Sent information to KP but never got reply. Some folks say RS2K would do the trick. But RS2K gives real name, number, and location to provers, which is scary to me.   So I'm wondering if anyone has passed their verification successfully without RS2K membership?  Please share your experience.  

Thanks!

Just move on.

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Rs2k asks for lot of info which can be dangerous in the hands of a bad provider.

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You will regret it.  It is stupid to give anyone all the info they want, never mind random strangers in this business.

 
Because RS2K requires a john to give a provider his first and LAST name, it's a dream come true for BSC providers, and there is no doubt that BSC providers have used this information for nefarious purposes.  

Many providers here constantly talk about how they love RS2K.  Well, of course they do, because it benefits them at huge expense to the hobbyist.  The client gives his first and last name, but the provider doesn't. So, guess who can blackmail who or blacklist for any reason, no matter how petty it is?  

I used RS2K in the past, but no more. I actually regret using it in the first place. Don't get me wrong. I never had any problems with the providers I saw when I used it (well, one time a provider I saw off of it had fake pics), but I was dumb enough to give out my first and last name.  I just hope that any of those providers I gave my personal info to never use that for evil purposes.  

I know preferred411 is not perfect, but I only use them now for the purposes of being screened. It's a hell of a lot more anonymous than RS2K.  With the high number of BSC providers out there, we cant afford to take the risk RS2K requires of us.

Actually,as a provider,I had to submit my driver's license to RS2K along with a phone pic,etc. so that is not completely true.However,I do agree, a shady provider(and they run abound!) can use your rw info to gain what they want from you or share with LE,neither are acceptable imo. So,I declined joining them.Also too many boards being infiltrated by le,I do not want any of my rw info available to anyone. Just my unsolicited .02.

Peyton, here's the problem. I believe you when you said that you have to submit drivers license, phone etc. to RS2K, but it's significantly less problematic for you and providers.  Why?  You are not required to provide your real first and last name to us. However, WE (the clients) are required to provide our first and last name to YOU (the providers).  Now, do you see why this is such a huge problem?

Despite my slight disagreement with you, I thank you for your sympathetic post that understands why many of us johns don't feel comfortable or no longer feel comfortable with RS2K, because it really jeopardizes our privacy, and I have known of a few BSC providers who use RS2K. Again, your post is a breath of fresh air. The normal reaction of providers towards negative posts about RS2K is usually something like "If you're not going to be a bad client, you shouldn't have any worries about providing your first and last name". I guarantee that most to all of these providers would not want to share their real first and last name with us, so the same argument they use can be used against them as well.

Furthermore, I don't know where you live. I see clients at my home.  

You run the risk of being outed.  

I run the risk of being murdered.  

Get over yourself. You're not important in the grand scheme of this world. Nobody gives zero fucks about you seeing whores.

Reread my posts, Einstein.  If you do, you'll notice that I have no problem with screening per se.  That's why I use p411. I don't want anyone, provider or client, getting raped or murdered, and because of that, I think screening is a must.  

My problem is with RS2K,not screening in general, because of its lack of discretion towards hobbyists.  Not only was your post incredibly stupid, but it lacked empathy.  First of all, men can get raped and/or murdered in this industry. Are you saying they can't?  Also, you minimize and blow off the possibility of a man being outed.  Do you realize what that can do to a man? It can cost him his job, family and more.  Or do you not give a shit about that?  

Why don't you think before posting once in a while, eh?  Maybe if you do this, you won't make as much of an ass of yourself.

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Their safety is critically important, ours not so much. RS2K is a dream come true for them, they get our real info. As an added bonus, we get the chance to be busted by those aggressive LE vice cops who are rank and file members of RS2K. Once they get their hands on a blabby provider and threaten her, she reels in all of her johnny boys and we get our photos posted on the internet. Isn't that fun?

I'm not making this shit up. It's happened and LE is on RS2K and P411 looking for their next targets. RS2K is an easier bust than P411, anyone care to guess why? LOL...

Providers want real info for one and only one reason - potential revenge. Stating that giving her your real info keeps her safe from being raped and murdered is nonsense. What she meant to say was that having your real info makes it easier to threaten you when she doesn't get the scores she desired.

As for being attacked and murdered, that works both way doesn't it? Like the G*****e exed who just got murdered by a BSC drug addict? Not to mention all the reports about johns getting beat up and robbed in Vegas casinos. Of course, picking up a casino girl or two is a pretty stupid move but newbies have no idea. But no, guys aren't at risk of being robbed or murdered, just the ladies. I'll remember that next time I ask to see her ID and demand to know her real name so I have blackmail info on her, LOL.

And if someone threatens to blackmail you- call the police! Seriously! Right away!
Nobody except maybe your wife cares if you're hiring companions and I promise they won't call her.

Highly suspicious hobbyists are a pain for many reasons.  RS2K tells me you're a grown man, really know how the system works, have complete confidence in your attorney and connections, and are unlikely to get spooked and turn on me.  Also, I've never had an RS2K member flake at the last minute.

Do what you like, but providers don't like RS2K because it "gives us the upper hand."

I will never join rs2k.  

It looks that all Korean agencies are crazily cautious when it comes to screening.  I tried DC Korean agencies. No replies at all. None of them use P411, where I got 5 okeys. They don't know about p411 or they just prefer customers who don't care their privacy ?

but there have been MANY, MANY instances where a vindictive provider has done exactly that and called some poor john's wife.

It doesn't happen often, but there is no way for a guy to screen out BSC in advance. Even highly reviewed providers go BSC on occasion, and sometimes for something as petty as an 8-8 review when she has been accustomed to bullying her way into nothing but 10-10 scores. The forums are full of such stories, too many for ALL the guys to be lying.

Personally I don't care if a woman has my real info, but I still would never give it out to the likes of RS2K knowing that they would and will give it out to every hooker, BSC or not, simply by her asking for it.

I think you misunderstand how RS2K works....

You wanna see a lady.
You tell her you're an RS2K member
She asks for information from YOU to verify if in fact you are an RS2K member...
RS2K is contacted by the lady, if all info is right on, it's an a-ok,  
if something is outta whack it's bounced back to her....

No one can go fishing at RS2K wondering who is a member.
You gotta give up YOUR info first to start the process.....

Not right to say RS2K gives out your information to anyone who asks.
They VERIFY information submitted from a lady