LoL  .. I am actually cracking up reading some of the attacks I have been reading recently when it comes to providers complaining about pet peeves when it comes to clients.  

I wanted to reply to the topic a few below this but it wouldve gotten lost in the shuffle im sure.  

Lets get this straight....

You get paid more per hour then probably 99% of the population
can set your own hours
get to explore different cities
get wined and dined , gifts given, etc

and you have the nerve to bitch and complain about it? You have the nerve to berate someone who is willing to give you a weeks salary for an hour of your time?
If its that hard or frustrates you that much.... find a new line of work.... but beware... every job comes with its own set of frustrations... only the people who do them dont have the luxury of making what you make or having the freedoms that you do.  

cancelling appointments because someone asks for you to shower?   Are you aware of how many times us as clients get the "be sure to clean behind your ears" speech?  It goes both ways... some of us may have been with some "not so fresh" providers in the past so whats wrong with that type of request.... and dont forget that youre most likely the first person we have been with that day where as we may be at the tail end of a GOD KNOWS WHAT marathon.  If a provider wants to lecture me on cleanliness I feel I have a right to lecture as well.....especially when im the one paying and I also have to be with you.

Is this crap really that serious?  serious enough to call out customers from a city you wish to make a living from?  As snake said perfectly in his post...we are in fact the customers.  If you get to the point where youre despising your customers or grouping them all under 1 umbrella because of a few repetitive questions.....go work at jiffy lube (at least you can say you have experience).  

Or get a secretary so you 1 person removed from the questions that anger you so much....tell you what I will personally take every call for you and deal with all the repetitive questions for you ... all I ask is 20% of your hourly rate. PROBLEM SOLVED

.....Standing Ovation !!

Great post.  

Thank you  

You Chicago guys are Fantastic!!
Portia Ede

I think that you have to remember that when you see posts like that. Every job, no matter what the hourly rate is, no matter the salary, no matter how enjoyable it is, will have it's frustrations and unique problems. If someone's bitching and complaining about their job more often than not, yes it is probably best to find another line of work. But complaining about your job is something that everyone does....and it's usually best to complain only to your coworkers and colleagues; they tend to understand you a lot better than those who don't have your job.  

I think you're referring to a previous post and I agree that it's not too much to ask to take a shower. I think perhaps what she was objecting to was the way it was phrased. "You better be clean" is much more off putting than "Cleanliness is very important to me, so would you mind taking a shower before we start our date?" I mean, I do that anyway, so no sweat off my back. And hey, I've always enjoyed showering with someone else...so there's an option ;

I have had nothing but perfect gentlemen visit me here in the beautiful city of Chicago.
Sad that I will be leaving tomorrow to attend to the weather issues in Florida arriving this weekend.  
But I will for sure be back!

Thanks for the opportunity to meet such wonderful people,

Gabby xox

Margo,  

I agree 100%.... Hey if providers want to voice their complaints to each other thats all well and good and understandable.  But to do it in front of the customers is bad business regardless of what profession you're in and I guess thats where the phrase professionalism comes from.  

As for the other topic.... yes if the client was rude about it I could see it but if its a simple request without malice being shown and the provider takes offense to the thought of being asked then yes I have a problem with that type of scenario .  

stay classy margo

You do your homework better than you do now, before you say things, at least read reviews, then open you mouth. This business wouldn't have existed if there wasn't an offer. I'm going back in a week and won't be in the business for at least three months, will be busy getting my MS in the profession of helping people. I'll forget your mean attitude in a seconds. I hope someone loves you in this world and you're not alone because it's sounds like you need a hug.

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I'll just say that Serena (the rip-off and scam artist) and the other providers who joined her in bashing "Chicago guys"  just lost any potential business from me. And before you start accusing me, no I've never engaged in those bad mannered behaviors you list, but I am a Chicago guy and I resent being bashed because of that and painted with a broad brush.  Could you imagine if a representative from Target or Walmart came onto a public forum and and bashed the customers of a major metropolitan area?  So ladies, learn some professionalism.  Your decision to come on here and bitch was not a good marketing decision.  

 
Oh, and before anyone is tempted to take Serena seriously, read her reviews.  According to at least one of them, she's  a rip-off and a scam artist. I don't think she's in much of a position to be critical of anyone.

When someone is looking for GFE and makes an effort to express their wishes in a polite way, it benefits both. When in normal settings (GF & BF), do people say each other, "be clean," and "I hope you shower"--no. Because someone pays, it doesn't give them the right to be rude to someone they've never met before. If some not-so-clean lady came around, it doesn't mean all ladies like that. I had a friend/client in Atlanta, he liked one provider over there very much, but he wouldn't see her again because she wasn't fresh the first time. It was very awkward for him to even think how to tell her that. But if we think of that matter, this hobby for the men just as much a gamble as for the providers. Man can politely request to be showered, perfume free, whatever, but she might say 'okay honey,' and not do it for some reason. There is no guarantee in this that everything is going to be perfect just because we want it to be perfect.  
Now, positive thing. I've been coming to Chicago every month. There are many things I admire men here for and one of them is that they're never late, even if they say they're running late, they are on time. Please, guys, don't change!

flip side to every coin.... I on 1 hand have never cancelled an appointment due to a provider requesting hygiene because I have no issue about it.... however you on the other hand are the one that seems to have the problem pushing customers away because they make the same request that majority of providers make a point to bring up with their clients.  

Im glad you will forget about my "my mean comments"  because honestly its not worth going on about ....  

and YES I will be more then glad to take a hug from whoever offers....... as long as they shower first.

I said, "Sorry, I don't feel comfortable meeting you, have a good night," is that classy enough for you?

The reason why I felt like I should cancel was his choice of words. If the person is rude over the text message, God knows how rude, aggressive, or even abusive and violet he can be in person. I choose to go with my gut feeling.

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Tempting

While the drama and release of the rant may make them feel momentarily better, I can guarantee that it is bad PR. There are ladies on these boards that I would just never see because of their piss poor attitude. I can't believe that they would ever believe expressing their hatred towards us men would be a good idea.

I found this picture to be relevant to providers posting in public, and not on the provider only board, when they choose to rant on hobbiests

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Heck, just scan the message boards and it's pretty easy to rule out the BSC providers. It's amazing what some complain about but I'm glad they complain here, on a public board, where we can clearly see what they REALLY think of us. Not that I don't know already but it's always great getting validation straight from the providers rather than hearing it through the rumor mill. Keep posting your rants ladies, you're saving me a ton of screening time and I don't even need stinkin' VIP anymore. How great is that!

I think this thread stands alone just fine.

...over anything. You sound really, really, really pissed. You're essentially doing the same thing you're accusing providers of --- attacking. If you're going to call someone out call them out!

I think the point is that frustrations go both ways. I was recently with a 10 star provider who had an odor issue. I went down and caught a major odor. That stopped me in my tracks, but I still went on to use my fingers as that is one of the things I really enjoy. After only a minute or two, the smell started engulfing the air. I can't imagine the provider not realizing it, but I understand that it is often hardest to catch your own odor. Anyways, I decided to cut the session short as my phone rang at the most opportune time and gave me a nice excuse to leave as I pretended to listen to a voicemail.

I scrubbed my hands with soap and everything else I could find for a couple minutes in the bathroom but the smell was stuck to my fingers. I had to endure it on the car ride home with my windows open and it just would not go away, that's how bad it was.

I was out a half a grand from this experience. I did my research but what else could I do? The provider is so highly rated that I even fear of repercussions if I leave a poor review. So I'm just left $500 lighter in my pockets. But that's part of this business. I chalk it up as a loss and move on to better experiences.

am faaaaaaar from pissed off.  You can ask any of the providers that know me personally and im sure they will tell you im one of the most easy going, respectful and polite clients they have. I am that way because I do appreciate what providers do and want the time spent enjoyable for everyone involved.  

That being said I am not looking at what im saying as attacking but instead defending. I hate when clients are lumped under 1 giant umbrella.  A large majority of providers dont do that and understand certain things and personalities come with the territory but its ignorant to put a entire cities client base in the same category which is what I see time and time again when I read "chicago guys etc".  

I made a mistake by not pointing out in my original post that I was referring to the exception of providers... not the rule, because its a small fraction of providers that appear to be spiteful and who take us for granted so much that they decide to post what they dont like about us on a public forum.  

I look at it this way.  
say you went in a place to eat and the waitress or waiter came up and greeted you by saying "boy I have worked at a ton of different places but I have to say this places customers are the worst...then goes on to give a detailed description of what annoys them"

what would your response be?  would you feel offended?  would it effect your tip? would it make u uncomfortable enough not to return? im guessing It would probably mimic my original post.  

As I responded to margo im sure that you all get frustrated about similar things however to state them to the clients themselves and in my opinion attacking an entire group makes the person come off VERY jaded. It can be brought up in a much different fashion or as margo stated...said with co workers etc instead of basically saying this is what annoys me about chicago clients to the clients themselves.  

I hope you understand where im coming from with this.  My post was simply a response to what I have read and feel If someone is criticizing the lot of us for simple frustrations then maybe its time to move on to a different line of work

Forgive me hardwood... I guess I like to live life on the edge.  I may put a shirt in the laundry when I get home that says "dry clean only" or perhaps take my hot pocket out of the microwave 2 seconds before the suggested cooking time..... im a rebel ... what can I say?

But in all seriousness my bad and if we ever have the pleasure of meeting I give you complete permission to give me 2 swift kicks to the shins.

.... providers don't either.  

I have just one question? If you dislike providers so much and if you resent how much they earn and their attitudes about it why do you seek to spend time with them? It's kind of like your waitress scenario. If you hate this place why are you here?  

Reading between the lines -
Laney

I dislike providers?  sorry my dear but you couldnt misunderstand my posts any more.  I love providers and I have said before I am not gearing my thoughts to ALL providers but instead a select few.  

As I said in my last post to you which you obviously didnt read I stated I made a mistake by not pointing out in my original post that I wasnt referring to all providers but just the ones that decide to take aim at all of us. Im guessing you missed that part.  

as far as your assumption that I resent how much they make.... again you are wrong.  I could care less what providers make, I have no problem paying it because I feel its worth it..... I do resent those FEW providers that appear to take it for granted and not realize they have a very good thing going.  Its one thing to be appreciative ... its another to feel entitled.  

as far as trying to use my waitress scenario... I love this place and I love the providers that treat me with the same respect I treat them with.... as far as the others....not only do I not go back...I dont even walk through the front door.  

sorry that you keep taking my words out of context and obviously arent getting the points im making so to avoid further escalation I will simply say agree to disagree.  Enjoy your weekend

MUAH!!! I'm such a complainer too!!!  HAPPY TGIF TO ALL!!!

LoveLaneysRedLightShow... I can guarantee he loves providers... He is one of the nicest most generous nit to mention a cutie Hobbyist out there. Any provider could wish all hobbyists were like him.... Then there would be nothing to complain about!!!  .

Thanks gem,  

I only put my horns away when im with you though.

U mean bring them out!!! "Pull my Hair"!!!  I love ur Horns!! But ur right... Complaining when we make more then most CEOs do in an hour...  I say STOP COMPLAINING &  LETS HAVE SOME FUN!!! Woo whoo!!!

Wow... Sorry to hear!!! To make you feel better, here is another story.. When I started this business (in Denver, CO), I had a call with the girl. The girl was very pretty, but when her and the guy started intercourse with her, I had to get up and walk to the window to try to open it.. It was horrible, no one said a word. Few days later, me and the other girl sent that girl to a doctor to check. She was disease-clean, but (this is too disgusting, you ready?..) the dr extracted four cosmetic sponges out of her little body that were making that smell. Sorry for that not-so-'juicy' detail..
Happy hobbying!
xoxo

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That story happened before Oct 2008, when this business was very good and ladies could be really busy if they wanted to. So, maybe she was forgetful in a rush.

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