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HangingwithBears 887 reads
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And I'll probably be attacked for saying this, but BB is more common around here than it used to be. Either that or we're just hearing more about it. But...the fact that known BB providers keep coming back here tells you there are guys in Chicago looking to play dangerous and liking it. NYC is the worst and from what providers tell me, there is no mid-tier there anymore. It's either high-buck BBFS or low-buck BBFS off of BP. The safety girls have all but disappeared in NYC. Is that what's happening here? Probably to some extent and you might be on to something about why it's so slow. Providers also tell me they get a LOT of calls requesting BBFS. It's not hard to figure out why this is happening.

Yes, there are some 10/10 safety girls that truly deserve those scores. I can think of one mature off the top of my head. The question is, are those true 10/10's getting the high-bucks from their scores or simply because they're hot and great at what they do?

titan901789 reads

Performance 8????????

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BRIT871030 reads

But I do believe the score is based on the profile, isn't it?

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1192967859 reads

...mean you have to give it. Though I guess like appearance performance could be in the mind of the reviewer. As you can see below I don't consider this an 8 performance.

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BRIT87915 reads

Checking the rules once in a while does not hurt.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/info_policies/reviewSubmission.asp

"This does not mean she earns extra points for performing the service; just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is taken. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she has, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score."

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RussianWithLove823 reads

helping those still learning how to count to 10.

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titan90674 reads

Posted By: RussianWithLove
helping those still learning how to count to 10.
Agreed.  
Just pointing out more evidence.

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titan90761 reads

So she WAS eligible for the 8 thanks to her profile.
But did the text of the new review read like an 8??

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seeker000783 reads

Are you incredulous about the score being too high vs. the juicy details or too low vs. the juicy details?  I couldn't tell from your 8 question marks.

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titan90835 reads

To high. I'm sure most understood me.
I over did the question marks?
I apologise.

Posted By: seeker000
Are you incredulous about the score being too high vs. the juicy details or too low vs. the juicy details?  I couldn't tell from your 8 question marks.
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MissErinBlack826 reads

I can't seem to remember it..  

Let me think. I know it's in my brain somewhere.  

Almost got it...
Almost....

Disco!

Perhaps you've heard of it... The phrase is "your mileage may vary".  

Nothing is objective. Who is anyone to judge another's review based on the number score? The "juicy details" gives you everything you'd need to know about the interaction. So, why care about numbers so much?

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HangingwithBears776 reads

I think providers care way too much about scores because they think hobbyists select them based on scores alone. While there may be guys who look only at scores, most of us know the scores are skewing higher all the time and we no longer trust them. Those providers who think pages of 10/10 scores make us want to see them are smoking something. Long-term reputation goes along with the scores so someone here with the initials EA might have tons of high scores but she has the reputation to go with them. Then there are the 10/10's that are forced by coercion and threats and we know who those girls are as well. Rest assured those 10/10's are doing them no good.

The numbers need to go. Accurate written text would be much more helpful than numerical scores and would be subject to less manipulation by providers.

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Jacque_Jenesais723 reads

From most men here?

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RussianWithLove863 reads

I can't believe people pay that much to fuck.  Imagine how many starving kids that extra 500 could feed.  I do believe you guys should be compensated properly but ffs 1000 for an hour?  I could have a 6 some for that amount and still have enough left over for takeout to feed all of them.

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Jacque_Jenesais1164 reads

With the $500 per appointment you saved, how many starving children did you feed?

If $40 worth/month, it's a non-issue and isn't a factor in this... at all... lol


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Jacque_Jenesais1174 reads

tip her $100! :D

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RussianWithLove1058 reads

and if I took you out, with your tastes, it wouldn't last the night..... lmao

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Jacque_Jenesais675 reads

I like good company over overpriced food. And I wish I could have charged $1,000/hour... but... maybe in a few years lol.

But I do have a taste for a nice, well kept sausage!

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Arovet736 reads

That Irish sausage is the wurst

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Chsssssssssssssh!

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Jacque_Jenesais616 reads

I just enjoy it. You keep it. :D

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Russian with love! ;)

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MissBreeBreeze708 reads

If you get slapped in the face, endure cannings, choking and electrical play... I don't see how 750plus is a problem. The more interests you have the more $ you should receive. It's hard work and sometimes requires lots of props and clean up. There is more to it...I stay at hotels that set me back 350+ a night and have to buy special wardrobe often. I even buy nice wine/champagne and sweets for every playdate.  

 

Posted By: RussianWithLove
I can't believe people pay that much to fuck.  Imagine how many starving kids that extra 500 could feed.  I do believe you guys should be compensated properly but ffs 1000 for an hour?  I could have a 6 some for that amount and still have enough left over for takeout to feed all of them.
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HangingwithBears1298 reads

Years ago, 8's were the norm. Nowadays, giving an 8 is almost considered an insult.

But to answer your question...there are three categories of providers on this board. The first type is the stunning beauty with a perfect body. They can pull off these high rates without offering "special" services. The second type is the vast majority of providers who are pretty but not model stunning and don't have perfectly toned bodies. The third type is the mature provider who while she may be very pretty and still have a well-toned body, is not in demand so much anymore. Categories two and three have a difficult time getting the high prices you quote so they resort to other techniques to raise their scores and prices. Do I have to draw a picture of the "special" services offered?

Do this GP... look through some of the older providers, let's say mid to late 40's (although their age range may read 31-35 or 35-40, or 40-45 but they are really 45-50). Correlate the mature providers with the high rates you quote and look for pages and pages of 10/10 scores. I'd give an example of one such provider here but I would be attacked mercilessly by the WK's so I won't give names. I will say that a woman approaching 50 can't pull down those high rates and pages of 10/10 reviews without offering something "extra" and you know exactly what that is.

The short answer is yes, an 8 provider can pull off $750-1000/hour but do to so, she'll have to offer BB everything. Look through the mature GLS providers who visit Chicago regularly and charge $750+ and you'll understand how they're getting the rates they demand. Of course, their scores get pushed up to 10 because they'll fuck BB in both holes. A smart hobbyist like me sees that correlation and runs in the other direction. No way would I see any of those 10/10 providers.

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Jacque_Jenesais1035 reads

I have heard this, but since I'm not there, I really can't say anything about it. BUT, the amount I have heard it is ridiculous from all angles, and it's scary.

I wonder if that's why some ladies are complaining that it is slow in Chicago lately. Because guys are spending all their dough to receive BB services over covered. I see why a guy would pay for that, but I think it's supremely unsafe to the point where I never even considered it while dating.  

Good point, but know some 10/10's earn those scores. I've met some, and - just - wow.

xoxoxo

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HangingwithBears888 reads

And I'll probably be attacked for saying this, but BB is more common around here than it used to be. Either that or we're just hearing more about it. But...the fact that known BB providers keep coming back here tells you there are guys in Chicago looking to play dangerous and liking it. NYC is the worst and from what providers tell me, there is no mid-tier there anymore. It's either high-buck BBFS or low-buck BBFS off of BP. The safety girls have all but disappeared in NYC. Is that what's happening here? Probably to some extent and you might be on to something about why it's so slow. Providers also tell me they get a LOT of calls requesting BBFS. It's not hard to figure out why this is happening.

Yes, there are some 10/10 safety girls that truly deserve those scores. I can think of one mature off the top of my head. The question is, are those true 10/10's getting the high-bucks from their scores or simply because they're hot and great at what they do?

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MissBreeBreeze847 reads

That's really presumptuous. I don't offer BB for any hole. I do however take an aggressive choking, nipple torture amongst other things. I think some of us who charge more based on our interests.  

Some girls allow pics, allow video, like to kicked in the butt,  punched, fisted etc... you can't tell me that those aren't as valuable as BB. I mean BB isn't THE reason for high considerations.  

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
Years ago, 8's were the norm. Nowadays, giving an 8 is almost considered an insult.  
   
 But to answer your question...there are three categories of providers on this board. The first type is the stunning beauty with a perfect body. They can pull off these high rates without offering "special" services. The second type is the vast majority of providers who are pretty but not model stunning and don't have perfectly toned bodies. The third type is the mature provider who while she may be very pretty and still have a well-toned body, is not in demand so much anymore. Categories two and three have a difficult time getting the high prices you quote so they resort to other techniques to raise their scores and prices. Do I have to draw a picture of the "special" services offered?  
   
 Do this GP... look through some of the older providers, let's say mid to late 40's (although their age range may read 31-35 or 35-40, or 40-45 but they are really 45-50). Correlate the mature providers with the high rates you quote and look for pages and pages of 10/10 scores. I'd give an example of one such provider here but I would be attacked mercilessly by the WK's so I won't give names. I will say that a woman approaching 50 can't pull down those high rates and pages of 10/10 reviews without offering something "extra" and you know exactly what that is.  
   
 The short answer is yes, an 8 provider can pull off $750-1000/hour but do to so, she'll have to offer BB everything. Look through the mature GLS providers who visit Chicago regularly and charge $750+ and you'll understand how they're getting the rates they demand. Of course, their scores get pushed up to 10 because they'll fuck BB in both holes. A smart hobbyist like me sees that correlation and runs in the other direction. No way would I see any of those 10/10 providers.

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Posted By: MissBreeBreeze
Some girls allow pics, allow video, like to kicked in the butt,  punched, fisted etc... you can't tell me that those aren't as valuable as BB. I mean BB isn't THE reason for high considerations.
Girls like to be kicked in the ass and punched? Holy shit, what's this called the Domestic Violence Experience

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MissBreeBreeze632 reads

NO. Not true! I've been to many BDSM workshops. I've watched demonstrators literally have a intense orgasm from some of the below mentioned. It's not violence if its done right. If you have a high tolerance for pain, which many do like myself you an turn it into pleasure. I'd suggest you research more about it before assuming its domestic violence.  

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
Posted By: MissBreeBreeze
Some girls allow pics, allow video, like to kicked in the butt,  punched, fisted etc... you can't tell me that those aren't as valuable as BB. I mean BB isn't THE reason for high considerations.
   
 Girls like to be kicked in the ass and punched? Holy shit, what's this called the Domestic Violence Experience?  
 

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HangingwithBears661 reads

Definitely NOT my cup of tea and I sure don't want to read about it. No thanks.

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MissBreeBreeze558 reads

Variety is great. If you never experienced then you can't hate on it. It's not what you think.  I'm not here to convert you, but no needy to be so  harsh.  

But I hope I opened your mind. Girls aren't calling for high gifts for basic vanilla things. Don't underestimate the skills and work ethic of top girls. Many of us are powerhouse and we love what we do.  

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
Definitely NOT my cup of tea and I sure don't want to read about it. No thanks.

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HangingwithBears480 reads

I'm hating on the violence - kicking, hitting, punching. There's nothing sexy about those things, they turn my stomach. I can watch guys get beat up on TV but I can't watch a woman take a beating. That's the way I'm wired, sorry for being plain vanilla. All of us have our limits. I have to wonder about the clients you see who find this stuff a turn-on. My guess is they won't find many providers who allow them to be violent... you may very well be the only one. What you're describing seems to go way beyond BDSM which itself is of no interest to me. Yeah, I'm boring..

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MissBreeBreeze511 reads

You have to realize that there is a difference between what you see in commercial films/tv and BDSM. Think about this way in the art of kung-fu you are taught to channel and center your energy so you can take intense hits. BDSM is sorta like that, but more more sensual. These acts help aid in channelling and centering sexual energy to lead to something out this world. It's hard to explain... this is about the closes comparison.  

You think I'd market myself as a punching bag?! I'm not for violence against women in any form. I am for ultimate sexual experiences though.  

 
To wonder about the people I see well you are alluding to something maybe being off about their interests. Not at all. I don't see lots of people and have a small group of friends who I've grown with and have had many fun adventures with. Flogging, rope binding, hitting and so on requires trust. It also needs to be done safely.  A lot of times these things build, they don't start off intense. We are all curious and sexual people. I'm always looking for ways to take my sexuality to another level as our my playtime friends. Don't assume those of us who flirt with the "taboo" are cold hearted crazies. We are simply open to trying new things.  

 
 I remember not liking peas when I was a kid... now I do. :)  

 
BDSM is just on aspect of my encounters there are lots of other things that I like. You were originally, stating that girls charging a lot do so, because the offer BB and I started mentioning why I and maybe others ask for higher considerations.  

 
To me my interests are out there like fire eating, sword eating etc... A bit out there but for someone it's awesome for others not so much. But it exist, as I do and those who appreciate my interest do.  

 
How do you know it goes outside the realm of BDSM? Do you know about the realm of BDSM? I attend workshops, read and practice this regularly.  

I didn't mean to say vanilla in a insulting way. Just simply utilized it for the sake of comparison. I totally get why 1000 a hour for gfe would lead to assumptions or in your case proof that some do offer BB... I wanted to let you know about us outliers.  

I'm not the only Heavy BDSM provider here. You have not met and can't even begin to really say much about me. So please don't sit here trying to stitch a scarlet letter on me. It's sad that you are abashing me for being different.  

 

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
I'm hating on the violence - kicking, hitting, punching. There's nothing sexy about those things, they turn my stomach. I can watch guys get beat up on TV but I can't watch a woman take a beating. That's the way I'm wired, sorry for being plain vanilla. All of us have our limits. I have to wonder about the clients you see who find this stuff a turn-on. My guess is they won't find many providers who allow them to be violent... you may very well be the only one. What you're describing seems to go way beyond BDSM which itself is of no interest to me. Yeah, I'm boring...  
   
 

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Tobi Telford491 reads

So it's your assertion that when a particular lady is not up to your personal standards of what constitutes a 10/10, yet many others have found her to be just that, that's proof positive that she offers BBFS? I agree with Bree, that's egregiously presumptuous.  

By your standards, no one over 30 could possibly be considered a 10 in the looks department. Why is it that your personal tastes set the standard for top tier attractiveness? I'll tell you this much: most guys my age actually prefer older women, so by their standards, they wouldn't rate anyone my age as a 10. Are their opinions "wrong" simply because they're not in alignment with yours? And because of that, those ladies are certainly offering BBFS? How is it that you know that? I mean, you obviously don't see ladies over a certain age, so you don't exactly have anecdotal evidence of these supposed "special services," do you? So you're essentially basing your claims on either rumors or assumptions.  

I don't even have a dog in this fight, but there's something really irritating about that sort of stereotyping.  

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
Years ago, 8's were the norm. Nowadays, giving an 8 is almost considered an insult.  
   
 But to answer your question...there are three categories of providers on this board. The first type is the stunning beauty with a perfect body. They can pull off these high rates without offering "special" services. The second type is the vast majority of providers who are pretty but not model stunning and don't have perfectly toned bodies. The third type is the mature provider who while she may be very pretty and still have a well-toned body, is not in demand so much anymore. Categories two and three have a difficult time getting the high prices you quote so they resort to other techniques to raise their scores and prices. Do I have to draw a picture of the "special" services offered?  
   
 Do this GP... look through some of the older providers, let's say mid to late 40's (although their age range may read 31-35 or 35-40, or 40-45 but they are really 45-50). Correlate the mature providers with the high rates you quote and look for pages and pages of 10/10 scores. I'd give an example of one such provider here but I would be attacked mercilessly by the WK's so I won't give names. I will say that a woman approaching 50 can't pull down those high rates and pages of 10/10 reviews without offering something "extra" and you know exactly what that is.  
   
 The short answer is yes, an 8 provider can pull off $750-1000/hour but do to so, she'll have to offer BB everything. Look through the mature GLS providers who visit Chicago regularly and charge $750+ and you'll understand how they're getting the rates they demand. Of course, their scores get pushed up to 10 because they'll fuck BB in both holes. A smart hobbyist like me sees that correlation and runs in the other direction. No way would I see any of those 10/10 providers.

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HangingwithBears555 reads

It's the reality of what this hobby is turning into. You misread the point of the post and inferred incorrect conclusions as a result. Reread the third paragraph carefully, it states MATURE providers (45+) who are getting many pages of 10/10's and charging exorbitant rates. I was NOT talking about 20's or 30's or even early 40's for that matter but you zeroed in on the 30 age group for some reason. Maybe you missed the part about some older providers falsifying their profile ages by as much as 10-15 years. The ones doing this also happen to be known BBFS providers and have many pages of 10/10 reviews that they don't deserve while charging $700+/hour.

I can back up my claim of aging providers offering BBFS for high bucks and 10/10 reviews with names, none of which I'm sharing here or on any public board. You have no understanding of the research I've done nor my sources or methods. You believe I'm making assumptions based on rumors but I'm afraid you're completely wrong my dear.

And to correct you on another point, I see a number of providers in their late 30's and early 40's, all of whom are wonderful. One is a stunning 10 in beauty, performance, and personality. You have no clue what my taste in women is nor what my standards are nor do you know what my upper age limit is but rest assured it's higher than you think.

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RussianWithLove683 reads

This is why I don't review.  Never have, never will.  No one is going to have the same experience as me, good, bad, or inbetween.  So it's silly to think I might have the same experience as someone else whose review I'm reading.  All I care about is if the photo's are recent and accurate.  The rest is truly up to me and what I bring to the table.

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MissBreeBreeze758 reads

I keep all my sausage wrapped in a bun. I keep the sausage loving the wrapped bun by keep things very interesting....Public play, dungeon visits etc...

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RussianWithLove652 reads

Um...  When you say dungeon, what exactly do you mean?  Do you mean like dungeons and dragons we pretend and pull some cards, roll some dice and make shit up or........

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MissBreeBreeze621 reads

No, I mean lifestyle dungeons. Not sure what I mean... check out kink(dot)com  

We all have our turn on and turn offs. Not everything involves you entering a hole. :)  

Posted By: RussianWithLove
Um...  When you say dungeon, what exactly do you mean?  Do you mean like dungeons and dragons we pretend and pull some cards, roll some dice and make shit up or........

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maybe44712692 reads

YMMV--truer words were never spoken. I had at least one truly bad experience with a very highly rated provider and a number of amazing experiences with poorly reviewed inexpensive (actually downright right bottom cheap to be honest) providers. It all depends on your personal chemistry with the providers, as well as what you want and like. Details are important. For me, for instance, a covered BJ is a deal breaker as I simply don't enjoy it. And I generally prefer a bigger woman to a thin one. But different strokes for different folks.

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