Covering the expenses is always expected.  Paying for her time is usually also part of the deal.

I'm planning a trip to the Virigin Islands at the end of January. Can anyone recommend a provider that would be interested in joining me on an all expense paid trip in exchange for essentially a week of GFE? The details are pretty enticing! I have a luxury yacht with four bedrooms, each has it's own private bathroom. I have a full crew including cook and all of our meals are prepared for us. I've invited two friends so there will be two other couples on the boat. I will pay for all expenses - meals, entertainment, air fare etc. In return I would want GFE. Please reply or PM me any suggestions. Thanks!

-- Modified on 12/26/2012 11:52:54 AM

Seriously? You might find someone just desperate to escape winter, but to pay nothing but expenses?

Surely you jest.

ctp - good point and i know that's typically expected. i'm guessing there's got to be a provider that would really like the idea of going some place warm and living like a queen for a week and that would be the exchange. sure would beat the alternative of staying here in the cold if someone was looking to take a week from work. my alternative is to take a fwb but i think this would be more fun.

-- Modified on 12/26/2012 12:05:18 PM

...if you can provide all of these other luxurious things, you clearly shouldn't have any trouble covering a lady's time donation. In fact, most providers will work out a heavy discount for a solid week's booking.

For perspective: Would you walk into a Doctor's office, announce that you are fully equipped at your private residence, & try to bring a Doc over to work on you for no compensation?

Not very respectful or enticing, IMO.

But the issue is - I'd still be paying for expenses at home, and no matter how much fun I was having, I'd still be giving up a week of income.

Maybe if he'd be willing to pay the equivalent of all declined booking inquiries for that week?

You want a girl to come with you on a trip n be your "sex slave" n pretend girlfriend n interact w two other couples in relatively close quarters for a week!  

Marrie will do it for about 10 thousand dollars and you absolutely pay all expenses!  And... For an additional 8, tell ur two friends to leave their girls at home n she will take care of them too n all u guys will be weak in the knees after a week w her around.

Now u might ask... does she make 10k a week n of course the answer is no but she isnt locked on a yaht n at someones beck n call 24/7 at home!  Let us know!

A full week of being "on" with someone who you have never met before -- not even for 1 hour, no compensation, and losing out on paid engagements...

Sounds like this should be a question best reserved for a sugar baby or your "ATF".

Now, if you know that this offer is something even your ATF would not accept let alone you would even think of presenting to her, you might need to reevaluate your offer.

It never hurts to ask, but when you ask a paid companion (whether you have seen her or not) for essentially an unpaid engagement, I hope you will not be surprised when the answer is no.

I do hope you well on your vacation, but I suggest remembering the expectations in P4P..

Adriana

-- Modified on 12/26/2012 1:45:43 PM

Have anyone that's not an asshole that can respond to posts on a public board? You really come off as abrasive and rude. I'm sure there's someone else there that can handle public relations.

This is a crass and cynical response. I'm not looking for a sex slave, that's a disgusting and inappropriate insinuation. I'm asking a really simple question, not looking for drama like this.

A vacation is about having fun, exploring, have some quiet time and enjoying some great weather. I've never looked at a girl friend as a sex slave and I'm absolutely not looking for that in this situation. Don't turn my request into something it's not. I'm a good looking, clean, sane and normal guy. How many times would two people naturally have sex on a vacation? Sounds like you need a vacation more than me.

To keep this thread on track, no thanks. I have no interest in Marrie (an agency) or turning our trip into some sort of weird orgy as you propose. This type of arrangement is obviously geared toward an independent and I'm sure there's a girl that would look at this as a fantastic opportunity. So, if anyone is interested, or would like to propose something, please let me know.

Let me explain.

First off, you are trying to do this with someone who you have never met before? Think about it for a moment - you are asking a lady to agree to be locked up in close quarters for a week with a group of people she has never met. Even if she might entertain it if it is some place she wants to go and the accomadations were truly luxurious, it is a pretty big leap of faith.

Secondly, and this is not totally unrelated to the first but it is different - your idea of entertainment and hers are likely to be quite different. Trust me on this - a perfect day of fun for most providers would not be the same as a perfect day for most clients, even if we assume that it could still be a fun day with a client involved at all. So what you are offering is not likely to be mostly fun for her, even if it is fun.

Third, she will be working almost all of the time. It may seem easy to be happy, sexy and into all of us, but it is definitely work. Asking her to work for a week at no charge for someone she does not know? Hardly an attractive offer.

Fourth, she needs to trust you enough to make this leap.

Best to approach ladies you know and seem to get along well with, and ask them if they will consider doing this, and under what terms. And if there is no one you know and would invite, perhaps you should get busy making new friends - the smart, interesting and very charming ladies who are posting here would be a good start since in such a situation you will want someone who can carry on a good conversation as much or more than someone who delights you BCD. As it happens, I know a couple of them are quite delightful in just that way.

Good luck,
zig

Remember when they went by MTA, they (he) were (was) the same way back then too.  Nothing changed but the name.  I'd never book with them (him or any other version), on a boat, or in a house, just based on them (him) being such an ass here.

Your initial post referred to GFE a couple of times at least.  What exactly did u mean by that?  I mean, this is TER and on this board, that does not mean that she plays a killer game of rummy now does it?  So what exactly is it u are looking for.... A rummy partner or a GFE based on our standards around here?  Also, pleanty of "independents" have responded n maybe in a little nicer more feminine way have said the same thing.... They are not interested in being your being your private "GFE" for a week  basically for free cuz they get back after a week with the same money they started with.  

What I was saying is that u need to go to match dot com for that and find a girlfriend, not a GFE!!!!

I think the key here is "ATF." That means someone you already know and have built up some sort of rapport, trust, and chemistry with.

Now, if I were to attempt to cut some such deal, I would offer reasonable concessions towards BCD time.  Now, I for one have no expectations of BCD-all-the-time. I think at a MINIMUM you give her the one-hour rate x number of days, travel time inclusive; the assumption being this is a luxury travel arrangement, everything top-notch, AND you really hit it off with said ATF to the point where she's asking you when you're going to see her again for reasons in addition to the money. (IOW, she's getting plenty of business, but would rather see you for, say, half, as an example.)

One can request PM's or one can post anonymous, but they can't do both.  Sorry. =)

I agree with the person who said that this is something that you would request of someone who was already an ATF.  A week-long trip is one where one wants to be sure that there's already strong mutual respect and chemistry.

I also agree with those who say that this is something where some additional negotiation is to be considered to compensate for the companion's time.

Taking a cruise with your GF - fun for both.

Taking a cruise with a companion - fun for you, work for her.

What you are seeking will require any lady to be "on" 24 hours a day for seven days in a row.  Not just in sexual way but in emotional way as well.

Not only she would have to make you feel like you are having a blast, she would be constantly watched by your friends and their ladies.  Considering that you will be traveling on a yacht, there is no room for her to have any time alone what so ever.

If anything, trip like that, even with someone a lady knows very well would require extra, not no donation.

I personally would not take a trip like that with anyone unless people involved were ALL well known to me.  Including friends of my date and their GFs.

Aliases can be PM'd....by two ways.  You can copy and paste their alias name in the "To:" box, or just click on their alias name.  Being able to click on an alias name in order to PM someone is a fairly new addition on TER.

.....no income coming in sounds um not so bueno.

Agree with Lina don't confuse GFE with GF.

-- Modified on 12/26/2012 10:46:10 PM

sounds like a bullshit come-on to me..if i had a luxury yacht and that kind of dough..i sure wouldnt advertise on TER..maybe its Charlie Sheen..

Dinner date, playtime etc....I get that.

But to take a provider on a vacation and pay her to hang out with you makes no sense to me. Best of luck my man.

Yep, have to agree this might be better suited for an ATF. Thanks though, mostly good feedback, of course with the few idiots that have to chime in and provide nothing constructive.

just PM my girl EC and she what she thinks...she will want a 100k to even think about it..a sucker is born every minute..these ladies are not one of them..

yep..all bullshit..

what the three of you thinks?  I have worked with and introduced some of the better girls in the Chicago area over the last 10 years.  You 3- guys combined have not brought 1-single review to this community.  The girls I have worked with have generated probably 1000 reviews!  I have had guys like you get on here n try to discredit me for years n yet here I still stand!  

So....who cares what u have to say n whether you use our service or not, we move on!

You wouldn't be so quick to post a comment like you did.

There are plenty of HDH gals that will be happy to do a gig like this.  But then they also are in a position to take a week off and not be so concerned about making rent on the 1st.

The gals who need (have to) work in order to cover the rent and lease car payments...this isn't a gig for them.  But there are some who will still find a way to make a gig like this happen  LOL

Honestly...it amazes me the drivel that permeates these boards at times.  And the incompetence of the johns and the hookers that flat out lie what they would and wouldn't do.

And mac...if you really knew any gals well...as I said above...this transaction is not as uncommon as you make it out to be...or the hookers make it out to be.

But generally it isn't publicized here...and for good reasons  

....just for the sake of someone paying for a trip I could pay for and they plan to be getting some "lovin'" out of the deal too.

Eh.

-- Modified on 12/26/2012 10:41:11 PM

Time is money my friend.........

Mark my words, you can treat her all you want with fancy dinners and what have you, but don't be foolish to think that once the panties hit the floor, the envelope best be on the counter.

I'd love to flame you in a reply but the words would fall on deaf ears and the post would probably get pulled. Suffice it to say, you don't know what you're talking about or who is reading these threads. You actually do yourself and your girls more harm than good with every post.

Have a Great Holiday Season!

   Mike from SimplyGFE, MTA, or whatever you want to call yourself next you are the least credible person on this board.  Sometimes you say your name is Mike, sometimes you say your not and Mike is retired.  Sometimes you rip on people who offer specials, sometimes you offer them.  You attack people for not writing reviews, and then you attack people who write poor reviews of your girls.   You never did give a crredible explanation for  changing of the name of your agency and the deception of who is running it.  I could go on and on, but I think I have made my point

-- Modified on 12/27/2012 8:56:44 AM

Never booked with him when he was MTA and will never book in future.

You are wrong.  Just booked a couple calls and both guys were asking me what this guy axxel"s problem.  Told them you are probably some guy that did not clear my screening n is still salty.  Just guessing cuz really I have no clue what ur problem is.  I do know that for over 4-5 years now you have been preaching the same crap on here n yet here we are or I am still so somebody on here likes what I bring to the table even if u don't!

Anyway...have a wonderful Holiday Season!

thats funny..
"locked on a yacht"  PLEASE, NO!!!

this is an all expense paid vacation.  should be worth at least $1500-2000.  he doesnt want GFE 24/7. this is a vacation w/ benefits.  i agree, there should be some time compensation, but it should be minimal, imo.  $10k is absurd.  i wouldnt be surprised if you lost clients based on that post.

first and fourth is the same advice  so its just 3 reasons.  good ones though

i agree w/ you.

And right you are Simple. I've been reading his posts with more and more disgust. Mostly I'm the forgive and forget type and have read enough good reviews of his two gals to spark interest, but after reading his nonsense last night, that's it. I for one will never use his service. And before anyone tries to cleverly point out that I have no reviews and therefore I somehow have no right to post an opinion, I have plenty, just none under this username.
About 6 months back, this clown did to me what he did to the original poster of this thread. I asked a question and he has to give some b.s. response, smacking of sarcasm and condescension. And not just him, a couple of other douchebags as well - ones who act like this board is their own personal forum.
What is really striking, though, and really says alot, is the number of people who've posted in support of him. The silence is deafening.

Take Angels 8- hour  all day shopping special and multiply by 3 (3600) n multiply that by 7 (25,200) throw a 50%  discount on it (12,600) and then deduct 2600 that he is going to spend ....MAYBE... On airfare, food etc... and u are at 10k.  

Now assuming this is  his yaght, she would be taking on the role of hostess for the week with two other couples n mainly women, following her lead etc...  provide him.with a gfe which he is very clear about  in his original post which on this board refers to what goes on behind closed doors.  Since he is not specific regarding how much of this is required, lets guess once a night and maybe a few morning "wood" excursions and in between, a night in bed together times 7!

You may not like my rate which is ok but look at his rate real carefully.  I gave him 2600 in expenses but realistically u can fly round trip for under a grand and he is not payin nething extra for the bed.  Sounds like the crew only has to provide an extra plate per meal n even if they go out to dinner every night, most of these girls dont eat like cows bu lets just throw 50 at each meal times 7 which is 350.  So, realistically his rate is a little more than Angels 8 hour at 1200 for an entire week as described above.  

Really?  I think and so far the response has shown on here that most agree with me.  I threw 10 grand out there.  Some might find that high n some low believe it or not!  But most will agree that what he is offering is absurd.  But hey,  I hope he finds it!

would be to contact a lady you have seen before that has a reasonable gifting and that you enjoy your time with not only under the covers but in conversation that has similar likes to you.  Offer to take her on the trip and ask if she would require added compensation.  

Keep in mind if you do not offer added compensation that what you may get is a GF expeience not the GFE experience.  We are in fact compensated for being on our A Game and for desiring you when you desire us this is refered to as GFE and will of course require added $, it may be as little as 1,000 a day which is less then most ladies overnights and a generous offer.  Keep in mind even I could not offer that low a gifting if I wanted to since I have responsibility at home that do not allow me to go away on my own without added $ not that I am greedy but if you take me away from my family I should be compensated.  Hence why I do not travel with guests often, not that I would not like to I just can't be overly generous with my time.

However if no actual $$ crosses our hands and she is just getting a free vacation then what you may get is a GF expeience.  Which means much like a girlfriend she will do as she pleases.  She isn't being comped so she may drink till she gets drunk and puke on the floor, she may snore and feel she is not in the mood.  I knew of one lady who did this and she ended up resenting and black listing the guy for pushing for more services then she felt she should have to comp for, the trip was about 1500 and darn it she was only going to provide that much in services, wanted him to just leave her alone otherwise...  

Personally I would not enter into something like this unless I either knew or had screened all parties involved including the other couples in case, had a financial agreement in place and collected it before I left on the trip, and knew the gent prior to know I could handle a whole week with him.  Why?  Because in past there have been issues with providers/GF leaving the country with gentlemen and not ever making it back, no one knows what happened to them and that is crazy.  There have also been instances where gents knew what the compensation should have been yet several days in when they are making sure the lady gets her funds they explain they are only giving them this month because of all the $$ out of pocket for the trip, NOT COOL.  

I am a single mom so different things apply to me, I couldn't go on a trip like this without compensation because though I could take a couple weeks off if I really wanted I would do it where I could take my kid and enjoy my time away from the biz.  Going away with a guest even if he is wonderful is still taking me away from my kid and other opportunities to pay off(not just pay on them) my bills.  I wouldn't say what we do is work, but it certainly does take a certain type of person to do what we do and do it well.  For that we are compensated.  Some are more able or willing to do for less, some of us are not for one reason or another.  

However for those of you who look down on those of us for asking for compensation in an instance such as this, keep in mind....  You ALWAYS get what you pay for in this industry.  A vacation just isn't a vacation unless you are just about best friends with the guest and even then we are providers and not your girlfriend, you will get what you pay for.  Take care and I wish you the best of luck...

BTW, the only time I have ever heard of this working well was when it was a place the lady wanted to go and the guest got a hugely reduced gifting for taking her there at her suggestion.

Take care, Sage

That's a remarkable coincidence that you just happened to get a "couple calls" about what "axxel's problem" (is). That wreaks of B.S. You're ridiculous GFEO1, your posts here out of line and there's no doubt that what you put out here in the public domain is a direct reflection of how you run your business. I'm among the many others that would never give you business, if for no other reason than because of how you've responded to everyone in this message chain.

companion persona.  And as REAL women we can be just as much pain in the ass as the real GF

Lina

Or so I hear  

Just had a chat today with a gal regarding this topic.  As I said above...plenty of gals would go for this gig.  The real question which you are NOW addressing...will she maintain her hooker persona for the whole week.

Me thinks NOT  

Posted By: dddbabe

companion persona.  And as REAL women we can be just as much pain in the ass as the real GF

Lina

In less eloquent way - would I ever agree  to spend a week on some freaking boat surrounded by buncha people I donno and having to put up with two other bitches for free?  NE VA.

Now, if I were going with one of my "boy toys" on a week long trip with buncha like minded adults whose company i enjoy on not just intellectual but  physical level as well - in a heart bit!  Especially if there were bear paws involved lol

On serious note.  Most ladies that can afford to take a week off work can afford to pay their own expenses.  To me the real issue here is that OP is asking a provider to do very tough gig for no money.

If he were saying "I am going to Cannes during film festival time and will provide the lady with her own room in a very very very big house, she will be free to spend most of the time as she chooses, I pay all expenses, provide passes to premiers and access to fun parties and in return she will agree to see me for BCD fun for X hours a day" I am pretty sure more than one girl would have responded with PICK ME immediately.

Given overall responses on this thread, girls prefer Chicago in JANUARY to his cruise.  Nuff said

Some of the shit I sell in my store literally has me go "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? people actually USE this?"

And I am pretty sure some of the stuff I like would have many folks raise their eye brows as well.  

Question is whether or not this trip will work out to everyone's satisfaction.  I got my doubts about it. Being stuck on a boat with company one does not really enjoy can be trouble.

I remember my last cruise with my ex.  So do 1998 passengers and 1000 members of the crew. I think that captain of that boat still having nightmares lol

And perhaps some gal would like this guys gig.  As a matter of fact...I know there are gals who like this guys gig.

And as you confirmed, if the "trip" was one that tickled your fancy...you would go as well.

That was my whole thrust on this...everyone has their agenda.  And if this one fits someones...away they go.

The responses here represent such a small insignificant segment of the total that it's so skewed to as be uninformative.

The one's interested aren't posting here...they're sending him PM's and emails.

Posted By: dddbabe

In less eloquent way - would I ever agree  to spend a week on some freaking boat surrounded by buncha people I donno and having to put up with two other bitches for free?  NE VA.

Now, if I were going with one of my "boy toys" on a week long trip with buncha like minded adults whose company i enjoy on not just intellectual but  physical level as well - in a heart bit!  Especially if there were bear paws involved lol

On serious note.  Most ladies that can afford to take a week off work can afford to pay their own expenses.  To me the real issue here is that OP is asking a provider to do very tough gig for no money.

If he were saying "I am going to Cannes during film festival time and will provide the lady with her own room in a very very very big house, she will be free to spend most of the time as she chooses, I pay all expenses, provide passes to premiers and access to fun parties and in return she will agree to see me for BCD fun for X hours a day" I am pretty sure more than one girl would have responded with PICK ME immediately.

Given overall responses on this thread, girls prefer Chicago in JANUARY to his cruise.  Nuff said

Who said that the yacht is his?  He may be just an invited guest there by someone who is well off enough to arrange this trip.

CPA - You are definitely right on all accounts with this message!

go to the local strip club... hang out for a couple nights find an interesting girl and if your as clean cut as you say you are should be a problem getting one to go with.... you might not get laid but who knows

I think this posting is a fake! First, how in the world a guy who has a yacht with a full service crew can take a GFE on a long trip like this without seeing her for at least three or four times to be sure that he is very comfortable with her and that there will be no surprises. Second, I cannot imagine a guy who really has this type of luxury would hesitate for a minute about compensating very generously a provider that will be with him on such a vacation. Sorry, things just do not seem to add up!

Keep his mouth shut and stay neutral.  After all, thats how you get and obtain new business.

I did write more and then I deleted because I realized that he's not worth my time nor energy.

I like yourselves gentleman, because of his holier-than-thou, arrogant and self-absorbed attitude. I will NEVER use his service, acknowledge his service nor EVER entertain the thought of recommending his service to anyone, not even to my worst enemy.

Simply you have managed to piss people off, insult them and treat them like shit.  Your a rude man.

I don't HAVE to brag about how much business I do in this industry be writing reviews, those that know me are what counts {From Chicago Rose (in her hey-day which also, I m still close to her) to Nick to the majority of the veteran Indies that are around}.  You wish you had my business and on the flip side I wish I could GIVE you my business but, I NEVER will because your such a idiot.

Only if you were smart enough to realize how much business your tossing away by being such a jackass out here.  Wake up!!!!  Try being nice but, I don't think it's in your miserable, angry nature.

Your missing so much and so are your girls (and I'm talking about $$$$)

That's just my .02

SP

It smacks of "gold digging".  

Rich guys became rich by being frugal with what they spend money on.  Not giving it away for no reasons.

And when someone thinks that "the rich guy can afford it"...they also tend to think "the bastard is cheap because he isn't paying me more".  

Not going to change any opinions on here...but those who have money have it...while those who don't seem to be jealous.

Aren't you the gal that claimed to have received an SUV from some john as a Xmas present?  Was that guy cheap because it wasn't something else?

First off I have been a member of this community for 10 years and have 100+ reviews posted. I have seen a mix of providers from agencies and independents here in Chicago as well as in Vegas and elsewhere. I also have attended some group gatherings; remember Rock Bottom for you old timers.  I do not typically even comment on these flame wars but here are a few observations:

1) Most of the people flaming Simplygfe have few or no reviews to offer the community which seems a bit suspect.

2) Most doing the flaming have little or no whitelist referrals which again seems a bit suspect.

3) Have any of the flamers dealt with the person with whom they spewing their angst against for an appointment?

I have dealt with the folks at SimplyGFE in both of their incarnations. Service was prompt and effective, rates more than reasonable for the value, and the providers were ALL top-notch.

As for the individual that is being flamed as I read the board he is not politically correct and I applaud that. He calls it like he sees it.

As for you folks not wanting to patronize the lovely ladies it is your loss. I KNOW from personal experience.

Elrond

I guess I am not special?

Over the years there have been all kinds of posters...with their own agendas.  Some positive...some negative..some looking for real info.

How a handle decides to conduct itself doesn't mean crap to me.  But I know others see it as something else.  If you don't like what he says...put him on ignore.  Or do as you've done which is to stalk and troll his posts.

I've done the same when I felt that a handle had an agenda that was detrimental.  But I stick to my own beliefs on why I feel a poster is dangerous, and needs to be exposed.  If others find it informative...great.  If not, they move right along and ignore it.

So to answer your question...Mike's posts are indeed beneficial.  But only to those who give a shit about  this dangerous game we play.  I like those types of posters who are willing to go out there and "tell it like it is".

Which is why so many don't like CPA's posts  LOL

Fine...you and the other posters don't like Mike.  I get that.

Pick up the phone and call him..tell him with your own voice.  Better yet...meet up with him.

Or just sit here with TER handles that mean anonymity and attack him.

You are doing exactly what you are complaining Mike does.  What does that make YOU?

That is one reason why I'm glad that we're good friends. Some guys might not ever understand how things really are, but I think you said it as well as it could be said.

A cruise sounds pretty nice. I'll keep that in mind.  

You post on this board and I've seen you criticize others.  Do you pick up the phone and call them to let you know what you feel?  As someone who stresses the need to keep personal information private (and I agree with you), calling people up from this board, unless it's for an appointment, isn't recommended.  Isn't the point of this thing to remain anonymous?  I'n not sure I understand what's so bad about sharing our opinions here. Aren't you anonymous as well?

Look, in the end, I support Mike's right to run his business the way he wants to.  But we have the right not to want to use his service based on his conduct here.  Anyway, as I said, I try to stay away from the drama. There's not much more I can say that will positively contribute to anything here.  Feel free to have the last word.

Never invite Lina on a cruise, LMAO...

Good time to chime in here. I can't imagine being stuck on a boat for a week with a bunch of people I don't know. Hell, I hate going to parties where I don't know anyone and that's only a few hours where I have to pretend I'm enjoying myself until the point I'm drunk enough where anything is fun, lol. So here's my advice for any lady to decides to take him up on his offer - drink a lot and they'll all seem just wonderful. Make sure you stay tipsy for the entire week

And I was boisterous on here...you would also have my contact number (as are on SimplyGFE's website).  If you honestly feel that you can offer him something constructive how to run HIS business...do it that way.  And feel free to use YOUR hobby phone and remain anonymous.

BTW...the gals aren't interested in some johns perception of how she can improve her business as well!  But that doesn't stop so many uninformed johns from trying to tell them what's best for them  LOL

And just for your edification...I've not had a problem contacting a pimp if I have an issue with his/her agency and a gal I may have seen.  

But that's me...and not you.

And I did make comment on my post to Axxel that I have often been abrasive on these boards.  At least that is what I have been told by some. While many others appreciate my candor.  I have no interest in being the most popular fella here...as I am selling nothing.  The hookers need to be PC...I don't.  And not all agency owners either.  If a john doesn't like some hookers babble...or agency owners babble...just don't see them due to that.

Plenty of posts have turned me off to ever see the gal.  But I'm sure that there are equally as many who like the BS.  

And drama is part of this game we play.  It happens when others don't agree with other opinions.  BFD...it's all anonymous and to get anyones panties in a wad is just not smart.  Just roll with the game and have fun.  That's the really important part of these boards...or at least the way I tend to see them.  I don't know if that is part of the Chicago boards mission statement...I'll let Axxel tell me.

I will start by admitting to being less experienced than many on this board, but Elrond has been around for a lot longer.

My problem with some of the critics of GFE in this thread is that they are bitching largely about his posts, which just don't seem that bad to me, while their "real" problems with him seem based on other stuff.  The current ladies' reviews seem fine.

I have no idea if those criticisms about his general character  are valid or not.  

I dealt with Mike at MTA a few years ago.  I saw one of his ladies a few times.  He was pleasant and professional.  So was she.  Which proves very little, of course.

While whoever has been posting for Simply GFE can certainly be abrasive and dismissive of others' opinions, those posts provide even less proof of his alleged "scummy" nature.  I don't see people attacking the independent providers  who have posted on this thread and essentially agree with him.  If you don't like him , don't see those ladies, or call him out for something that's actually bad.

4 hours without means of escape sounds like a nihtmare to me

I hate to sound crass but your posting on a provider pay for  time site is insulting. Why would any provider want to spend time with someone who is a hobbyist on a play for time board with a man who joined to pay for free???? We can take ourselves on vacations and not have to be surrounded by a sperm whale with a black plastic card who is fully capable of paying taking a loss in her own area or any other area to spend time on a ya yacht  with some cheap person and his friends?  This post cracks me up . What do you think we are charity cases ? Poor wenches? Beggars? No it would not be fun it would be taking advantage of someone .

Angela

Responses like this make me roll my eyes because they are so narrowly one-sided. All this whining about "cheap" and
"taking advantage" of and blah, blah, blah! Give me a break!

A simple question was asked. It was completely appropriate to ask it in this forum and by any objective measure is a generous offer. Few people here, provider or hobbyists have the means or opportunity to take a trip like this.

Leave it to a forum like this to have a perfectly reasonable offer so grossly distorted and then have the dialog devolve into this type of craziness.

It's just my point of view. This site is a P4P site .He would be better off posting a personals ad on a dating site . If he had someone he sees regularly he should ask her but I see no reviews . I noticed he never once mentioned anything about contribution or any financial loss he can cover until it was suggested and then he replied with he guesses he can think about that or consider it.This is a time waste when someone has to "consider "  and people actually email providers letters like this that if not ended would go on for weeks . End results? He winds up thanking her for her emails but that he has to leave and since a fair price cannot be reached he wishes her well , a thank you and adios lol! There's just too much negotiating as it is in the community. And like Sage put it what if the two can't stand each others company after a week ?And what if she is never heard from again?  He is better off asking someone he knows . I certainly would not go on a boat with several other couples not knowing my date I would never  just up and leave with someone.And let us not forget about drugs people do on boats that are their own and the drugs on other islands.If you , Mr Diggler were liberal and had a daughter who was a provider what would you say to her in a case like this ?  

Angie

BUT...behind the scenes this is a VERY common deal for many gals.  Sometimes it is with a guy they've known for a while...and other times it's with a new guy.  Each gal has to set whatever is her comfort level.  Some have kids...others don't.  Which may also hinder a week away from home.

But the reality is that the OP asked a question looking for PM's.  I am sure he has received plenty of inquiry from gals...and it will be up to HIM to decide on the type of gal he would want to bring along.

If a gal is looking for money on this as some of the gals are suggesting...maybe he would pay them something...maybe not.  But to suggest that this would never happen is just NOT true.  And I have NO issues with a gal trying to get some money out of this...good for her.  But if the guy is seeking to just have her come away for a week without money...that's the criteria.  If it doesn't work for you...no problem.  Don't send him an inquiry as to anything...or any other gal who feels the same.

But as I said below...plenty of gals do this every day.  Or so I hear  

I did wonder why you would solicit his guests too and tell him how much .

The trick is to find something to keep you busy so time flies. I have a few thoughts

First, I absolutely question anyone who attacks another person hiding behind an alias! If you are
going to attack someone, be a MAN not a PUSSY, and stand in front of them when you throw down!

Is the person you are attacking abrasive? If you are a politically correct tool you would consider him so. I find his call-it-like-it-is style refreshing.

Finally, he made a reply to a post – not one of yours - and you decide to go off on him. And of course you do it behind an alias because you don’t have the balls to do it straight up.

So that’s my response. I can’t wait to see from behind what alias you will attack me from.

Elrond.

Hey internet tough guy,  do we know who you are?  No.  There's no rule that says that I can't state my opinion using an alias. Are we just supposed to take your opinion as gospel because you have a lot of reviews?  Well, I'll grant you that you are more experienced, but your experiences don't negate my experiences or those of others.  As I said earlier, that you do not actually dispute the evidence speaks volumes.  We get it.  You like the simplyGFE guy and his agency.  We don't.  It's as simple as that.  You continue to do what you do, and I'll continue to do what I do....or not do.  

Happy Hobbying and happy new year.

you are just so obsessed with me that you couldnt help yourself.  Here is the facts.... I have done bisiness with probably 10,000 people over the years.  When you put yourself in a position with dealing w the public, you are bound to have some people that dont like you.  I get it.  However, I obviously have enough happy customers that I am still in business, dont I?  

My posts on here were on topic where yours are not.  All you are interested in is flaming me....thats all.  How does that benefit the community as a whole?  It doesnt.  You dont like me....i get it....move on!

LOL JUST KIDDING!!