I am using alias so I don't start wars or drama  

I have seen a handful of ladies and I would say a year ago  I met a lady with many good reviews.  I just did not agree with many of the previous reviews so I gave my honest opinion. It wasnt harsh and I didnt give a 3 score or anything but didnt give the 9's that I saw many of. It was just my opinion.  That day I got a email asking to change a few things I wrote and getting pretty nasty about it making me wonder if this was a common practice for her to get scores and details swayed to the more positive side.  
I can see how some ladies take things said to heart but have others experienced this type of thing? It makes me wonder if many reviews are manipulated.  I decided to stick to my guns and not change it because it wouldnt be fair but it does make me think twice about posting a negative review when the lady has my info etc. I always get verified and stupidly I use my personal cell as my num but im thinking of getting a burner phone and number for this. until I do I get worried and want to avoid being hassled for giving my opinion. I am also thinking about waiting a while to post a negative review to confuse the timeline but many ladies I see come from here and know my screen name and alias'es arent taken seriously.  

I am just looking for advice from both sides.  guys does this happen to you? and if so what do you do ?  ladies when you see a bad review how do you handle it?

Score manipulation happens quite frequently.  If you go to the RO board, you'll read stories on ladies pressuring guys to give 10/10 for reviews.  That is why I usually avoid ladies that keep touting their 10/10 review scores and placement in the TER Top 100 [they come off as narcissistic and full of themselves].  It is shame since there are ladies that do deserve high scores.  But, a few rotten apples have spoiled it for everyone.

BTW - stop using your personal cell.  That is just plain stupid.  Also, stop giving them your handle.  Just keep quiet about your TER identity and post a truthful review.

Keep copies of all the nasty, harassing correspondence between you and the provider and submit them to TER admin. as evidence of how the provider manipulates her review scores.

Stop using your personal cell phone for the hobby and get a burner phone, STAT!  I'd also suggest signing up for P411 or DateCheck so that you don't have to reveal your real identity to providers (aka RoomService).

thanks for the advice. I am in fact an rs2k member but will look into the other screening sites.  As far as the burners I have never had one. Do they come up as private caller or a phone number since most ladies dont accept blocked numbers. any specific brand that works best?

I disagree with the advice of not providing a your TER handle when meeting with a lady.

One thing I have learned within a short time in this business is you experience is going to be different with each hobbyist. My very first day at working in this business I met a gentleman who gave me, what I considered, I really bad review. High scores, but still bad. Not to mention he lied to me about being a TER member. Which is why I disagree with you not telling the provider your handle. Giving the provider you handle allows us to get to know you by the reviews you write.  

Example, the hobbyist who wrote a review about me ALWAYS has something negative to say in his many reviews about the provider he has seen. His documentation  in reviews are very consistent in stating something negative. Which is why I did not contact TER about the review.  

Hobbyist have to do there homework. Don't just look at the reviews of the ladies like at the pattern in documentation of the reviewers as well. On the flip side. If you get a provider whose reviews are sounding the same, possibility is she is probably coaching the hobbyist into the review he is giving  

I disagree with the advice of not providing a your TER handle when meeting with a lady.

If the review you gave is accurate don't change it. As long as you know you were being truthful

I bought a TracFone at Wally World for $10, and it costs me $20 to replenish it every 90 days.  It shows up as a regular number, not a private or blocked number, so no worries there.  Some added advice is to pay in cash, register it to a Gmail/Yahoo/Hushmail account, and always buy airtime cards with cash (don't add minutes through the phone w/ a credit card).  That way your real identity is never attached to the phone.

Looking over your previous reviews and looking over the suspected hobbyiest you ID'd in your thread, I would have to say you are over reacting.  Even in his review, he was very kind and considerate and forgiving regarding the shortcomings he mentioned, whether real or imagined.  As I look at your reviews, I would not be swayed from seeing you in the least.  Your last four reviews are all solid 8's and 9's.  So one guy was a little hard on you, hey, it happens.  I am not keen on giving out my handle as I also like to keep some vale of anonymity on this board.  Good luck to you and sometime in the near future I would like to see you.

You write the reviews as you want!! Each person experiences different things with whomever they are seeing... One may say they are a 10 and others may beg to differ and give them a 3.... , if someone gets upset.. It's their problem!    

If only I could write reviews of some of the people I've seen.... Some are 10's & some are 3's... But other providers may disagree.....  

Happy Hump Day Everyone!!

Well Thank You!

I don't disagree that he was kind and considerate, but some of the things he wrote was NOT true. Reviews could be very subjective and some things he said I took it as just that. Kind and considerate yes, but a little passive aggressive if you ask me.  

The point I was trying to make is that hobbyist need to look at reviews ( not just scores) to see the difference in reviews being documented on providers, but to check the reviewers review's as well.  

As far as me over reacting on the review, I don't think so. As I mentioned, it was my VERY first day, so you live and learn. And that review I sure did learn a lot from. I'll make sure to have enough clean towels! LOL!

JKing!

Saw a lady that we went through everything known to man, but it was just "nice" for me.  I thought her to be kinda mechanical.  When I submitted the review, it was rejected because they said I needed to rate it higher based on what she did. I told them I could in good conscious only give an average score, so my review was rejected.  Oh well  lol

Before I type this, I do need to address the elephant in the room: Yes, I do have a lot of 10/10's ... and yes, I tout my rating on the Top 100 board. I mention both facts in my ads because, in my short lived experience in this world, it works for me. For every man who avoids women who take my marketing approach (understandably so, given the apparent prevalence of related drama), there is another who is drawn to it.  

But I am both a realist and a pragmatist and am aware of the fact that I won't always be Number Whatever. And at the risk of sounding crass, I don't care.

Perhaps this is because I have an incredibly busy, fulfilling and upwardly mobile life outside of being a hooker ... But at the end of the day, while I am flattered by / thankful for my reviews and for the wonderful men who have written them, there is a lot more to me / my life than numbers and descriptions of sexual acts.

So I can honestly say that I will welcome the inevitable deviation from my score pattern. Plus, I get the feeling that having something other than 10's and 9's will actually be GOOD for business, as it will lend credibility to the higher scores.

.... Just my two cents. As many of you know, I keep to myself. But this is definitely an important topic, and one of specific interest to me. So I had to reply.

Going back to my quiet, shadowy corner now.

-A

 

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Are you serious????!!!!  Would love to discuss this thru PM.

It has happened a few times. Mostly early on, and I have worked out an approach to reviewing that mostly avoids such confrontations. If you want, I will post how I approach reviewing these days, but let me say that part of it is that I start with permission from the provider in almost every situation. So if she has concerns about what I might say, she has a chance to voice them before saying it is okay to do a review. After that, I have her permission to proceed.

What I get out of your post is that she was a disappointment to you, so you dinged her with a low score. She objected, tried to push you around, and you refused to budge, "sticking to your guns," cowboy. Now you are worried that you have escalated this dispute.

First off, do not assume that you will ever be so protected that you can escape the revenge of an angry provider. Better to deal with her than try to hide. Second, learn something about conflict management. She felt you had done her wrong, and from what you wrote, you clearly did attack something that is important to her - her TER score and ranking. She has worked hard for that score, and now she is going to work hard to protect it. So she is testing you, seeing if she can bully you into fixing things. But your choices are not just to give in or say no - there is an entire world of other options. Take it in a different direction.

Try listening to her. Let her vent, ask questions, then ask her to tell you exactly what she wants you to do. As you do this, she is probably going to get a lot calmer and her requests will be more reasonable. Eventually she may even arrive at something you can, with a clear conscience, do for her. You gave her a seven and she wants a nine? But she might have a great argument for why a higher score is fair, and eventually you might agree to do an 8.

Then leave her on a positive note. "Let me work on that." Keep in mind, and be sure she knows, that TER requires there be something new and different in a re-review of the same date, so you cannot submit the exact same review with a different score. It does require some work and takes time.

And while that is all going on, she is also working to bury your review with newer, better ones, and then get it pulled by TER. Defuse the conflict and do not assume that she has no reason for what she is requesting - ladies who deserve 5s do not have 9s and 10s here. There are lots of ways ladies arrive at inflated scores - from working the system to having been around forever and getting lifetime achievement, not current performance, scores. But those scores are usually inflated by a point or two, not 3 or 4.

Last point - like CTP, I think it is not that hard to tell when someone's scores are inflated. Scores tend to follow a normal distribution, with a well-defined middle point, and then a few outliers above and below. If they are all 9s and 10s, she probably is too good to be true. So look elsewhere. And never, ever, ever, just pick based on the score. Because a 10 means something different to each of us, so you need to do your homework in order to figure out whether she is delivering what you expect of a 10, or an 8 or a 9 at her price point.

zig

Yes , a well reviewed LV lady didn't preform all the services discussed before and during the session
and in my honest opinion gave her a 7 / 7  and  
completely accurate juicy details ,
Received several  PM 's complaining how I ruined  her TER ratings. I tried to explain that I gave what I felt was a completely accurate review in my opinion  , and that my ratings would not drastically effect her overall numbers. Of course she did not agree with that assessment

EOM

I can honestly say that I have never pressured anyone into changing or even leaving a review.  That is super unprofessional. If I get a bad review so be it. But  that hasnt happened yet and i strive for it not too!  Pressuring for a change cheats other hobbyists and is a scam at that point.    

great post..honesty is always appreciated.

Pages and pages of 10/10 reviews are telling when you read between the lines.

Your subject line is right on. Many providers are heavily focused on their scores and ranking rather than giving quality service.

I'm all for calling out providers who manipulate scores using threats or harassment. I've been through this and it's much more prevalent than anyone admits to.

We don't make our decisions based on scores although many providers seem to think so. We make decisions based on trends and what is written in the review. I admit that when I see strings of 10/10 reviews, I tend to dismiss them as fake or manipulated although I realize some of them may be true. That's where trusted reviewers become important. If a reviewer I know and trust gives a 10/10, I assume it's true. High-score reviews from relative new reviewers are hard to believe and those are the ones I dismiss.

I rarely see a 10/10 provider, generally because she's out of my price range so there's no point in wasting my time reading her reviews. Most 8/9 providers are in my sweet spot and those are the scores I look for.

Yep. No offense to anyone getting solid 10s, but it kind of suggests you can fk anyone, and not be grossed out. Sorry, this hooker can't do that. I am not licking anyone's ass, or allowing private to private massage..I may as well go bbfs, if I am going to do that for a higher score. No one can possibly love fkin every guy they see, unless they are 1. A very good actress because their rate is sky high, or 2. They are that desperate for c(ck.

Agreed with the handle thing. If you have to hide your fkin handle, you are up to no good. You damn handle is not your real name, and can't do you much harm. If a guy is not on TER, I am not seeing him without full name and employment check, so which would most of you rather provide lol.  

I see TER guys, end of story. I no longer take any other review site as worth shit, so if you're not on TER, you are a newbie to me.

I'm new to the hobby so I wanted to first see a good number of providers before submitting my reviews. I must say that even if the lady doesn't pressure you into a positive review, I think there's still a ton of pressure to leave incredibly high scores for ladies who have already established great scores in the past.

Even if my experience wasn't a 9 or 10, do I REALLY want to be that one random guy that ranks an experience as a 7 (still good score fwiw)? Now I'm the guy who looks bad.

And it works both ways too. Once a girl is getting consistent 7s, it's much easier for the next guy to rank her a 7 instead of of a 9 or 10. But if she was previously a 9 or 10, she would have received a 9 or 10 b/c of that built in pressure.

Does that make sense? No? OK.......

....for an appt from my appearance to how I treat them and perform.  That being said if a gentleman still disagrees and I feel I deserved it or somehow could've done better I won't bother to refute it or saying anything to him.
HOWEVER if it's undeserved (and let's be real SOME guys get more hard out of ripping a chick to shreds in a review for the hell of it than he actually got hard in the session...there are some flat-out douchebags who just have the ability to form sentences) or ridiculously nit-picky I'm not gonna go BSC but I will give my 2 cents ..... if it's retaliatory (been there) or flat out fake (been there too) i'm going to take it to TER and try my best to get it removed (and with that win some lose some).

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great advice Chitownpimp
 I had a traveling provider pressure me to change her reviews and I try to explain to her why I gave her the score that I did and she still refuse to understand. don't know if I could write this but I'm going to go ahead and put it in. we had gone ahead and done the missionary on the reverse cowgirl and honestly she just seem way too mechanical so I wanted to go back to bbj and her response was I don't do that once you've been inside me.. even after I agree to go wash up she said no I don't do that go figure. she deserves the seven and no way to 10 honestly think I was being kind of 7.

You should review based on YOUR experience, not relative to other's experiences.  If you feel the experience was a 7 or 8 in performance amid a string of 10s, then write your review as a 7 or 8.  Yes, you'll be the outlier, but then again you may start a trend.  I find it really, really hard to fathom that any provider (or athlete or performer or artist, etc.) can be on top of her game all the time such that every guy who sees her and decides to write a review gives her a 10 in performance.  It's obvious that scores are being manipulated, reviews are being removed or never submitted in order to allow only the 10s to "rise to the top".

When I have given any reviews I have always tried to wait some time after the appointment and to leave out as many unique details of our encounter as I can and still tell the story of what happened.  Its an effort to seperate my real identity from my ter handle.  I have heard from a number of girls that poor reviews on ter have really hurt their business.  When asked to post a review or when a provider discusses ter I dummy up.  Its none of their business what my ter handle is

First, it provides no screening benefit-reviews are the gentleman's interpretation of reality, and the guys you would want to be wary of (the "bad guys") are rarely going to portray their negative behavior in a review.  

Second-and more to the point of the OP's issue, I think the scoring portion of the review system causes nothing but drama. There is so, so, SO much hassle over what constitutes what level of performance score and whether a woman's appearance should be rated based on personal preference, or whether it should be unbiased and based on some imagined ideal (as if there's ever been any sort of single ideal frame of beauty that all men can agree on in the history of the universe). Scores should inform a reader whether the companion in question has achieved her ideal target audience, or if there is a disconnect there, and the actual literary/qualitative portion should allow the reader to determine if he (or she) fits within that target audience.

Looking at the scores without looking at the words is flying blind. She may be a great woman, but she may not be a great woman for you. In my experience, for every 2 gentlemen who reach out to me with a clear understanding of who/what I am, and are seeking just that, there is an additional guy who saw my photos, saw the scores, and assumed I'll just fit his idea of an ideal woman/date. (Fortunately, those are pretty easy to spot, and gently redirect! )

As a final thought, the very attitudes and actions many men have around these scores only fuels the fire. We have a culture on TER where lower scores are often interpreted as more honest, unless the reviewer consistently low balls his scores. So, if a woman has several high marks, and then one or two low ones, the response is often "Ah ha! I knew she wasn't all that!" or "Seems companion X is slipping" etc, etc. TER's ranking system only adds to it all. Furthermore, my understanding is there is even a seedier underbelly in some cases: scores are furthermore given out as rewards (often for risky behavior, or for allowing a gentlemen experiences restricted to most other patrons), or as punishment (declining to see a gentleman or "firing" a previously seen one, walking out of a date due to inappropriate behavior or safety concerns, etc, etc.)

I do allow reviews, but personally feel that patrons who just avoid the whole issue are the wiser group. Why sour such an enjoyable activity with all of this mud and muck afterward?

The famous Ashley Taylor from New York.  While I'm willing to believe it was me, the experience could not have been more mechanical.  I wrote what I had experienced - and the next thing you know she's hassling me, reporting me to TER as a fake - total bulls**t.  In the end, I held my ground.

Alyx, you rock! Hope your good. VDM.  

But will you kiss my ass? Maybe next time? Do tell