To the women who work or tour in the NW Suburbs i.e. had a guy book an overnight with me, I screened him which was easy since he owns his own flooring company in Chicago. We had a great time last night and this morning I noticed he had not put the envelope on the counter with our agreed upon donation.  

After waking him up so he could leave I asked him about it and he said oh its in the car I will go get it and bring it back, RED FLAG! I told him I would go down with him which I did. This douche walked around the parking lot pretending like he didn't remember where he parked then he told me that he has no money and he got dropped off by a cab. After calling him a few choice words, he proceeded to walk away from me down the street.  

I stood outside and watched him because I knew he had not gotten dropped off by a cab last night I also texted him and told him I would be at his place of business to pick my money up in which he was shocked because he had no idea when I screened him that I found out  he owned a business and married. He text me right back and said I'm bringing you your money in 10 min.  He walked back down to the hotel as I was still standing out front watching him and he handed me my money. He then got in his car which was parked in the parking lot of the hotel and left. But before he took off he had the nerves to ask could he see me again SMH. I replied "lose my number prick"and walked in the hotel.

This idiot was a true piece of work and although I am the blame for not settling the business side of things last night I'm glad things worked out inspite of this douche trying to scam me. If I would not have followed him outside and told him I would pay a visit to his company( which I really had no intentions on) he would not have paid me.  

Pm me ladies for this stupid idiots inf

Sorry you went through that dear. We always make sure the donation is accounted for before beginning any appointment for this very reason. And usually when girls don't follow procedure these things do happen. Lucky it is not often. I remember one man ran out with the girls handbag containing her money and credit cards....these guys keep doing these things until someone stops them...you did a good job of that...hopefully he won't be playing games anymore. Girls that don't screen well would have had to eat the loss on this. It is important we know who we are doing business with..So everyone is safe.

Screen Screen Screen...and then screen again.....

You are so right and I'm the first to admit I broke protocol which is so unlike me, luckily I was able to rebound from my mistake. His info will be on every alert site, he's such a whack Job he will try again.  

It's like this in every industry. Always the rich people who don't want to pay their bills. When my sister was waitressing it was always the obviously rich people who left no tip or like 2 bucks. I wonder what he'd do if someone got him to install a floor and then tried to weasel out of paying??

are the ones who short - there are a lot of clients who have serious money and you would never guess. But they show it in their bookings lol!

When a guy starts blabbing about how much money they have constantly, even in regular dating, I'd watch them petty steal, even steal from me, terrible - terrible tippers. I seriously watched a self proclaimed wealthy "high society" man try to pick up the waitress as a sugar baby - WHEN I WAS PAYING FOR THE MEAL! HA HA HA.

(That was civvy dating - I'm so done with that shit lol.)

Oh my god, the stories I have lol!

Anyway...

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It's a business you're running and you were your own collection agency.

Good for you.

xoxo

C

I know you're not here to solicit advice. I'm just going to tell you a little piece of info I figured out, more for onlookers as opposed to you personally.

Think about it - What caused you to not count? You may think you were being lazy or thoughtless, but really think back on strategies he may have used to distract you, and/or to gain your trust. Because I'm sure something didn't smell right about the guy, and there was a reason you didn't count the envelope.

Thieves aren't stupid - they know exactly what they're doing, and have their strategies well thought out. Very subtle too - you won't catch it until later if you don't know what to look for. Don't think a man isn't walking in there with a plan, because he's dealing with a woman he doesn't know, and is about to sleep next to her. There's a whole manipulation tactic involved. Think on things that caused you to go "oh. he's alright" "Well I guess I don't have to count" etc etc

Reason I say this is, I've had a dude literally interview me before the date on the phone that I feel this is a real date and not business - that I really like him for him and not business... "Are you sure Courtney?" Nowadays I'd be like "No. I wouldn't be going on this date with you if you weren't paying me." LOL. I used to think that was wrong until I got shorted some serious change, then confronted as "all for the money." DUH I'm here for the money idiot - it's on my site. LOL

"If you want to be paid the agreed amount you're only in it for the money". As if people who do business can't be friends, too.

I have friends who pay me to do handyman stuff and whatnot. It would be like if they said "hey, come paint my garage and I'll give you such and such money", then afterwards they said "oh, so all you care about is money, huh?" That's a hell of a shitty guilt trip. Why does friendship imply you have to do shit for free? Friends can have sex with each other, they can do business together, they can do both, all they need to do is honor their agreements.

I totally agree with you

Lol I agree he came in with an agenda and almost got away with it and if I would have walked back in the hotel instead of watching him walk down the street he would have. Like I said this is unlike me to break protocol and I did, hey Im human. But I dann sure won't slip again. Very valuable lesson learned

He would sue them I'm quite sure

Lmao yes today I had to wear many different hats

Well, I'm glad you don't have to live with getting "fucked" both literally and metaphorically. It's a really shitty feeling.

I am surprised at how much humiliation people like that are willing to go through to save a buck or two. Sigh.

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With the painters, they can hate their job and be all about the money all they want - as long as they paint the garage and do it right. Nowadays, a GFE is usually supposed to establish a connection. Especially if they're using words like "lover" "I love what I do" "connection" "courtesan" etc.

Service and end result here is open ended. There's no driveway to spill the paint on, no solid lines to paint inside of, etc - it's two people being intimate. It's going to look different every time. And it's more personal.

That makes it easy for someone seeking out those small seeds of guilt or unsurety, drawing it out of the provider. He knows the lady's desire to make the fantasy as real as possible without bursting the guy's bubble that it's about money. He knows her desire for a reputation of making him "forget it was a service" level or higher.

All the while he distracts her from counting the money.

That's just one strategy. We haven't even started talking about turning the clock around at an outcall lol!

 
It's easier to fuck with someone's head here because it's personal and stigmatized. (AND the painters have the guy's credit card number or can ping his credit rating/send him to a collector, or sue lol.)

Until both sides grasp and admit what is shunned in society, yet still "stolen" in everyday relationships, they're going to feel short changed.

Provider: "I'm here for the money first and foremost"
Client: "I'm here for the sex/companionship first and foremost"

Going deeper
Client: "I'm here for this much time alone with you."
Provider: "I'm here for this much money for that much time."

As much as we don't want to admit it, all relationships personal and professional have business transactions, bartering, standards, give and take. What these guys are trying to do is create blurred lines in a place where the lines should be solid.

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These guys aren't rich or even close. They are low on self esteem ( this one in particular short in the cock department too) and need to inflate their egos by pretending to be someone they are not. When they realize that their personality didn't impress you enough for a discount, they try and skip out. The loser that gave me a shitty review tried this on me. I busted him, I got a bad review. He's a weakling and it's the only power he has.

We are not required to please you unless you pay the entire entry fee and play by the rules!! This is a HOBBY - NOT a right!

You never hear someone say "only in it for the money" when an NFL quarterback negotiates a new contract. He loves the game, he's GOOD at it. Pay it or he'll play with someone else.

I've had many times where afterwards I have left my place and forgot to even check for an envelope from regulars that I trust. But it seems lately I spend more time on the black list boards. It's sad...

Good for you for standing your ground. He wasn't expecting that!

R

I believe the intent is to have girls chase after his "money" with his dick in her mouth. lol!  

"Spread those legs, baby! Daddy just might reward you - but he's protective of his enormous sum of money so he can lavish it on the right, special girl. Are you special? Are you "the one" I will dump all my riches upon?"

This is a sub-thread within a thread - I'm not sure the OP encountered a guy like this - and her story was phenomenal. I am glad she didn't fall for that guy's schemes. I'm just having flash backs of my first encounters in P4P lol!

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What a dick.  I actually forgot my wallet with a provider one time and the donation wasn't even brought up til after we were finished.  I felt so bad.  I ended up leaving my watch as "collateral" and driving all the way home and back (about 3 hrs) to give her the donation.  She admitted she didn't think I was coming back and had already contacted someone to appraise my watch.