I don't know you Eve but your picture is obviously not what the reviewer described. I honestly don't know what he's looking at but it's not your stomach. I do know Charlotte and there's no extra weight on her either. I don't get what these guys are looking for, maybe anorexic waifs? Do guys really find exposed rib cages and bony asses a turn on? I guess so...
Ladies, the best way to fight unfair reviews is to do exactly what Eve did - prove them wrong. Just a few weeks ago, a visiting friend of mine was fighting a couple of lousy reviews that claimed she gained 15 pounds when she's actually a size 2. Unfortunately, she had no recent pics to prove the reviewers wrong.
Eve, Charlotte and the rest of you spinners, stay healthy and don't let these screwed up reviews get to you. Speak up, prove the reviewers wrong and the rest of us guys with a healthy view of women's bodies will be more than happy to see you.
I realize everyone's a critic, but please make sure your facts are accurate before trying to rape someone's business. I'm a size 0; I can't get any smaller. I've been a consistent 100lbs average since middle school, can still wear my Seniors Girl Scout uniform (sorry boys, that's packed away at mom's house across the country). Charlotte Sweetheart, the last girl to see me naked, can vouch that the smallest available thigh highs barely stay on my legs. Those garter belts I wear aren't just for show. If I looked any smaller or younger, I'd look like a tween. So tell me, just how emaciated do you like your spinners?
are throwing stones where they really shouldn't. Unless you're on the fashion runways of Milan, (in which case, you should let me know) you have no bloody right to go on and criticize people's weight, especially of someone such as Eve, who takes good care of herself and resides in excellent health, wit, and charm. ' Charlotte (who has been called 'chubby' by several chubbies, herself, although, can those chubbies do the full splits?)
Posted By: Eve925
I realize everyone's a critic, but please make sure your facts are accurate before trying to rape someone's business. I'm a size 0; I can't get any smaller. I've been a consistent 100lbs average since middle school, can still wear my Seniors Girl Scout uniform (sorry boys, that's packed away at mom's house across the country). Charlotte Sweetheart, the last girl to see me naked, can vouch that the smallest available thigh highs barely stay on my legs. Those garter belts I wear aren't just for show. If I looked any smaller or younger, I'd look like a tween. So tell me, just how emaciated do you like your spinners?
That Entire Review SICKENS ME....geez you cannot please someone who is not a joyous person....and let me guess he looks like a male super model, who has a porn star cock?
I see E.V.E often and have worked with her several times. Good Lord she is as small as a female over the age of 12 can possibly be....
The review is degrading, mean spirited, and very revealing of the type of man he is.....I don't think the review will kill your business.....I think most hobbyist will be able to tell...this review is written by someone who is very out of touch with any sort of reality.
E.V.E I think you are a beautiful soul.....in and out.....your body is just fine...you are a very tiny lady with a huge heart....it is very unfortunate that some people cannot find joy or happiness within themselves so they have to be spiteful towards other people....he didn't say he had a bad session he just slammed the thickness of your body....which is outrageous.
I guess I would be MORBIDLY obese to him...and I wear a size 4-6.
His critique of your appearance does not seem unreasonable. While a size 0, you are not the most toned provider out there. That's a legitimate comment. If you notice, his performance rating is in line with your historical averages. It's clear that he enjoyed seeing you.
I applaud him for actually giving an honest appearance rating. Too many below average and average looking ladies get 8's or 9's precisely because providers like you get pissed if clients don't give them 8's or higher in appearance and clients need you to be a reference for future dates with others. The result is rating inflation. I can't tell you how many times I've walked into a provider's incall location only to be shocked that other reviewers deemed her to be attractive.
Get off your high horse and quit trying to bully clients for offering honest opinions. He's not trying to destroy your business. For once, he's trying to provide fellow hobbyists with accurate information.
His critique of your appearance does not seem unreasonable. While a size 0, you are not the most toned provider out there. That's a legitimate comment. If you notice, his performance rating is in line with your historical averages. It's clear that he enjoyed seeing you.
I applaud him for actually giving an honest appearance rating. Too many below average and average looking ladies get 8's or 9's precisely because providers like you get pissed if clients don't give them 8's or higher in appearance and clients need you to be a reference for future dates with others. The result is rating inflation. I can't tell you how many times I've walked into a provider's incall location only to be shocked that other reviewers deemed her to be attractive.
Get off your high horse and quit trying to bully clients for offering honest opinions. He's not trying to destroy your business. For once, he's trying to provide fellow hobbyists with accurate information.
BINGO. My vip ran out and I haven't renewed but what I saw in the non vip seemed like his honest opinion. thats what reviews are about is honest opinions. I like thin girls but much more importantly thin TONED girls. I have seen more thin girls over the years with no muscle tone than I can remember. I think that the reviewer was disappointed because he thought he was getting a toned thin girl and he felt he didn't. If any girl or guy disagrees with the reviewers opinion than thats just too bad for them. the review is about his views of the girl. Too many girls eat a poor diet, do too many drugs, or just starve themselves thinking that just being thin is it. Some guys may like that, just like some guys like girls who look like beached whales. Some guys like thin girls with great muscle tone, I think the reviewer is one of those. He may have thought he was getting a hard body with a visible 6 pack, he didn't and mentioned it in his review. Im glad there are still reviewers out there that aren't just ass kissers.
I saw this review and it is ridiculous. She admittedly is not the companion for everyone (and honestly not my cup of tea these days), but to slander her looks is disingenuous. Keep your head up, Little One, and let this roll off your back. Focus on all your other overwhelmingly positive reviews; I'm certain everyone else will do so.
I don't know you Eve but your picture is obviously not what the reviewer described. I honestly don't know what he's looking at but it's not your stomach. I do know Charlotte and there's no extra weight on her either. I don't get what these guys are looking for, maybe anorexic waifs? Do guys really find exposed rib cages and bony asses a turn on? I guess so...
Ladies, the best way to fight unfair reviews is to do exactly what Eve did - prove them wrong. Just a few weeks ago, a visiting friend of mine was fighting a couple of lousy reviews that claimed she gained 15 pounds when she's actually a size 2. Unfortunately, she had no recent pics to prove the reviewers wrong.
Eve, Charlotte and the rest of you spinners, stay healthy and don't let these screwed up reviews get to you. Speak up, prove the reviewers wrong and the rest of us guys with a healthy view of women's bodies will be more than happy to see you.
I don't know you Eve but your picture is obviously not what the reviewer described. I honestly don't know what he's looking at but it's not your stomach. I do know Charlotte and there's no extra weight on her either. I don't get what these guys are looking for, maybe anorexic waifs? Do guys really find exposed rib cages and bony asses a turn on? I guess so...
Ladies, the best way to fight unfair reviews is to do exactly what Eve did - prove them wrong. Just a few weeks ago, a visiting friend of mine was fighting a couple of lousy reviews that claimed she gained 15 pounds when she's actually a size 2. Unfortunately, she had no recent pics to prove the reviewers wrong.
Eve, Charlotte and the rest of you spinners, stay healthy and don't let these screwed up reviews get to you. Speak up, prove the reviewers wrong and the rest of us guys with a healthy view of women's bodies will be more than happy to see you.
I don't get this. He made a comment about her muscle tone and he's correct. You can be skinny and not very toned. There are providers out there who are in better shape. I don't see what the problem is. If he'd given her an 8 instead of a 7, Eve never would have started this thread.
If he had a bad experience, then he wouldn't have given her a 9 for performance.
God, you people really know how to circle the wagons in support of providers regardless of the fact that Eve is wrong.
women are supposed to have a higher percentage of body fat than men. At 100 pounds, I can't imagine she has much of any body fat period. I can see the reviewer's point if he wants a very toned woman and maybe Eve isn't the fitness model he expected. But his claim that she gained some weight relative to her pics is ludicrous based on the pic she posted.
Using 5'1" as her height and 100 pounds, she has a BMI of 18.9. As a point of reference, 18.5 is considered underweight so she's borderline. Now how much fat can she have if she's on the low end of normal? As much as the reviewer describes? Not possible.
Eve's point is that some guys expect women to be anorexic waifs. We see VS models and think all women should like that. If you want a VS model, go for it but good luck finding one who's of legal age AND affordable.
I'm sorry. I don't understand this whatsoever. This comes with the territory. I personally feel that this site now has a conflict of interest, when its initial intent was to be a clearinghouse of information about providers. I think most hobbyists here can discern hyperbole, individual subjectiveness, and reviews that are way from the norm. I have actually PM hobbyists and asked them what they were experiencing when they wrote their reviews, if they were way out of line. And sorry, you can complain how fat, huge, ugly a hobbyist is, but he still leaves you hundreds of dollars when all is said and done.
This woman is standing up for herself .Someone has taken it to the next level and said her looks basically dont match her photo which from the photo she has so kindly posted to prove him wrong .
We are all adults and are here to enjoy one another not bash one another . Money is one thing but trying to say something that could hurt someone and thats not even near true is very childish and crule .
As i said in my above post ,many women will not see reviewes that are disrepectful .We dont get paid to get disrespected as you dont meet us to be disrespected . This can go both ways ,play nice and you will always win.
If you had a bad experience, just say so but don't knock a girl's apprarance out of spite. Money shumoney. We do have feelings and are judged constantly and it effects our business as well as our mental well being.
I have turned into an anorexic because of it. I weigh 78 lbs. Now because of this. I am just messing but seriously take it easy on a woman's weight and age but still be honest cuz obviously she is a thin beauty...
My girl power speech is over and I am now going to work out to burn off the grape I just chowed on.
God I am so fat!
XXX-Giselke
Posted By: april_luv
is for .Thats what this rant is all about .
This woman is standing up for herself .Someone has taken it to the next level and said her looks basically dont match her photo which from the photo she has so kindly posted to prove him wrong .
We are all adults and are here to enjoy one another not bash one another . Money is one thing but trying to say something that could hurt someone and thats not even near true is very childish and crule .
As i said in my above post ,many women will not see reviewes that are disrepectful .We dont get paid to get disrespected as you dont meet us to be disrespected . This can go both ways ,play nice and you will always win.
This woman is standing up for herself .Someone has taken it to the next level and said her looks basically dont match her photo which from the photo she has so kindly posted to prove him wrong .
We are all adults and are here to enjoy one another not bash one another . Money is one thing but trying to say something that could hurt someone and thats not even near true is very childish and crule .
As i said in my above post ,many women will not see reviewes that are disrepectful .We dont get paid to get disrespected as you dont meet us to be disrespected . This can go both ways ,play nice and you will always win.
So now it's disrespectful to offer your own perception? And it's now disrespectful to post legitimate, honest appearance ratings? If you notice, the reviewer has given 9's and 10's for appearance before...just not as many as the providers would like.
OnePerDay...I respect your opinion but I have to say we need to agree to disagree and let's be nice about it. I mean absolutely no harm but, be in our world for just a few moments...this is not about a fee.
With all that said......Ok maybe this will make sense...bc I don't want anyone thinking we are all going insane:
It's like going to work as a typist...you type 120 wpm with no errors and doing everything you are asked to do, and doing it very very very well...you are never late, never take any unscheduled days off, you have a great track record for working overtime when you are asked to do so, your personal dress and grooming codes go above and beyond the company standards, you will travel last minute for your company, you have taken all the company sponsored courses you can take, and have completed a few college classes on your own, you get along very well with your co-workers, and you have never had any sort of corrective action....you get stellar quarterly and monthly reviews.....then when it is time for your annual review....your new boss issues you a "below standards"......like you have been fucking off for a whole year.
That would make me wanna choke new my boss....so I can honestly EARN a "below standards" review.
The inherent review is not that bad, in my opinion. Frankly, I glossed over the things that initiated the post. Why? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PART OF THIS GAME IS SUBJECTIVE. Did it affect my decision to see or not see this person? No. Had he said "barely worth the effort" I would have given the review more value because the hobbyist was established in the community.
Is Lady Gaga or Sasha Fierce the person or the persona? I don't know your real names nor your lives nor your real interests. I am spending time with a persona, not the real person. I respect that boundary. So, the reviews are based on that. You might get some that are not favorable. Again, it goes with the territory.
And he gave her high marks for that. Looks are subjective and while I personally disagree with the reviewer's comments on her looks, that's how he saw it that day.
I seriously doubt it will affect Eve's bookings whatsoever.
Girl you're gorgeous these guys have NO idea what they're talking about. One will tell you you're too thin the next will say your too big. That the business, don't listen to what anyone says.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but implying that you will not see a provider who is as trim as Eve until she tightens up and loses some imagined "flab" she supposedly has is just plain ludicrous. Guess you won't be seeing her again any time soon. I mean COME ON. You cannot get much smaller than a size ZERO. if you do, its a DOUBLE ZERO. The waist measurement coinciding with a size zero is 24". DO YOU KNOW HOW TINY THAT IS???? LOL, I do...and if you are that small, "flab" just does NOT exist, sorry.
Eve, you look absolutely GORGEOUS just as you are. Please don't take the reviewers words to heart. You're right--jeez--just how emaciated do you want us, gents? We are WOMEN and we are supposed to have CURVES. Curves are sexy. We aren't little boys.
Eve, will you either email me at [email protected] or PM me, hun? Wanted to ask you something...thanks!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but implying that you will not see a provider who is as trim as Eve until she tightens up and loses some imagined "flab" she supposedly has is just plain ludicrous. Guess you won't be seeing her again any time soon. I mean COME ON. You cannot get much smaller than a size ZERO. if you do, its a DOUBLE ZERO. The waist measurement coinciding with a size zero is 24". DO YOU KNOW HOW TINY THAT IS???? LOL, I do...and if you are that small, "flab" just does NOT exist, sorry.
Eve, you look absolutely GORGEOUS just as you are. Please don't take the reviewers words to heart. You're right--jeez--just how emaciated do you want us, gents? We are WOMEN and we are supposed to have CURVES. Curves are sexy. We aren't little boys.
Eve, will you either email me at [email protected] or PM me, hun? Wanted to ask you something...thanks!
Have a wonderful day, everyone!
Amber
That's idiotic. People can become more muscle toned without losing weight. Way to defend someone you want help from. Go team!
Lady who started the discussion made it abundantly clear that it is not about her displeasure with "bad" review.
Her professional representation and integrity was brought into question and quite frankly, she is one (if not the) of most ethical providers I have ever met.
Judging by the level of your attacks which don't seem to raise above playground's "and you wear glasses" , I highly doubt you were even able to comprehend her posts. That would require certain level of intelligence.
I've spent nearly 2.5 years building my reputation as an honest, don't pull punches, nothing sketchy in the shadows, transparent companion. I've never lied about my age, weight, opinion of a patron (good or bad), or even so much as ever used an alias on any board. I don't need to hide.
I could care less if someone thinks I'm fat. I don't even care about his opinion of whether I'm toned. I modeled through college and well after as an photographic artistic nude model, and my gentlemen friends actually prefer the fact that I have a classic figure despite my tiny size. To be honest, I don't even care about the score. As some of you said, he is indeed welcome to his opinion.
What I take issue with are lies and insinuations. Just like patrons dislike it when reviewers lie and give inflated scores, I dislike it when I am deliberately misrepresented and presented as dishonest. Let's review:
My last photo shoot was in early March 2011. I did not starve myself or do drugs in order to make myself look thin, or do anything to alter my body for the shoot. I also don't allow my photos to be heavily doctored. Other than coloration changes to create that wonderful sepia toned style, or the occasional blemish removal, the finished photos look like their original image proof counterparts. I take great care in selecting photographers who are reputed to actually listen to their models requests with regards to final touchups on photos.
Since March, I have not gained or lost any weight or tone. He's welcome to his opinion of my body. He's not welcome to call my integrity into question by claiming that I've gained weight since my shoot, thus claiming that I am deliberately misrepresenting myself. His review sounds as if potential patrons should expect to walk in expecting someone significantly different/larger from what the photos portray. This is the issue I have with his review, and thus the need to publicly prove that I am not larger than or physically changed since my photos.
He claims I am "getting back into" an exercise routine, which is not only a lie but further portrays this idea that I am somehow aware of a bodily issue and working to correct it. I've been seeing a pilates trainer for private lessons for well over 8 months, and that has to do with PT for fixing some alignment issues and being able to fuck longer and harder, not any concerns about my weight or level of tone. That's hardly "getting back into" an exercise routine. These are facts he knew well before even seeing me, thus giving him ample to time to inquire further.
If I thought I was physically unappealing, I'd go the route of nearly every other high end provider who claims she "got it in the gym" and go see a plastic surgeon for a bit of liposuction, or get a tan to make me look thinner, or...
One last lie-I don't prefer any condom over another. I elect to keep 6 different brands on hand, and do encourage experimentation. However, when a male condom just does not work for someone, then I will offer a female condom as an alternative.
I do not ever expect reviews to always be glowing. I do expect them to be honest.
Heaven forbid if you get a bad review. What then? Frankly, I stay away from providers who go bonkers over a few words. The review itself wouldn't stop me from booking you, but your rant certainly will.
I spent several consecutive days with Eve during a Vegas trip in February and found her body to be just as it appears in her photos. While she is not, nor likely to ever be a gym rat, she is very petite and I did not find any real fat on her....and I looked for a couple of days.
As far as her choice of Condoms is concerned Eve had a duffle bag filled with a variety products....from standard latex, female condoms and a unique non-latex version (my personal favorite). At no time was I ever presented with only a single option.....Eve has her preferences (and is never shy about expressing them) but I felt like I had a choice.
As a reviewer (and as one who has reviewed Eve) I reserve the right to call them as I see them and my idea of a 10 is very different from someone else.....that is what makes it interesting.
Boohoo has his opinion and is entitled to it....mine just happens to be significantly different.
Eve......speaking as a "playmate" and as one who knows a little about you I understand your frustration because I know the pride you take in your reputation. Trust me that yours will not be damaged by a single review or contrary opinion. Your body of work is too strong for that and strength of your other reviews speak for themselves.
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