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I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it. But I have to say, there are girls on here now who are charging more than $300 who I can't believe are worth half of that! Who's paying these crazy prices? I'm not going to "name names" because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but it strikes me that if you're not at least an 8 or 9 in the looks department you cannot possibly be worth $300. And I'm not talking about somebody's self-assessment of her own looks, I mean TER better be giving you an 8 or better if you want $300 for an hour. There are women on here who want $350 per hour and they have 6's and 7's? You have to be kidding me! Guys don't waste your money on these girls. That's what we have this site for.   Use it wisely. As a highly-paid professional myself, my rates haven't gone up in 2 years. Why should a working girl's?

1) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
2) We have pictures, ratings and prices...why not let the market decide and stfu    

Posted By: saint72
I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it. But I have to say, there are girls on here now who are charging more than $300 who I can't believe are worth half of that! Who's paying these crazy prices? I'm not going to "name names" because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but it strikes me that if you're not at least an 8 or 9 in the looks department you cannot possibly be worth $300. And I'm not talking about somebody's self-assessment of her own looks, I mean TER better be giving you an 8 or better if you want $300 for an hour. There are women on here who want $350 per hour and they have 6's and 7's? You have to be kidding me! Guys don't waste your money on these girls. That's what we have this site for.   Use it wisely. As a highly-paid professional myself, my rates haven't gone up in 2 years. Why should a working girl's?

BUT I am willing to...

lick your butthole, in fact fuck your butthole with my tongue if it is clean,
guzzle your cum like I havent eaten in weeks,
deepthroat your cock,
let you skullfuck me silly,
let you ram my ass so hard I end up in the next room,
will stick my tits or face out eagerly to be a dump for your cum AND/OR your piss,
actually WANT and HAVE amazing whole body orgasms,
will play any role you desire me to to the degree that you might have to say.. are you really okay?
and DO CRAVE to be used,
AND I actually LOVE sex and CARE about you!

Soooo.. ya.. looks? always not the most important thing to everybody. ;)

He would not appreciate your depth, not to mention your all-consuming lust, if it ran him over. And it would probably kill him. Yes, I know of your reputation and have read your site, though we have not met (yet).

I understand the idea that one is just paying to spend time with the most beautiful woman you can afford, but I am paying to have the best experience I can have. And that consists of a whole package, looks sure, but also personality, services offered, and that magical chemistry real or perfectly portrayed.

A great provider is beautiful, an accomplished actress, very sympatico with all sorts of people, an expert in sexual techniques and a world class athlete. Since no one is actually a 10 in all those things, you balance it all out and find someone who combines them in a way that works for you. Me, I will gladly take a 6 in looks who is a 10 in all those other things.

Zig


True beauty is more than skin deep. I rated Bebe an 8. She's got a killer body, but what really sets her apart is attitude. I've been with ladies who go through the motions, but I'm yet to meet anyone who is into sex any more than Bebe. I don't even know if that is possible. It shows, and that's what makes her beautiful to me.





Posted By: bebedoll
BUT I am willing to...

lick your butthole, in fact fuck your butthole with my tongue if it is clean,
guzzle your cum like I havent eaten in weeks,
deepthroat your cock,
let you skullfuck me silly,
let you ram my ass so hard I end up in the next room,
will stick my tits or face out eagerly to be a dump for your cum AND/OR your piss,
actually WANT and HAVE amazing whole body orgasms,
will play any role you desire me to to the degree that you might have to say.. are you really okay?
and DO CRAVE to be used,
AND I actually LOVE sex and CARE about you!

Soooo.. ya.. looks? always not the most important thing to everybody. ;)

And she does it all with such enthusiasm!

Posted By: bebedoll
BUT I am willing to...

lick your butthole, in fact fuck your butthole with my tongue if it is clean,
guzzle your cum like I havent eaten in weeks,
deepthroat your cock,
let you skullfuck me silly,
let you ram my ass so hard I end up in the next room,
will stick my tits or face out eagerly to be a dump for your cum AND/OR your piss,
actually WANT and HAVE amazing whole body orgasms,
will play any role you desire me to to the degree that you might have to say.. are you really okay?
and DO CRAVE to be used,
AND I actually LOVE sex and CARE about you!

Soooo.. ya.. looks? always not the most important thing to everybody. ;)

Number 1, you are NOT 6 in looks!  And number 2, NO one offers the services you provide, at any price!  You are the DOLL, and I also care very much!

and, btw, for the record, Bebedoll is one of the most beautiful people I have ever met--both inside AND out.

For you to say "guys don't waste yourmoney on these girls" is really rude of you! A provider has the right to charge whatever she wants......especially if she has a great reputation and lots of good reviews....just as Bebe said....looks aren't everything for some people.......

What happens when you get the high dollar hottie...beautiful as can be....but she doesn't live out your fantasy for you? Or she's a 'YMMV' provider.....then what?

So do YOU get paid by your looks? Or is it by performance?

we have no idea who you 'really' are.  Sure, you may be a member of Datecheck, P411, RS2K etc  BUT that doesn't mean you're a stable individual.  Last I checked, a psychiatric evaluation was not needed to become a member of any of those services.  We never know who we're going to meet.  We risk our lives (and yes I know, it's a choice we make) but how many other jobs can you think of that you risk your life.  Now granted, I know firemen, cops etc take a big risk, but there are not a lot of jobs that don't put your life in danger.  Also, keep in mind, we are doing the most intimate thing you can do with another person.  Grrrrr!

Good point Soujorner and BeBe.


Everyone has the right to their perspective.  I believe that each hobbyist has to decide what is important to them.  For some it will be looks, for others it will be performance, connection, etc.  Some of us want it all - and for nothing!  LOL.  Likewise, providers have the absolute right to price their services as they see fit.  It can be an interesting topic, fun to speculate about and gossip a little - but at the end of the day, I see little point in complaining about price.

I have fun with all sorts of wonderful women (I have even reviewed a few of them).  

Take it all with a grain of salt.  I don't agree with saint71 and encourage less experienced hobbyists to keep a broad perspective.    But hey, that's just my opinion and I could be wrong.  LOL.

Maybe you should have to pay extra for being such a douche.  Tee;hee;)

XXX-Giselle

Posted By: saint72
I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it. But I have to say, there are girls on here now who are charging more than $300 who I can't believe are worth half of that! Who's paying these crazy prices? I'm not going to "name names" because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but it strikes me that if you're not at least an 8 or 9 in the looks department you cannot possibly be worth $300. And I'm not talking about somebody's self-assessment of her own looks, I mean TER better be giving you an 8 or better if you want $300 for an hour. There are women on here who want $350 per hour and they have 6's and 7's? You have to be kidding me! Guys don't waste your money on these girls. That's what we have this site for.   Use it wisely. As a highly-paid professional myself, my rates haven't gone up in 2 years. Why should a working girl's?

Having seen this type of post over the months (on this and the general board) that I have been reading the boards, it is understandable when a reviewer may have an axe to grind.  Perhaps they were disappointed with a recent ladies appearance, having taken other reviewers appearance scores and not reading carefully the "juicy details" to determine his own compatability level with said lady.  

But to make a blanket statement that no lady is worth more than $$$ unless "others have determined she is an 8+" is something that I would not take into consideration in my determination of whether I would want to see said lady.  As Bebe Doll points out, she is (and on her own website) a 5/6, but she is promoting herself as such and makes no qualms about who she is targeting as her clientelle.  What I believe the OP is suggesting is that when ladies are suggesting $ 350+, they had better be HIS ideal of beauty.  What I have learned via TER and the reviewing system is to follow those reviewers who I have learned to trust in judgment and the types of ladies that they see, and determine based on my parameters whether this might be a good match for my interests.  Some were more $$$ than I might have liked to pay, but they in no way were any less a match than a lady that might have been a smidgen less $$$.  

I might also not be the norm on this site, as most of my encounters are for multi-hour sessions (I typically will spend 4-8 hours with one particular fave of mine).  Hence, in my case, I strongly seek a good match and appearances are important, but for a successful multi-hour engagement, performance (and compatability) will be even more compelling to me.  For any newbies reading this post, please determine for yourself what is important to you and let that guide you in the end.

Oh, and by the way I am also a rather expensive professional and clearly understand why a lady can charge what she is asking...because SHE can!  If you feel it is out of your price range, simply move on and find one in your particular range.  To negatively comment on those ladies who are asking $$$ you feel is too high is simply YOUR opinion (to which you are clearly entitled to just as I am mine).

Thats my .02

Not sure why your ranting but you sure offended the female population here. Sometimes it's better to have an opinion and keep it to yourself.

So what have you gained? You ranted and pissed and moaned and now there's a smaller provider group to choose from. Word travels fast in this community, good luck seeing those 8's and 9's.

I approved this post and knew that it was going to turn out this way. As a moderator part of my responsibility is to protect people from themselves. Knowing full well the OP was going to draw the ire of some of our most respected providors for his post, I should have not approved it.

However, because I am not the nice moderator on this board, go ahead and say what you will. After seeing that he has multiple reviews he should have known better than to make such a posting. As Polish_Pirate said, "Good luck seeing those 8's and 9's" I couldn't agree more.

Sojouner 7 and I will clean up the carnage later. This maybe a good lesson for some newbies to think before you post. Live and learn. just hold off for a minute, I'm getting some pop corn because this should be interesting.

Again, my apologies.

FUNTIMES61

I wouldn't think any apologies are in order as everyone here is an "adult".  Unfortunately some "adults" can't think a problem through, and find it easier to bitch and moan.  Everyone has options in life, and if the OP had thought through his options, he would have been spending some quality time with one of those 8s and 9s.  But as I posted earlier, his ideals and mine are probably not the same.  He would be well served to stay with the ladies he prefers, and not try and force his "opinions" on the rest of the world.  I would only guess that this is a trait he carries in the real world, and I would doubt it has served him a whole lot better than the results of this fiasco.

Besides, we haven't had a good train wreck in a while. At least this is a controlled crash, lol.

is actually when real difference and conversation happens. Everybody has a right to their preference certainly. Ideally you post with empathy because in the end we are all in this together.

getting in line to see you.  It seems to me a experienced hobbyist would be able to figure out who they wanted to see using current pictures, are they accurate.  So you you know what she looks like, are you waiting to see if other hobbyist think she's hot as well.  Guess what we have different taste. Get over it and quit fucking whining.  If your so highly paid your gonna have to come off some of that cash to get laid.  You may have to pay extra.  best of luck after this post!!!!!
Doc

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I want to go on record saying that I think bebedoll is absolutely awesome!!
Worth whatever she decides to charge be far
Imagine a world without bebedoll...not as good, I assure you.
Thanks  for being you Bebe

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I fundamentally disagree.  $300 is the average rate.  $500 is the standard "premium content" rate.  These days there are agencies offering premium girls at little more than $300, and that's just a sign of a bad economy.

Posted By: saint72
I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it. But I have to say, there are girls on here now who are charging more than $300 who I can't believe are worth half of that! Who's paying these crazy prices? I'm not going to "name names" because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but it strikes me that if you're not at least an 8 or 9 in the looks department you cannot possibly be worth $300. And I'm not talking about somebody's self-assessment of her own looks, I mean TER better be giving you an 8 or better if you want $300 for an hour. There are women on here who want $350 per hour and they have 6's and 7's? You have to be kidding me! Guys don't waste your money on these girls. That's what we have this site for.   Use it wisely. As a highly-paid professional myself, my rates haven't gone up in 2 years. Why should a working girl's?
The assumption you are making is that you have to authority to tell others what they may charge and that your preferences are the only ones that count.  

Consider this, if a man is attracted to BBWs, then his perfect 10 is a large woman.  A man who prefers an ebony beauty or a hot latina, will choose someone who fits his "ideal" of beauty as a 10.  Same with guys who like suicide girls, mature ladies, Eurpean ladies, Doms, submissives, kink providers,  etc.  There are also ladies whose skills in a specific area, or performance, put them in high demand.

The wonderful truth about the hobby is that there is someone foreveryone.  Your Perfect 10 may be a 6 in someone else's book.

Likewise, ladies charge what they deem they deserve and make adjustments based upon how their donations are received by hobby community.  They do not need to justify to you (or anyone, for that matter) what they charge and you are free to look elsewhere.

It's like having enough money to buy a Ford Focus and standing outside a Cadillac or Mercedes dealer and telling them (and everyone) that you think they should lower their prices.  Do you think they care about your opinion?  You will simply be direct to the nearest Ford dealership that sells the Focus  (if they choose to be nice about it).  Now, on the other hand,  if sales begin to slide for that high dollar car, the manufacture may offer a price reduction to increase sales.  Or they may offer specials  to. encourage or acknowledge customer loyalty.

The fact of the matter is that this is a matter of simple economics.  Ladies charge what the market will bear.

Oh, and I think your car is ready.  Isn't it thet silver Ford Focus???

Posted By: Sinful1

The assumption you are making is that you have to authority to tell others what they may charge and that your preferences are the only ones that count.  

Consider this, if a man is attracted to BBWs, then his perfect 10 is a large woman.  A man who prefers an ebony beauty or a hot latina, will choose someone who fits his "ideal" of beauty as a 10.  Same with guys who like suicide girls, mature ladies, Eurpean ladies, Doms, submissives, kink providers,  etc.  There are also ladies whose skills in a specific area, or performance, put them in high demand.

The wonderful truth about the hobby is that there is someone foreveryone.  Your Perfect 10 may be a 6 in someone else's book.

Likewise, ladies charge what they deem they deserve and make adjustments based upon how their donations are received by hobby community.  They do not need to justify to you (or anyone, for that matter) what they charge and you are free to look elsewhere.

It's like having enough money to buy a Ford Focus and standing outside a Cadillac or Mercedes dealer and telling them (and everyone) that you think they should lower their prices.  Do you think they care about your opinion?  You will simply be direct to the nearest Ford dealership that sells the Focus  (if they choose to be nice about it).  Now, on the other hand,  if sales begin to slide for that high dollar car, the manufacture may offer a price reduction to increase sales.  Or they may offer specials  to. encourage or acknowledge customer loyalty.

The fact of the matter is that this is a matter of simple economics.  Ladies charge what the market will bear.

Oh, and I think your car is ready.  Isn't it thet silver Ford Focus???


Soooo well said!!  If said lady is charging too much for your tastes, then there are tons more to choose from who are more-so in your price range. Ladies charge what they deem necessary to cover all overhead, and actually make some money in the end... if it wasn't working for them, then they wouldn't be charging what they do.

I agree with saint72.
The 2 sides obviously cannot reconcile. It is in our interest to keep prices down but in their interest to keep them up (the prices). I consider as well any fee over $300 ridiculous. As long as I can find after doing a little bit of research 8-10 looks & 8-10 performance for $ 250 max why should I pay more?
Like in any business : the law of offer and demand....

Posted By: saint72
I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it. But I have to say, there are girls on here now who are charging more than $300 who I can't believe are worth half of that! Who's paying these crazy prices? I'm not going to "name names" because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but it strikes me that if you're not at least an 8 or 9 in the looks department you cannot possibly be worth $300. And I'm not talking about somebody's self-assessment of her own looks, I mean TER better be giving you an 8 or better if you want $300 for an hour. There are women on here who want $350 per hour and they have 6's and 7's? You have to be kidding me! Guys don't waste your money on these girls. That's what we have this site for.   Use it wisely. As a highly-paid professional myself, my rates haven't gone up in 2 years. Why should a working girl's?

1) To the OP "I am not a cheap man. Look at my reviews. I like quality and I'm used to paying for it."


Actually I did ... and while there are FEW high quality ladies that you have reviewed and rated very positively, majority of your reviews are low scored, full of dissapointment and of so called "BP girls".  (Note "BP girls does not reflect advertisement on BP but rather business model)

2) to Bebe  WHEN DO WE GET TO PLAY?????  Do I have to send in formal request? :)


3) bbtna made one of the best responses I ever read regarding Price Threads

4)To MILCPA: You are a wise one . Nothing can be more painful than dinner date with someone who may look like playboy model but has personality of dry paint. Or someone who has fantastic personality, amazing looks, but completely not compatible with YOU!

5) Sinful1, kudos.  Earlier this week I was at Four Seasons Bar in NYC with my patron.  Absolutely GORGEOUS tall skinny tanned blond walks in.  His comment?  "Gosh ,. I just want to feed her a hamburger or 100" Why? This particular Gentlemen is attracted to curvy busty brunettes. Not petite blonds, not tall redheads, but curvy brunettes.


6) To Mods.  You are NAUGHTY!!!!

I think the biggest mistake OP made was to use words "you cannot possibly be worth $300."   Really, that is all he needed to say for public flogging he is about to endure :)

Lina



Well Sir....you can always ponder this:

How much would anyone pay to have a session with you?

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The OP brings up a couple of good points.  There is a ton of variability at the 300 price range - looks, menu offerings, performance, etc.  What he is essentially asking is how girls who consistently get 9/9s are priced the same as 5/6 girls.  Why don't economic forces cause the 5/6 girls to eventually lower their prices or exit the business or the 9/9s to realize how good they are and increase their prices?  I often wonder this and I've realized a few things.  There are many more hobbyists out there than one would expect (a number way beyond what TER membership would indicate).  Overall quality is not #1 on many hobbyists' checklist when they are looking for a date because often they aren't familiar with sites like TER.  Most hobbyists also happen to be much older than the providers they see.  They are grateful to be able to spend time with someone who is young, in reasonably good shape and provides services that they cannot get anywhere else.  Where else is a 60 year old guy going to find some 25 year old lady?  If he has other options, he would utilize those before hobbying.  

The result is that 300 has become sort of the default price for the area, irregardless of provider quality.  Don't like it?  Then don't play.

is that the original poster is checking out girls he isn't interested in ever meeting.  Is it morbid curiosity?  I know you have to go through a few ladies to find the ones you want but he is trying to sound like an auditory on it.

One comment:

If the chicky is still charging that rate regardless that you think she should or should not, SOMEONE out there is happy to pay it or her rates would have dropped.  YOU(the OP) never want to meet her so WHY does it matter to you?  If it doesn't effect you in even the slightest WHY are you taking the time to comment about it?

I have been at the same gifting since June 1 2006, and only took a 10-50hr raise in the last 9yrs.  My rep speaks for itself, and my looks not to your standard.  You know what?  I do not care.  

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and alot of them stink and trust me we REALLY know that for real!!!

Lastly,

How would you feel if at job one of those personnel evaluators came in and said you are great but just not worth your current wage, perhaps you should be knocked down 20kyr because in their eyes you just aren't worth it.  How would you feel?  Because you just did it to a whole lot of providers.

Well said Sage....

Posted By: Sage of Chicago
is that the original poster is checking out girls he isn't interested in ever meeting.  Is it morbid curiosity?  I know you have to go through a few ladies to find the ones you want but he is trying to sound like an auditory on it.

One comment:

If the chicky is still charging that rate regardless that you think she should or should not, SOMEONE out there is happy to pay it or her rates would have dropped.  YOU(the OP) never want to meet her so WHY does it matter to you?  If it doesn't effect you in even the slightest WHY are you taking the time to comment about it?

I have been at the same gifting since June 1 2006, and only took a 10-50hr raise in the last 9yrs.  My rep speaks for itself, and my looks not to your standard.  You know what?  I do not care.  

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and alot of them stink and trust me we REALLY know that for real!!!

Lastly,

How would you feel if at job one of those personnel evaluators came in and said you are great but just not worth your current wage, perhaps you should be knocked down 20kyr because in their eyes you just aren't worth it.  How would you feel?  Because you just did it to a whole lot of providers.

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I think the OP will never be posting on the Chicago board again, he'll be lucky if gets 2s or 3s now, good job buddy LOL

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"I had to go and open my BIG MOUTH!!!!! "

I live in a market where the going rate is $150-$250 an hour. Yet one teen age lady is charging $450.00. How can she possibly be worth that much in this market? A fucking teenager,  not really all that attractive? Then you read her reviews and start saving your dollars.

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