After many years of hearing about human trafficking and it's relationship to some industries, I've ended up being more concerned with ads from agencies and of ads of independent women who are obviously of foreign decent.  In real-life scenarios I find these same women to be especially alluring, so it's not just a preference.  It has also occurred to me that independents could also be in bad situations, but I figure if someone finds that they can make money off of one person, I'd think it hard for them not to do it on a larger scale.

I'm asking here because I'd like to know others thoughts on this.  If I've read one too many crime stories or if I'm stuck with fantasy logic, I'd appreciate the public opinion.  If you've had similar concerns, I'd welcome mention of that too.

If while reading this you find yourself feeling offended, please know it was not my intention in writing the question.

you have reason for your concerns and ChiAndrea's advice is dead on.  

If you're not talking with the provider directly, it's impossible to make a judgment call. The only things you can do are rely on the agency's reputation and hope for the best or avoid the provider completely. Personally, I'd avoid her without any other information to go on. The thought of seeing a trafficked provider disgusts me.

If you have direct access to her, communicate enough to convince yourself she's doing this of her own free will. This can be a difficult assessment to make but do your best before agreeing to see her. If she doesn't want to communicate, take that as a bad sign and steer clear.

As Andrea mentioned, it's not just foreigners who are trafficked. There have been a few incidents of trafficking by Americans of Americans. Check out the agency thoroughly by asking others who have used that agency. Speak with the agency owner and look for signs of an unwillingness to communicate.

If you find yourself wondering about the legitimacy of a provider, move on and don't look back.

Thank you for the responses.

My hobbyist experience is limited to a couple of providers, both of whom had very long histories and were older (than me).  Maybe it's that lack of experience, but it didn't occur to me that I would necessarily be able to tell before meeting them. My research has normally been limited to listed ads, thier websites and reviews on here.  Once I was in an appointment i'd hope that I'd be able to read the woman for signs of distress, but by that time I've already contributed to the machine.

Any particular traits that are bad signs?

I just feel bad for the young underage girls who are runaways looking for and believing anything...

God, I sound like a Lifetime show, but, seriously this happens

XXX-Giselle

If she's reviewed here, chances are she's legit. Look for multiple reviews and reviews by hobbyists who have been around a while. Do the research before you make the appointment and don't go if you're not completely comfortable with the provider or agency.

I think it's a big mistake to assume you'll be able to read any signs once you're there. And think about the situation you'll be in if you decide to end the appointment because you're suspicious. Do you really want to risk putting yourself and the provider in danger because you changed your mind?

There's really no way to be 100% sure. If I ever found out someone I was seeing was a victim of trafficking and was anything other than a 100% consenting participant, I would quit the hobby. Here's what I look out for and avoid:

- All Asian massage parlors. I'm sure you've seen the ads here and there... they all use the same generic photos. Maybe I'm wrong, but something about most of these make me very uneasy.
- Photos of girls who look too young. There's a reason they look too young. Avoid at all costs.
- Photos of girls where the girl looks way too thin/sickly, too rough like a drug addict, or appears to have odd scratches/bruises (look at the photos and sometimes you'll see them!), or is clearly unhappy and not smiling or trying at all to make the photo look sexy. This screams "unwilling" to me.

I find the ones my age or older to be the most sane/normal/happy providers. Maybe you will too.

Just my 2 cents.

About six months ago I saw someone that may have been trafficked.  It is someone reviewed in TER. I however did not review her.  She is foreign born and has very poor english.  You call the number and an accented man answers and he sets it up.

Her english is poor and I don't speak the language she spoke.  I was getting a bad feeling during the session.  Afterwards she asked me if I was married and I told her I'm divorced.   She said a few times "you are a nice man". "I like you."   I asked her if she is forced to do this, she answered 'yes' but I don't think she understood me.  

I don't know what to do.  

Early in my mongering activities I've gone to AMPs.. many of the people there are trafficked.  It is a real underside of the commercial sex industry.

Its easy for this to get very fuzzy very quickly.  How much different is it to see a girl who gives most of her money to a pimp?  I think we would all be shocked if we really knew how many guys are really lurking behind the scene with girls we believe are independents.  Even if a girl is truly an independent Im guessing that a huge amount of the money we spend goes to illegal or or abused prescription drugs.

but I've never seen anyone with an illegal drug addiction. However, we've seen a few druggies pass through this board and most of us immediately knew to steer clear of them. Providers who use prescription pain killers may need them for physical ailments or of course, may be abusing them. Hard to know one way or another.

Pimps are a gray area. In my early days I saw a few girls who were giving their money to guys they claimed were their boyfriends but were probably pimps or boyfriends pimping them out. Pimp, boyfriend, whatever, as long as the girl is not being threatened and/or forced to work against her will, it's hard to say you've crossed the line. She's being taken advantage of but that's not the same as being trafficked.

Also realize that asking a girl who doesn't speak English well if she's being forced to do this will not get the information you really want. "Forced" can mean anything from being trafficked and threatened to having no choice but to do this to feed her family. Better questions to ask would be if she's doing this against her will or if she's being threatened by someone. Don't expect an honest answer, if she's being trafficked she's probably too afraid to ask for help. She doesn't know you, how could she trust you to help her? I'm sticking with my original answer, don't go to the appointment in the first place unless you're comfortable with the situation and that means doing your homework BEFORE making the appointment.

Drugs, alcohol,  pimps, dead beat dads and boyfriends- the list goes on. I really believe a girl shouldn't be a provider before 21 (too young to toss one back too young to lay back) but I know I'm in the minority in that opinion.

The problem is many girls haven't gotten sexually mature enough at 18/19 (I'm not say GOOD at it) I mean mature enough to handle their decision, and the responsiblities and consequences that go along with it.

There are girls out there that have been doing this for ten plus years w/o a thing to show for it- no home, car or savings let alone an education to use when it's time to move on. I have found the younger a girl starts this, the tougher life seems to be for her.

Just my .02 on a few years if experience in multiple levels of this world.

Xoxo
VC