A. "Text me a pic. Your face is blurred out."  

1. There are picture collectors out there.  
2. I have a life outside of this where discretion is no less important than it is for you.  
3. Umm, I don't want to get arrested.  

B. "Do you do half hours?"

1. DO YOU SEE ME POSTING ON BACKPAGE?!?
2. If I don't list it, it means you're illiterate.  
3. Hello? Were you not planning on showering or washing your hands? How disgusting.  

C. "How is business?" or "You must have a lot of calls." or "Been keeping busy?"

1. None of your damn business! You don't see me posting my quarterly financials.  
2. Why does it matter? Right now it's all about you.  
3. Do you want me to talk about how I saw you, when I saw you, and all your business to everyone?

D. "Are you available right right now? No, 30 minutes from now is too late."

1. Who the hell are you seeing?
2. Would you be able to see your doctor 30 minutes from now?
3. Did you not know that you are legally entitled to a lunch break and that it might happen around noon?

Wow.  Angry?  Stupid dudes are stupids dudes...but stupid chicks are the same.  They're everywhere, not just Chicago.  Don't give an answer if you don't like the question

'be clean' and 'I hope you shower'

I'm going to continue canceling everyone for making that dumb and insulting request. I'm sorry!!! Nothing so easily upsets me, I'm pretty tolerant and I generally love people. One thing drives me nuts and this is it.  

happy hobbying

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Serena, I agree 100%. Those are by far the dumbest questions in the world. I had a guy who sent me a link to my ad in an email and asked what were my rates. Mind you, my rates were on the ad. How stupid can some guys be? Majority of the time it's the ones from Backpage and even though I've never advertised on there, I can tell it's no different from craigslist so I can imagine. But then again, you have some who refuse to read. They just look at pics and contact you. READ PLEASE!!!! Lol

These are the kinds of posts that force a provider to stay away for good. Some of the questions are legit too, such as the one on half-hours. To make the assumption that only Backpage girls offer them is ludicrous. To attack the very customers one wishes to attract shows a severe lack of professionalism and an overdose of arrogance. But she's a great girl, just ask her she'll tell ya.

Defense to the hobbyest.  

But I don't want this thread to go on for ever.  

Lets just say that THOSE ARE valid complaints and beautiful responses.  We (hobbyist) have our own hurdles, "the peek around the corner" (meaning is there a second door in the room or a pimp) situations as well as the "C'mon!! what the fuck?" times.  All these scenarios happen STILL with the high end girls.

Such as:
Bait and switch...
Your modeling pictures from 15 years ago...
Your modeling pictures from 15 years ago...  And your 30lbs heavier.
Your modeling pictures from 15 years ago...  And your face looks horrible because you've been smoking and drinking so long.
How about the booked appt. and you request the outfit they have on in the photo...  Their response... I don't own that. The photographer owns that outfit.  C'mon!! What the fuck???
How about "yes I have high heels and stockings" and you show up and they're wearing a teddy and flats.
How about you show up and they're drunk off their ass.
List can go on and I'm sure hobbyist can or might (PLEASE DO) add on.

So last I checked your rate is $250....  These are $500+ girls.  

Serena, please remember one thing...  You can vent about all those little idiosyncrasies..  But at the end of the day it's our money that goes into your pocket.  We ALL take chances on our actions but at the end of the day WE are your customer so to bitch about how bad "Chicago" guys are that might have been a wrong way to go into your marketing strategy (seeing that you charge $250 that might be a wrong move as well for the type of clientele your searching for and experiencing).

Bottom line is...  Don't bitch, we ALL have to do our screening wether you screening a client or a client is screening you.  This economy isn't the best right now so when I go into a situation that I have saved up for (a little FYI Serena) the last thing I want to do is walk into a room, she's not that girl AND HAVE TO GIVE HER $100 cancellation fee or its the "you'r an ugly fee" (because your face is blurred).  Now you have my c-note for doing nothing and now I gotta grab another hondo or find a lower quality girl because you just lied..

Sorry kids I could go on forever.  Just tired of the bitching on the providers end.  Let me give you an eye opener...  You are the retailer... We are the customer.  I guarantee you.  You treat your customer right with his return, his complant or his concern...  That customer will come back and he will tell his friends all about you.  You bitch and moan about you customers then you just slit your own throat.

My point is, Serena...  Keep your opinion to yourself about the "Chicago Guys" or go to the provider board on it...

Classless.

That's my .02

SP

And I wanna say so much more...  But, I hate the whining.  Bottom line is this... Deal with it... Find cool people... Have fun and like you have expressed continue saying "NO" and stick to your values.  But don't bitch about us.  

I think sometimes WE ALL FORGET WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT...  You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig...  Bottom line is this.... You'r a hooker and we are the Johns.

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Some questions are frustrating when ten people call and ask the same thing. But I feel most of those questions are legit. That's just me. Hardly anyone will read your whole ad or website, and I can understand that. Guys are visual.  

,Anne you should make a really easy to read FAQs page and if a caller is asking questions that piss you off, suggest here ad that page and them call you back.

I try to be accommodating and if that means answering questions I have already answered on my site, so be it. If I didn't want to, I would get out of the biz or have some else answer my phone. Because if I turned down every man with a question I felt was dumb, I would be broke!

My .02$...

Dummies aren't limited to Chicago, and though your experience sucked, you gotta look at both sides. Some of these guys ask these questions because either  
A. They've been burned by trash providers.
B. They cant make the connection of higher quality=higher rates and want to play lets make a deal.
C. Their so scared of LE, that even despite having reviews, some can still be extremely cautious and over do it with the questions and requests.
D. They're idiot jerks with no etiquette, class, respect or ability to read.  
List goes on and on....

I put some of the weight on the providers who make it more difficult for us. They might actually be the ones providing the ridiculous requests and dropping rates, making this kind of behavior acceptable. The ones who lie like there's no tomorrow, bait and switch, upsell etc. They assist in fueling the dummy fire.

I dislike the same things you do and most of my pet peeves are the questions after the appointment. What's your real name? You got a boyfriend? What school do you go to? Geez! But its all apart of the biz. I've had a lot of great times and if the cost for these great times are dealing with dumb asses every so often then so be it (^_^)

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Serena should  realize  that's  she has to accept the good with the bad aspects of the Hobby  OR
relocate to " better area  " ...lol

You won't have to answer anymore stupid questions from us Chicago guys now, because your phone will stop ringing.

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I'll never understand the the rude, broad accusations posted towards clients.  
Bad business at the very least.

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There could be numerous reasons guys ask stupid questions or say seemingly rude things at times (aside from those that are just plain idiots).

Sometimes we're just crunched on time and/or feeding the need = only interested in 30 mins or last minute scheduling

We get nervous = ask about things clearly shown on website or ask rude/stupid questions (either on phone or in person)

Must be very discreet about our phone call = we checked out a handful of different ladies earlier in the day and now have some privacy to call.  With all the varying info we gathered earlier we just want to be clear on your rates.

Serena, bottom line is, if you really want to be successful in this business you need to understand things from the hobbyists point of view sometimes and try to be as accommodating as possible.


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I completely agree!... Im a little offended being a native Chicagoan... Im sure these questions come from all over, not just Chicago men.

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Seriously though, stupid is as stupid does and you just have to act like a duck sometimes; let it roll off your back. I have pre-typed (polite) responses to all those questions and just copy and paste them as needed.

We all have bad days, blonde moments etc and today's dumb question can be tomorrow's great regular if handled correctly.

Enjoy the day, go to the beach, decompress for a day and I'm sure you'll feel better tomorrow.

Xoxo
VC

Is someone being demeaning or rude with the intention of making me feel low.  

Someone who is asking the SAME question many, many time to try to pressure me into something that I don't do or advertise. Example BBFS if that is what you are LOOKING for then I am not even gonna answer your call next time or ever again.

Other than that I try to look at it from both sides. We are all human and deserve respect.  

I haven't always had this job, I was a waitress once and BELIEVE ME I will take all this BS instead of that BS ALL DAY LONG!!

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......point D isn't special to Chicago (my experience anyways) ....overall I had an awesome time and have been dying to get back just can't find the right time.

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Who are you to be critical of anyone?

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Keep up the great posts Jamie, you're growing on me. Love the waitress comment having been a lowly busboy in my HS and college days. Now there's a job that sucked, especially knowing that being a waiter would have been a move up the food chain, LOL.

From my side of the fence, provider BS beats the hell out of SO BS any day

Hey, it's definitely concise and I like the font. Why would I need to ask any dumb questions?

Thanks ! Yes serving did suck... I attempted to go back to serving after I broke up with Lyric ( my ex who I did duos with) and let me tell you it did NOT last long before I was back!