Just got out of a long-term relationship and wanting that feeling of a girlfriend again. I don't engage in this behavior regularly but I am visiting the city on business this Sunday night and looking to find a wonderful upscale GFE provider who is open to BBFS. I know I am going to get judged for this but really looking to have a more intimate encounter. I'm looking to grab cocktails first and then head up to my room at the Sofitel. I am very clean cut, upscale, intelligent and definitely 100% disease free. Looking for suggestions of the more open-minded ladies out there. Please PM me.
Thanks!
I can't believe someone would post this under a non-alias.
For someone that just got out of a LTR, you sure know the Terms of the Business. BBFS Providers are UTR. (under the radar). You won't get any offers from Ladies for BBFS. My suggestion is to look or ask Ladies if they would like to see you. Looking for BBFS right out of the Gate won't get you any offers. BBFS Providers are out there. But you have to get to know the Ladies first before you even ask for this type of Service. And the Ladies must have a lot of Trust in you before they even offer this to you. just my 2 cents.
I for one want to know who's engaging in this reckless behavior. Knowledge is power, and I prefer to be informed when it comes to who's playing Russian roulette with their lives.
Oh ya, and if I can get one of those cool ailments like herpes or HIV for a lifetime souvenir, that would be fun too!
Please tell me you were totally wasted when you posted this. I am all about the intimate relationship that blurs the line between fantasy and reality, and I can assure you there are plenty of ladies that can do this with far less risk.
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You really are an embarrassment to the TER community to even post this question.
You forgot to post your room number. BTW - the BBFS you'll be getting is with Rosie Palmer this weekend.
And my guess is it just became significantly harder to see any woman in Chicago after announcing his reckless attitude.
So you guys and gals have Never had or done BBFS. Well at least you won't Admit it.
And I don't think anyone is under the delusion that the relationships found here are monogamous
BBFS and unprotected intercourse within the confines of a monogamous relationship are not the same thing, bro.
Unless it's your assertion that we've all engaged in BBFS within the hobby, in which case you are sorely mistaken.
I've never even done that in normal life, I'm far too untrusting. I'm not the type to judge, but there are less painful ways to kill yourself OP.
That line of argument has never made sense to me at all.
Look, in the off chance that you have gotten any responses, ask yourself why you would want to see that lady would offer it to just anyone who posts on a message board? Because if she's willing to do it with you, my guess is that she's done it with plenty others.
Also, how would you know if she was on birth control or not? You may not think that matters, but in this case I would hope to God that the lady in question would at the very least need your full name and employment information. If if she has that and gets pregnant (either by accident or by choice... you never know) you can have fun paying child support payments for the next 18 years (but hey, you're upscale, you can afford it).
Also, how do you know you are "definitely 100% disease free"? When was the last time you got tested? And what sort of test was it (blood, urine, both)? Did it test for herpes I and II, HPV, and all three forms of hepatitis? Have you had sex or any type of sexual encounter three months before you took the test? (certain HIV tests do not detect the virus if it's only been in your system a short amount of time). Have you had any sex or sexual encounter after the test? I'm sorry but not going to take a stranger's word on these things.
As far as I see it, you have two options:
1. Use a female condom. It's not the "real thing" but most men seem to find it to be the most "realistic" sensation.
2. Find a sugar baby. When dealing with people one on one, it may be easier to negotiate safety. But if she's even remotely safe, san and worth your time...you'll probably have to take her on a few platonic dates first, so she can vet you, and have sex a few times with protection to prove to her that you're not a scum bag (and you're not a scumbag, right?). Then, be a goddamn gentleman, pay for her birth control and give lots (and I do mean LOTS) of money and gifts.
Good luck to you
What's the difference? A Civvie Girl has former Boyfriends. A Provider has her Clients. So tell me is one of these Safer than the other? My guess would be neither. Both have about the same Risk.
Dude really? Google the word "monogamous."
Sorry, but I just don't see your line of logic here.
Yes, I know that everything is on a case by case basis. You may, for instance, have a provider that provides BBFS but to only one or two gents that she doesn't see very often, and then you may have a civvie woman who is a serial monogamist who goes from relationship to relationship in a very short amount of time and throws the condoms out the window by date 3. In that case, yes the former option may be the safer of the two.
But let's get real here. That is not the case with most providers and civvie women. In most cases when straight monogamous couples decide to ditch the condoms, it's when a level of both physical and emotional trust is established AND another form of birth control is implemented. Most straight couples I know will not go condom free until they go get tested together and know for damn sure that another form of birth control is being used correctly. And so if that relationship ends, chances are that, when said woman does enjoy single life and participates in one stands or what have you, she will use protection. And when she's ready to enter into another monogamous relationship, the cycle will repeat.
Now of course, people cheat (and sometimes without using protection). And people lie about birth control. So it's not like I'm arguing that monogamy will protect everyone from an unexpected pregnancy or STD. But that's not the failure of monogamy; that's the failure of one (or both) of the people in that particular relationship to adhere to a monogamous and/or honest life .
But it is true that STDs do not just manifest on their own; you cannot make a negative person positive without exposing them to someone who is positive. And the more partners you have, the more at risk you are. That's just a fact. And the only way to reduce those risks immensely if you do have more than one partner is to...you guessed it....wear a condom.
First off. I do not practice in BBFS with providers. I think its risky. There is no way for me to know enough about you, your sexual practices, nor do I know you enough to feel comfortable to show you my hand before the river card is even dealt.
But he seems like he knows the risks. We all should be practicing being safe and be responsible enough not to engage with others whether we are STD free or not. When I saw Tyler Perry's Temptation, the movie freaked me out that there may be people out there spreading their disease to others. I think he is asking if there is a provider that may be willing to take the plunge with him and go beyond the extra mile. Personally I do not know of these Providers, but I can see how it may happen under the right circumstances. You may have to get to know your Provider "protected" first. Get to know each other really well intimately and personally. Have some type of involvement in each other's life outside the hobby because lets face it once she is pregnant or you share an STD then it would suck if ya only had the guy's email address. Hopefully you both are responsible and take some precautions together. Then you may get your provider to give you some BBFS.
But I agree with some of the other posts that you may find that you can get all this outside the hobby from a real girlfriend. Basically once you invest all this time and effort, that's what you can call yourselves anyway.
It's definitely not for me but good luck.
Thanks!
I'll bet some of you would go for it. If I got to know the Girl for a while, I would. At least I'm Honest enough to Admit it.
BBFS is widespread in the P4P world in all kinds of variations. Many perform the camel slide...and many indeed go full out BBFS.
Even some of the gals that posted to this thread are known to BBFS.
The irony of the male members is simply idiotic as they will publicly condemn BBFS...yet many of them are not averse to receiving it with gals here.
I don't have a real interest in BBFS with the women that provide...but there is a strong correlation between price and scores.
To the OP....check out the Top gals as many will provide what you seek.
To those that have written here condemning BBFS...give it a rest. I know quite a few of you and know damn well you do.
You just accused a majority of a very small sample size of providers in this thread of doing something they deny. By rights they need to know exactly who you are, and not your alias. That kind of direct accusation always demands total accountability.
Check your facts, bro. I am NOT about to tolerate some alias suggesting slanderous nonsense about my health and safety. If you wanna start rumors, at least have the balls to do it under your real handle.
Mocha, side*eye dis mothafucka.
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You Fool!!!!
You're. Just fanning the flame.
Lose the alias for all of us to see you, then we know who to avoid in the future.
As BCG said....a fifth grader is smarter than you.
Plus the anger really began with the ASSHAT who accused the few ladies responding of engaging in BBFS.
I hope the next time this request comes up we hear crickets.
OK. BBFS is a Special Request that may be offered by a Provider. If a Hobbyist asks for BBFS and the Provider grants his Request, what's the Problem? Seems like every time this Topic is Discussed, Providers and Hobbyists have Strong Condemnation about it. If two Consenting Adults in this Business do BBFS, then why should everyone else get upset? BBFS does feel a lot better than using a Cover. Have I had BBFS? Yes I have. But with only a few select Ladies that I've known for a while. I'd rather be Honest than getting Mad at someone about BBFS.
Because it potentially would pollute the water that we all have to swim in. It's like he is taking a risk, but it takes a risk for all of us. The majority of us feel that a choice is potentially being made for us even though he and his Provider are enjoying the spoils. It would be different if he said he was looking for a Provider who he would eventually like to Marry and be with only her and she be with only him. And if that us what he's lookin for, then there are dating websites out there for that.
If you really are not intelligent enough to understand the risks that it puts you at and you put others at by not practicing safe sex. There are professionals who just may be able to talk some logic into you.
Ask your own Doctor he would even be surprised by your ignorance on this subject.
You would be wise to have your self tested if you value your health and well being by your own Doctor or a local STD clinic. Have you not ever heard the term knowledge is power it is never to late to learn all you can about this subject then you just may change your tune and open your eyes to what people are trying to tell you.
you born stupid or have you devoted your life's work to getting this way?
Well that went about how I would have expected. This isn't the type of environment where anyone can admit to taboo activities without the fear of loosing business. Years ago anal was as suspect as BBFS is now even now BBBJ is not offered by all and is occasionally hotly debated. I am sure the original poster will find what he seeks and I am sure he will have gotten at least a couple of tentative PMs.
I just wish people were as vocal about drunk driving which is probably as dangerous as BBFS with a provider
Suited with a sugar baby.
My .02
XXX-Giselle Parker
Thanks!
If you go through recent Chicago reviews, you will come across at least one provider with generally good reviews who recently got one bad one by a guy who was freaked out because she slid him into her without a condom and he didn't want it, etc. Reading between the lines on a couple of her other reviews, the positive descriptions from some other guys do not include any description of putting on a cover, I have not seen this provider myself, so can't really tell you whether that is accurate or not. In the very few instances where I got BBFS from a provider, it was several decades ago, and only after I had seen the same woman repeatedly. In both instances, they made a strong point of saying not to mention that in reviews and that they did not do that with everyone.
They can be quite pleasurable for both partners,offer your boy freedom and safety at the same time. 
Just my 2 cents.Good luck,sorry to hear about your break up. xo
I was fool enough to troll for this, just because I wanted to try it. If you search hard enough, you will find it, I did, along with a case of chlymadia. Thats right, 10 years hobbying with no STDs, and just 2 bare encounters and im in the doctors office with burning pee. I was lucky on several counts though. This was not an antibiotic resistant strain, and one gram of zithromax did the trick. There ARE strains of chlymadia and gono out there that have so much resistance they are getting almost impossible to cure. Health professionals fear a untreatable gono strain because it would be a public health nightmare because of how virulent gono is. And I was lucky to stay HIV negative. Well, no more stupid bbfs for me.