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I wrote a review for a someone, told the 100% truth. She then denied having seen me. They took it down right away. The great thing is the next 5 or 6 reviews were right in line with mine.  My review was not even that bad. It just was not in the 9 and 10 range that this girl had before.


So why did the admin take my review down but wont take yours down.

I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

Giselle - you've been here long enough to know that only admin has the power to remove reviews.  Now, if you used the Contact Us tab and admin has not responded at all, well that is not cool on their part.  They need to get on the ball and investigate the issue.  Keep pestering them until you get a response.

The person in question is well known on the NBL and is a plague in the community.  Why TER has not banned this person is beyond me.  Guys should not believe any of the reviews this person has written.

Hi Giselle,

... from legit reviewers & consider the source of the non- legit review!!  You have a solid rep & I don't think that one review will affect your business!!

CF2

Posted By: giselle69
I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

reviews affect a girls business tremendously!  I had the same thing happen with a new girl who is now independent.  This guy had reviewed many of our girls and has done so since.  The problem and the reason I caught it was, that he reviewed her before she had done her first call....HELLO...... and he checked off and described in the review, a service she absolutely does not provide!

I just checked and although that service has been changed in her profile, the original review is still to this day up there and the un-offered service is described as taking place still and was not edited out!

This is what Gisselle is talking about.  This guy apparently reviewed her as offering a service she does not offer.  So now, Joe Blow comes along, reads this review and that is the main reason he books with her only to find out after he travels to see her and she travels to and sets up an in call and pays for it and now he finds out that this is not offered.  Can you say "AWKWARD"!?

Follow CTP's advice Gisselle and good luck!  They have had a changing of the guards over at admin in the last few years so maybe you will have better luck.  They recently were able to help with a problem we had.  In the meantime and only after you have completed your sceening, I would let any new customers know the deal.  Not an ideal position to be in but what else can you do to avoid that awkward moment!

looklum532 reads

same happen to my friend she was not even in the country yet there are already
reviews because they saw her name at the website,some girls don't do the type
of service the reviewer said she does,he didn't realize that because he never saw
her, the reviews are still on her record,she summit all these evidence to TER
what happen O,there answer was we have to respect our reviewers

Hi,

a less than stellar reputation on these boards!! I would weed out his review & other questionable reviews!!  She has pages of reviews & I assume more than a few are from well established reviewers !!  If those reviews don't mention an act she does not perform, again, I will then discount the "bad" review!

Posted By: SimplyGFE01
reviews affect a girls business tremendously!  I had the same thing happen with a new girl who is now independent.  This guy had reviewed many of our girls and has done so since.  The problem and the reason I caught it was, that he reviewed her before she had done her first call....HELLO...... and he checked off and described in the review, a service she absolutely does not provide!

I just checked and although that service has been changed in her profile, the original review is still to this day up there and the un-offered service is described as taking place still and was not edited out!

This is what Gisselle is talking about.  This guy apparently reviewed her as offering a service she does not offer.  So now, Joe Blow comes along, reads this review and that is the main reason he books with her only to find out after he travels to see her and she travels to and sets up an in call and pays for it and now he finds out that this is not offered.  Can you say "AWKWARD"!?

Follow CTP's advice Gisselle and good luck!  They have had a changing of the guards over at admin in the last few years so maybe you will have better luck.  They recently were able to help with a problem we had.  In the meantime and only after you have completed your sceening, I would let any new customers know the deal.  Not an ideal position to be in but what else can you do to avoid that awkward moment!

apparently the guy indicated in his review that he received a service from her that she did not perform.  It was not a bad review in the sense of scores.

Same thing happened with the girl that worked with me.  The guy scored her 9 and 9 for scores but claimed he got a service that she does not perform.



Same thing happened with the girl that worked with me.  The guy scored her 9 and 9 for scores but claimed he got a service that she does not perform.

-- Modified on 8/16/2012 6:11:12 AM

and now that this has been established to you and me, how do we let everyone else know?

I suppose that since someone can get 3 months free for 3 posts that many fake post go up just to get the free time. Since this is all suppose to be fiction anyhow, why are we still discussing it.

looklum687 reads

this is nothing new it happens all the time not just with this hobbyist,they use this as a way to
threaten providers for extra service free VIP or retaliate if they get blacklist etc,and it makes the
true hobbyist who is writing a legit review looks bad,TER will not do anything even you provide
them with evidence to prove it's a false review,they need reviews for there members to read just
get use to it GISELLE

Posted By: giselle69
I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

-- Modified on 8/16/2012 3:18:27 AM

There are legal ramifications involved here as usual.  Many of the old timers here might remember this and I am not by any means a lawyer but here is the jist of it.....

There is another board in existence that is similar to TER and is national and I actually think international as well.  Well, years ago they found them selves in a court in Florida and either the State or Federal government was trying to shut them down and the board won in court and is still up and running today.  Many of the people on here are originally from that board and probably remember what I am talking about.

Here is it all in a nutshell..... TER provides a forum for us to exercise our freedom of speech.  In providing this forum, they are permitted to put some governing rules in place.  There is a very, very thin line for them to avoid crossing when it comes to controlling our speech or the government can come in and try to shut them down.

There is not a shortage of reviews to be read by the members!

Also, everyone should remember that not everyone that reads this board is a veteran here.  I notice many times that new people on here are often shunned and yelled at for not knowing all the things we didnt know when we first got here.  

Finally, I hate to burst anybodies bubble here but there are far more people who are members of TER and never read the board than members that do.  I mean, do you really think TER makes millions off the 30-40-50 or even 100 members who post on the boards in Chicago, New York, LA, Dallas etc and pay 250 a year for membership?  Think about it....how many regular posters are there in Chicago?  Do the math.  If you combined all the regular posters in all the cities in the United States and came up with a thousand (good luck) that is 250,000 dollars a year and how many get free memberships?  HELLO

Most of the people that have memberships use TER to simply search reviews....period!  They give a rats ass about what we are talking about....LOL!  :-o)

concur.

I just wrote a review about a provider I saw who advertises three different rate packages but the advertisement doesn't describe what the difference is. I discovered the difference during the session, was a little let down I was disovering it at the time. I included that in the review so others would know. the provider told TER I included "personal" information in the review that I had to edit.

I followed the rules in the review about the numbers, I guess that is how some are propped up with high numbers.

Any giselle you're awesome and gorgeous, have a great rep here and i'd love to book with you sometime.


I wrote a review for a someone, told the 100% truth. She then denied having seen me. They took it down right away. The great thing is the next 5 or 6 reviews were right in line with mine.  My review was not even that bad. It just was not in the 9 and 10 range that this girl had before.


So why did the admin take my review down but wont take yours down.

What I find to be funny is point fifteen of the guide line to posting a review: "We consider all reviews to be fictional stories that are posted by TER solely for entertainment purposes." I realize the reasoning behind it, but it seems to encourage reviews to post untruthful reviews.

I find that hard to believe that any reviewer would lie about having 3-5 orgasms in an hour.

And even more incredulous that any gal isn't having at least 5-7 Big O's

And my favorite...her pics don't do her justice.

Screw the rhetoric on a review.  All I give a shit is she on time, clean and somewhat (hopefully not too embellished) close to the pics.

The rest is, in most cases, a guys mind on pheromones still.

The best method is still to back channel.  Most fellas will belly up and tell the truth that they didn't write in a review.  Or ratify that the crap that they wrote is in fact...true.  Just do your homework, cross reference with the reviewers, and see how it all plays out.

And FWIW many gals do "stuff" that never...ever shows up in a review.  That's why reviews should be limited to timeliness, cleanliness and a close approximation of her looks.  The rest...you need to ask guys off line.

I really appreciate all the support.  I was a little hesitant to call this guy out but it needed to be done.  I will continue to bug the shit out of admin and that's the best I can do suppose.

Thanks again!

XXX-Giselle

Posted By: giselle69
I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

It claims a service Giselle does not provide It is not someting I have interest in but many guys obviously do and seek out ladies that will accomodate this act.
These dudes are going to read the false review get excited and book with Giselle with great anticipation and expectation. When the service is not provided some will be pissed....not at the idiot reviewer but at Giselle. They might even interprut her refusal to comly as a personal rejection.  Just one more lady rejecting them! And you never know how they might react.

Simply put...the lady claims the review to be bogus and the contents of that review might actually place her in danger. Admin should pull it immediately.

Posted By: giselle69
I really appreciate all the support.  I was a little hesitant to call this guy out but it needed to be done.  I will continue to bug the shit out of admin and that's the best I can do suppose.

Thanks again!

XXX-Giselle
Posted By: giselle69
I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

-- Modified on 8/16/2012 4:02:05 PM

The reviews were 7's which are not too bad.  Sometimes theeroticreview sets 7s as a max.  I wanted to rate someone higher in the past and TER told me that they would not let me rate above 7 unless certain things were done in the session.

Very true! I am a massage provider while I do offer GFE to my regulars... I had a guy pay for only a basic full body massage and got angry that I would not kiss would not do a GFE session. I did not have a review saying that I offer GFE, yet he expected it. I am pretty sure he mixed me up with another Hayley, but it was kind of scary! I am not against GFE, but I am not willing to offer GFE when someone has only gotten a full body massage! It takes all kinds and some guys do not read our sites or more than the most recent review. Yes, the smart guys do their homework, but not everyone is smart and not everyone does their homework! Gotta love the smart guys!!! :)
I do hope that TER realizes this guy is scamming them to get free access and hurting Giselle at the same time and promptly takes it down!
I do wish you much luck Giselle!

Posted By: STPhomer
It claims a service Giselle does not provide It is not someting I have interest in but many guys obviously do and seek out ladies that will accomodate this act.
These dudes are going to read the false review get excited and book with Giselle with great anticipation and expectation. When the service is not provided some will be pissed....not at the idiot reviewer but at Giselle. They might even interprut her refusal to comly as a personal rejection.  Just one more lady rejecting them! And you never know how they might react.

Simply put...the lady claims the review to be bogus and the contents of that review might actually place her in danger. Admin should pull it immediately.
Posted By: giselle69
I really appreciate all the support.  I was a little hesitant to call this guy out but it needed to be done.  I will continue to bug the shit out of admin and that's the best I can do suppose.

Thanks again!

XXX-Giselle
Posted By: giselle69
I had a review put up which is a complete falsehood.  I asked the hobbyist several times to remove his malicious statements as well as this false review.  I have never seen this hobbyist nor performed the acts stated on him ever.  This review is causing some dissapointment to potential clients and sometimes a complete loss of them.  I have asked for help from admin; but these requests have either fallen on deaf ears or they wish not to help.   I am at a loss on what I should or can do...I am looking for help to remove this antagonist from my life.  I know that there are other providers who are aware of this hobbyist as well.  He has many aliases but the one he used for me was MKEF69.  I would like any input you can share.  

I am totally not a whiner but this just isn't fair...

XXX-Giselle

-- Modified on 8/16/2012 4:02:05 PM

Most guys will read more than one review before scheduling to see someone they have not met before. That way you can weed out the fake reviewers who only want a free TER membership. Notice he only has two reviews which just so happens to be the minimum required to have free access to the members area.

A lot of guys will actually review the reviewer for creditability before taking the review into consideration. For instance checking the number of reviews written, how long he's been reviewing, looking to see if the performances stated are similar or consistent with other reviews already written. In other words members doing their homework as its been said here so many times before so as not have any unreal expectations based on fake or faulty reviews.

I can understand your concern Giselle but if a guy can't take the time to read a website and do a little research before scheduling then that's not your fault its his. I think you did the best thing that can be done by calling him out, next to admin pulling the review which should be done promptly if they cross reference your previous reviews and realize something's not quite consistent with this one.

TER demands that the provider negotiate with the reviewer and get him to cooperate. That's not happening with a fake review or a guy who claims extra services she doesn't offer. He put those extra services in to give her misery and misery it gives. This is happening a lot lately and TER is not being cooperative. This is no longer the TER of previous years, it's a faceless, nameless entity that exists in another country where they don't give a shit about anything but making money. More reviews get them more revenue so they're not interested in pulling reviews and they're making it very difficult to get offending reviews removed. All of you ladies suffering through this can blame TER for their policies.

And it is very true that potential clients will see a service offered in that single fake review and bug the shit out of the provider to get that service. She'll get a bunch of calls from guys wanting it or even worse, guys trying to slip it in during a session.

Guys wanting these extra services are looking for that one instance where it was reported that she did it and they're off and running. They don't care about the other 50 reviews that don't mention the service being provided, all they care about is she did it once so she'll do it again.

PP (don't PM me)

The review issue has been an ongoing debate for quite some time.  If indeed the current TER approvers and managers have changed up the way they are investigating a disputed review isn't really supported using your theory.  All you need do is look at the same types of complaints 5 years ago.

And on the other side of this debate is that gals commonly will provide differing levels of service to fellas.  Many won't write that in reviews as an accommodation to a gal, but this is not always the case.  And too often the gals provide some services for a score to be negotiated (gasp).

There are too many sides to these stories to know who is telling the "whole truth".  When I see an outlier I am much more interested in why that is there.  Many times it is a fake...but NOT all of the times.  And it's easy enough to PM or email the reviewer and get the specifics.  And in many cases I have seen total fake 10/10 reviews that were put up at a gals urging....simply to move UP the TER top listing (as if that means anything LOL).  Where are those gals "screaming" to take those fakes down?

So I can't agree with your analysis that guys don't look at the whole picture.  If you've been at this (and I know YOU have) more than a year....the way to determine a gal is to back channel via PM.  Frankly I just peruse reviews more than study.  And in particular looking for that outlier.

Back-channels work both ways. If a guy has it in for a provider, he'll claim she did it even in the back-channel discussions to make her life more miserable. I realize there's bullshit coming from both sides but everyone isn't lying all the time.

This fake reviewer is a trouble maker and he's on the NBL under at least two different aliases that I'm aware of. He's using multiple TER login accounts as well so trust CTP when he says that this reviewer is not to be believed.

(Don't PM me)

I have not (yet, hopefully) seen Giselle, and I understand her post.  Bullshit reviews hurt a provider's livelihood, and also mislead hobbyests.

But am I missing something?  It appears that the "service" that she does not provide, but what was "claimed" in the review, is Greek.  But her profile says "yes".    Have I missed some obvious point?

Crusher13480 reads

I agree, but I don't think it was just the Greek in the conventional way.

She's drawn more attention to some alleged 'handiwork' than this review ever would have gotten if she stuck to the proper channels to have it removed.

But. That doesn't surprise me with this one.

What is your last comment supposed to mean?  XXX-giselle

Posted By: Crusher13
I agree, but I don't think it was just the Greek in the conventional way.

She's drawn more attention to some alleged 'handiwork' than this review ever would have gotten if she stuck to the proper channels to have it removed.

But. That doesn't surprise me with this one.

Isn't that what the thread was about?

Im a pretty Pussycat not a dumb duck.

If you look at both the posts, they were written in January and I did, in fact, USED to provide Greek for an additional two hundred.  Due to the fact that I had actually been completely unable to accommodate bigger sizes on a few occasions, I decided to 86 that particular item on the men as it lets down my clientele that are booking for the sole purpose of gettng my pirate booty (aaarrrggghh matey haha!)   This, ladies and gentlemen is the reason I know the review is false because of the fact I quit offering Greek four months before this particular guy made up his story.  Plus, I know who he is and there is a reason that he is blacklisted in both Milwaukee and Chicago as he has a reputation for violence (although he wasn't violent with me but he did short change me the one and only time i saw him which was a couple of years ago).  He is angry with me because I refuse to see him and I suppose he just wants to piss  me off.   Well, kudos for him because it worked but I appreciate everyone's constructive criticism both positive and negative.


I hope I cleared up any confusion and if I offended anyone, well then good!  I am just kidding kiddos!

XXX-Giselle

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