ludicrous in my opinion... I don't care if he was a hobbyist.

Just because a new moderator on a new board has made a mistake doesn't mean we will here on this board. I will say it again. Providers go to great length to hide their true identity.  We will respect that here. Until I am instructed from admin that this policy has change I will respect that decision and enforce here.
Persistence on your part to violate a rule that has published previously on this board has managed to get you moderated.

Fugly

-- Modified on 10/14/2011 10:10:00 AM

the news say for soliciting prostitution so I think he was a pimp.

chubcub1299 reads

It says soliciting for a prostitute, so I think you are right.

Xxxxxxx's pimp and her friend found her dead about an hour later, according to court filings.

chubcub1154 reads

The trib articlle has been updated with details now also.

All it's gonna do is get you banned. Besides, if someone wants to read more the story is all over the news. Use Google is you want details and save yourself the hassle.

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