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Is it me, or are the lisitngs on RS2K looking slim?
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It seems like alot of old favorites have disappeared from that site and others. Smaller selection. Any thoughts on why?

I think some of the providers are not longer seeking new customers and have enough clients as of right now. This information I got through one of the girls I see that still advertises on RSK. Another girl who was off the site for a year just came back. Some of the girls don't want to pay the price or just were not satified with the amount of refurlls (sorry about the spelling) they recieved. Some still use the service but do not advertise.

RS2K may Appear to be slimming down. They have just revamped their site, actually, built a new site for the traveling ladies.

RS2K only lists the "Local Ladies".
RS2K Travel lists the "Touring Ladies"

PS Congratulations Olivia!

I was sitting at home enjoying my own company a few weeks back when I had an epiphany of sorts.  I had been waiting for business to pick up as it normally did in the fall and realized that it hadn't picked up this year and was unlikely to in the future.

Things have been slowing down for the past two years for me and I would guess for other ladies to based on what I have heard from others who have left.

It was no longer worth it financially to keep paying for advertising, rooms, upkeep (nails, waxing etc) and since the money wasn't coming in, the risk taking was also no longer worth it so I retired.

A week later I found out that I will have a little stranger showing up sometime next summer and that sealed my decision for good.  I will be spending my coming days getting married, gestating, and waiting my new house to be finished.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I was really shocked at how many people this past year have asked me for unprotected sex.  It seems to be a growing trend and I am glad I am out of rotation if that's the way things are going to be.

Olivia,
Future Soccer Mom, whoops Ashley-Jade just informed me that we will be Yoga Moms because it is cooler LOL.  ;)

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from a few providers that their business has been very slow and their cashflow's looking bad. The cost of verification and ad thr RS2K doesn't seem to be a lot for security but if you add things like what Olivia listed above, some providers may decide to quit.

Why is the business going slow? Gas price?

I am glad you did. It's not a long-term game or shouldn't be. Take care and sleep well.

Fonda Coxx2221 reads

You wrote: "how many people this past year have asked me for unprotected sex." And, you got pg. A correlation?

I had unprotected planned pregnancy sex with my fiance, NOT with any clients.  I'm not a freaking moron.  

I had one appointment in October and it was well covered.  But the ones I would tell that I wasn't on the pill scarily didn't seem to mind.  

Fertile Myrtle

Okay... I thought it was quite ironic that you chided the hobbyists for wanting bareback when it was you that loved it...LOL... But didn't you just get out of a bad marriage? Hmmm... I guess there's nothing like number#2.

Your comment makes NO SENCE!!  

"I thought it was quite ironic that you chided the hobbyists for wanting bareback when it was you that loved it..."  Where did you get this corilation from?  THEY(her and her fiance) WERE TRYING TO GET PREG, not practicing for the hell of it.  BESIDES WHO DOESN'T prefer it bare?  I don't know a single person who actually thinks "that is so hot, let me wrap your unit is saran wrap and have at it" with a PERSONAL partner "if" they have some other method going.

HOWEVER, Olivia is speaking of strangers or even if they are someone she met before it is NOT someone in her PERSONAL life.  BAREBACK FS SHOULD be reserved for only 1 special person in your own PERSONAL life, there is NO PLACE for it in the hobby.

When I first came into the hobby back in the begining of 2001, there was a case that I still think about...  I will not mention names here, but there was a girl who was rumored to have offered these services to her trusted guests.  She retired as I came in, but people on the boards were chiding her from spreading around STD's and for possibly being preg and "blaiming" it on one of her guests.  They blaimed HER!!  Reality check, she has to have gotten it somewhere because you can't get an STD out of the air.  The warning signs for women are relatively less ummm showing then w/men so a fem may not even know till it is time for her next round of testing.  I understand that guests will sometimes take as much rope as you will give them, however if they get enough to hang themselves with then they should realize that it could happen.  They may not, but they may.  BAREBACK anything has inherent risks, and each should choose where they draw the line.  However BAREBACK FS is one line that unless you desire an STD or PREG to follow and pay child support on then DON'T go there.  But for ANY man to chatise a provider who offers them said services if there is a less then flowery outcome is completely out of line as well.  The choice is a 2way street, and trust me NO female is going to make you go bare in this hobby...  This subject just makes me soo angry.

Guys have told me of ladies who offer these services.  Shoot, I have even heard of a lady(not me or any of my friends) who got the clap and passed it to several people without letting them know and never bothered to call the guys to let them know they might want to get checked(probibly for fear of her rep).

As far as your comments about Olivia's personal situation, I have to say that you are out of line.  She is a very open and sharing provider who has done nothing to deserve your childish comments.  She is an adult who made a not so good choice a short time back, which many have made(she had been with the same person so long that she thought that next step would save her relationship, haha how many guys have figured out that IT DOESN'T).  

You, my dear handsfree have posted a very sardonic/chiding post regarding a wonderful woman...  My current veiw of you is now severely tarnished.  GL in the hobby my dear, your escape from normal reality.

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-- Modified on 11/13/2005 9:28:03 AM

I was kidding her... you need to chill. Didn't you see the smiley face?

I don't pay any attention to those "feelings" as TER puts it that are posted at the front of messages, most don't use them correctly(like an :-X at the begining of an ad post, thought that was NOT a good thing).  I have found that WORDS are what most on this board pay attention to.  Yours spoke volumes.  

If you were joking, why not a (kidding) or the all to famous (just riding you) which can be used in a duel manner.

Oh well...

"Guys have told me of ladies who offer these services.  Shoot, I have even heard of a lady(not me or any of my friends) who got the clap and passed it to several people without letting them know and never bothered to call the guys to let them know they might want to get checked(probibly for fear of her rep)."

Those guys who tell you things like that have no class whatsover, just like any provider who tells guys stuff like that, and names ladies. Did it ever occur to you that gossip like that just might be lies? This little post of mine may well keep certain ladies from wanting to see me out of respect to you, but so be it. Handsfree is a good guy and a well respected poster on TER(I wish I was as respected) and he didn't deserve the bitter display in your post. None of the guys over here at TER deserve it...I can't speak for TBD because I don't give a shit what goes on there.

There are some wonderful ladies that are friends of yours, Amber and Kelly are two that I have met and really like and respect. Lets hope that because you have issues with certain men, that they can act independently without risking your friendship, and maintain a business relationship with those men you have issues with.

I really wish you would post here more often and show your sweet side Sage, I have never seen it displayed here and I KNOW you have that sweet side...I have met you a few times. This other side of you is one you should refrain from displaying, it does you no good to show it. Not everyone is going to like you or me, or Olivia, or Handsfree or anyone else...so keep that in mind when reading posts. I know it is hard to keep from banging out angry messages....that used to be my major fault, but Handsfree is a good guy who said something you mistook for insults or whatever. I read his post to Olivia as being playful because of the preceding smiley face. On TER you have the advantage of seeing the tone of the post whereas on TBD you don't. Another reason I see this site as superior to that one. (shameless plug!  lol)

The bottom line of my post is that some of you ladies need to be around, and participate on  this board more often, so you can understand the different personalities in THIS sandbox. I certainly dont want or need anyone to preach to me about the benefits or dangers of bareback sex....I am quite aware of all of it, as I am sure the other guys are also. You need to understand that the guys on this board are every bit as intelligent as you and the other providers, as scary as that may be for you to accept. That last sentence was meant to provoke a smile btw.

Thanks for reading my "manifesto"

Sojourner... you are respected and I trust what you say in your reviews and as history would show, you have a ton of great comments and observations. Sometimes people speak out of turn rather than PMing the person to say WTF. You see Sage could have done that, but she took an innocent and playful retort to Oliva's message as I was trashing her. Did she not see my message of congratulations? Well, perhaps she ignored that. Oliva was a well-thought of provider and a regular contributor to these threads. We've bantered back and forth before and as I recall, I don't make a regular habit out of trashing people or their reputations. I read Sage's comment several times and they sound more like a rant at something much larger than me (or it should have been). I fully expected Olivia to come back with her own retort and if I did make her mad, she has proven that she doesn't lose sleep over what's on these boards; none of us should. So all us can grow thicker skin and know that unless you truly understand the post, count to 10 and send a PM to the person before making yourself look silly.

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you are right, you touched a nerve.

Things are starting to get out of hand and your ummm misconstrued comment hit it hard.  Rant, perhaps but if people were trying to take advantage of situtations which could possibly endanger your life all the time wouldn't you?

You just caught the brunt of it from me, but as you have also heard from Olivia this is not in fact something isolated.

Now that you have further clarified yourself I will try not to hold your comments against you.  I have a tenancy to be VERY protective of my friends, and run very hot and cold(either I care alot or I just don't).  I was just protecting my friend.

PM, if I feel I need to then I will.  Not everything needs to be handled via BC, and personally I don't think I look silly in my comment.  Anyone could have read your comment and thought you were serious.

I will from here on out moderate my posts here as it seems like the gents here can't HANDLE an opinionated fem...  Maybe posting here is just a waste of time.  Anyone who expects to be able to post as they wish, but expect others to PM them first before they respond...  Well...  Whatever, I am done here..  I need some sleep so I can get some bootie, I am just tooo cranky to be posting but refuse to think I am intirely in the wrong.  

Somethings you just dont joke about.

Believe me, I wasn't raised in a family where divorce is normal.  We joke that the only way out of the family is to go crazy and disappear or die.

So I did catch a lot of shit for deciding to divorce because they didn't know we were even having problems.  And believe me I have a huge family so there was a lot of shit to deal with.  I was recently snubbed by some of them in August at my cousin's wedding because I brought my fiance with and the last time most of those relatives saw me was at my wedding.  

I know my mom has an idea that I've been in a shady sort of work and that some really bad things happened in my marriage but she doesn't know specifics and doesn't ask for them.

She raised us to be independent, think for ourselves, make our own decisions and deal with the outcomes of those decisions.

If my mom, dad, siblings, grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles etc. can deal with all this, so can the rest of the clan.  Call me optomistic, but new babies have a way of absolving all past sins.  ;)

Besides, how their father and I met will make for an interesting discussion when they are old enough to hear the truth.  

I suppose I'd better blog something about it before the rumor mill takes off anymore.

The story of this provider was not told me by a guest, rather a provider who found out about this(she was friendly with the lady for a short time) and had to decline to see one of her(said lady w/clap) guests and inform him of his need to test.  So, rumor...  No, so guys be careful.  If she offers something to you, she will offer it to anyone and who know who she has been with..

As far as the sweet kinder, gentler side of Sage...  I have had tons of stress lately, moving sucks(nothing works when you first move in) and trying to get everything going has been hard.  Now that everything is in check I am more settled.

However, you state that the men in this hobby are as intelligent as the provider and though I know most men that participate are on average MORE intelligent or at least educated then the ladies some of the things in it make me question that.  The HUGE push for BBFS has been out of hand, shoot MORE THEN HALF the time the gent tries to get to close for comfort(knee block and scoot work well) before I can even get my hands towards a cover.  Once you scoot away and grab for one they kind of sigh and roll their eyes.  I do find this very distrubing.  Educated minds know that this type of service is dangerous, and should not be offered in such a open forums.

As far as holding my tongue because certain sides of me may not be found as attrative to some guests...  No thanks, I am who I am and not afraid of it.  If my opinions threatens a mans manhood then I am just to strong willed for them and they should stay away.  However you know what they say where there is smoke there is fire...  My fire is just as evident when upset as it is in the sack, HOT to SMOLDERING.  You of all people know this.  Though you found me to rough around the edges for your taste.  But I refuse to pander or "act" just to make a gent happy.

I am me, that is it.

Me, I wanna wanna...  So hopefully some really great play is coming my way, want some of that hot making out felling like I am in high school sneaking it on the couch type....followed by yummy licking, sucking, grasping pleasure...  Total gratification for both parties, with wet hot sweaty bodies slapping against each other...  Demanding a shower after for need of washing the sticky smells of lust off...  

Dam, I need some bootie...

I guess in his mind I was supposed to stay married to a man who became physically abusive immediately after the wedding.  I guess I should have looked forward to getting my knee x-rayed because I was picked up to shoulder height (he's 6'3" and has 100 lbs on me) and slammed down on the hard kitchen floor and having to tell the nurse that "I fell".  No matter that the first 8 years I lived with him he never did anything like that.  

No matter that he told me he wanted kids and then after we married told me I had to put off kids and stay in the business for another 5 years until I had bought a Harley for him and had it paid off.  Now I loved being in the business, but I'm 30 and I think having kids is more important that having a hunk of metal in the garage.

So I took up with someone as I was working on getting out of my nightmarish marriage.  So what?  I didn't wreck anyone's home except my own and it was already pretty much wrecked from the start.  My family knew my marriage was over at Thanksgiving and I moved in with my fiance in April.  I have known him since fall of 2003 and could hardly be accused of jumping into anything.

Scandal! Scandal! He was a client of mine until October of last year.  So?  He's single, makes me laugh, takes care of me when I'm sick and excited as hell that he's going to he a husband and father.  My ex?  He spends his time "jamming" Death Metal with his friends in the basement and throwing "keggers" which our old mutual friends feel too old and out of place to attend.  But he's happy becuase he didn't want to be a father or even a husband no matter how much he told me the opposite.  He gets to pretend he's 22 and that's cool, but I'd rather act my age.

My parents approve of my fiance (why wouldn't they?  My dad had always told me to marry someone like my fiance) and the rest of my family likes him as well since he always makes it to family functions which my ex found tedious.

Sorry to disappoint everyone and take the scandal away, but this pregnancy was planned.  True, we though it would take longer as I had been on the pill for seven years, but my man is extremely virile (bats eyelashes) so I'm not too surprised that it happened so quickly.  I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone who was a member of my yahoo group as I mentioned months ago my plan to retire at the end of the year, get married and start a family - though it's not following that order or timeline LOL.

Thank you Sage for your friendship and support.  I guess some people look for scandal everywhere.

Look, if my family isn't upset about all this, no one else should be.




 

As a lurker on the boards and a newbie to the hobby, but someone who has been around the net since Al Gore invented it, here's my two cents.  I've always felt that in a public forum, revealing personal information about another that they themselves have chosen not to publically air, is inappropriate.  Since I am fairly new to TER, I don't know how much Olivia had previously revealed about her personal life on the boards, so I don't know whether Handsfree crossed that line or not.  I did however see the tongue in cheek nature of his post (although I did not agree with the content) but others obviously didn't.  Kudos to Sage for passionately calling him out on it, and standing up for a fellow provider.

Best of luck to you Olivia in your future endeavors.  Your personal life is definitely progressing in a more positive direction and I'm sure that you will have a very gratifying life shared with a great guy and a bunch of wonderful kids.

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