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Dont take this the wrong way... but...
fpaep80 8 Reviews 749 reads
posted
1 / 11

i have been calling the 2 numbers for her for days, and it goes to voicemail.  Can any one recommend a way of getting hold of them?  Thanks in advance.

asiantantric 163 Reviews 691 reads
posted
2 / 11

previous customers or guys recommended by current customers

fpaep80 8 Reviews 563 reads
posted
3 / 11

So am i really out of luck then?  Nothing to be done?

premiumsoup 37 Reviews 442 reads
posted
4 / 11

I've heard the name before. Does she run a lot of the eros asian listings? I've been trying a few numbers every so often for weeks with no reply.

Could any current customer help me out? I am rs2k verified and am about to start posting ter reviews for this past year. I've used a few other asian providers already. I'm not sure what I can offer in return, but any help would be appreciated if you can msg me. Thanks :)

Terrapin911 71 Reviews 614 reads
posted
5 / 11

Posted By: premiumsoup
I've heard the name before. Does she run a lot of the eros asian listings? I've been trying a few numbers every so often for weeks with no reply.  
   
 Could any current customer help me out? I am rs2k verified and am about to start posting ter reviews for this past year. I've used a few other asian providers already. I'm not sure what I can offer in return, but any help would be appreciated if you can msg me. Thanks :)
Posted By: fpaep80
So am i really out of luck then?  Nothing to be done?
I would hope that anyone here that sees Pam's girls would not provide references to people with such small numbers of reviews that they do not know. Trouble is nobody is going to believe you are legit until you have a verifiable history over time with reviews of ladies known to be legit. Use your RS2K or get RS2K and start seeing gals and start to build a rep for yourself. If Pam or anyone else for that matter decides later that they want to take in new clients the phone may get answered one day and if you have a verifiable rep someone may take a chance on you.  Essentially what you are doing now is like going up to a complete stranger and telling them "Hey lend me $1000 I'm good for it." Sometimes you need to prove you are "good for it" first.

T

fpaep80 8 Reviews 411 reads
posted
6 / 11

I kind of disagree with your analogy.  It's not like lending someone money at all.  The biggest concern that providers have is if you are LE.  But even if a current client refers someone, the provider will still do her due diligence and check the person out.

It's not like if you refer someone and this person turns out to be a weirdo, you loose your access to Pam's girls.  

But i do agree that with very few reviews on here and just referring a total stranger is not done.  I get it.

It is unfortunate though.  I have been all through this site, and it seems that Pam's agency is the way to go in Chi town.

Jack Bauer 378 Reviews 300 reads
posted
7 / 11
resource101 108 Reviews 382 reads
posted
8 / 11

TP, I don't agree with your hypothesis.  I have been hobbying for two years, have almost 50 reviews and have often been to two other reputable and reliable Asian agencies and yet when I occasionally try to reach Pam, no dice.  I would consider myself a reputable and legitimate hobbyest with a good history. I believe she (they) are not that sophisticated and don't bother checking TER reviews and phone numbers. It will only change when economics dictate it, ie when their client list falls off and they need new customers. Just my $.02.

premiumsoup 37 Reviews 299 reads
posted
9 / 11

OK, I'll agree that my specific request to be used as a reference was wrong (but debatable). But asking for pointers and hints about how it is best to contact them definitely wasn't wrong.

I guess the frustration is with the question of why are they running the ads if they are not planning to answer the phone or return any calls? If Best Buy kept running ads for a Big Friday Sale but then they never opened up their doors on a Friday, it would be understandable why customers would get frustrated, no? Why run the ad?

But I guess that is their prerogative......... or maybe I'm ALWAYS calling at the wrong time.

And it's not like we're trying to break into the CIA. We're just looking for some helpful hints (maybe a better phone number?) that can be used to get in contact with the agency. And then it's up to them to go through their usual acceptance process. What's funny is that I used to see a girl pretty regularly who is now with Pam's girls. She's gone forever now for me? :)

Also, in regards to not having reviews, everybody has their own reasons for not posting reviews, but that doesn't mean that they are not legit. I can provide multiple references right away if needed by the agency. For me, I'm just relatively new to the hobby and I wanted to accumulate enough experiences (10+) before posting reviews in order to be fair and not jump to conclusions based on a small sample size. How can I properly rate McDonald's if I've yet to visit Wendy's, Burger King, Culver's, etc, etc. Wait, I think I just compared providers to food.... scratch that, haha :)

Anyways, I'll keep trying. One of the girls in your reviews is actually one that I really want to see. I hope to get through at some point, but if not, there are plenty of other options and I understand that they can run their business however they want.

But if they are fully packed with clients, simple economics probably says that they should be raising prices. But shhhhhhhhhhhh, don't say that out loud.

resource101 108 Reviews 354 reads
posted
10 / 11

FYI, Pam's agency runs ads for her verified clients and not for us.  Just how it is.  Listen to the others and move on.  There are other fish in the sea.  Feel free to PM me for any information.

Terrapin911 71 Reviews 353 reads
posted
11 / 11

Posted By: fpaep80
I kind of disagree with your analogy.  It's not like lending someone money at all.  The biggest concern that providers have is if you are LE.  But even if a current client refers someone, the provider will still do her due diligence and check the person out.  
   
 It's not like if you refer someone and this person turns out to be a weirdo, you loose your access to Pam's girls.    
   
 But i do agree that with very few reviews on here and just referring a total stranger is not done.  I get it.  
   
 It is unfortunate though.  I have been all through this site, and it seems that Pam's agency is the way to go in Chi town.
 
 Not a perfect analogy I agree, but from the trust standpoint it is valid. Most dont stick their neck out when there is no trust built. I dont know this to be factual, but what if Pam's screening method for new clients is to only take on clients based on word of mouth of other trusted dlients? Also, I would imagine if someone gives a bogus reference and the referred person is LE then a world of shit could be opened up for a great many. Don't know if Pam would need to cut anyone off if she was out of business.
 
Posted By: joedavola
TP, I don't agree with your hypothesis.  I have been hobbying for two years, have almost 50 reviews and have often been to two other reputable and reliable Asian agencies and yet when I occasionally try to reach Pam, no dice.  I would consider myself a reputable and legitimate hobbyest with a good history. I believe she (they) are not that sophisticated and don't bother checking TER reviews and phone numbers. It will only change when economics dictate it, ie when their client list falls off and they need new customers. Just my $.02.
I agree with you completely. I am also guessing Pam keeps things on the simple side. You, as opposed to the OP and everyone with no reviews that brings up this subject every 3 weeks, have built yourself a rep. So you would be much more likely to have someone give you an in based on your rep. People can determine for themselves if you are legit so the risk of causing a shit storm would be reduced significantly for anyone vouching for you. This is why the best course of action for these new 0 review inquirers is to probably build themselves a rep, so if the door ever opens they are poised to be let in the door.  
 
Posted By: premiumsoup
OK, I'll agree that my specific request to be used as a reference was wrong (but debatable). But asking for pointers and hints about how it is best to contact them definitely wasn't wrong.  
   
 I guess the frustration is with the question of why are they running the ads if they are not planning to answer the phone or return any calls? If Best Buy kept running ads for a Big Friday Sale but then they never opened up their doors on a Friday, it would be understandable why customers would get frustrated, no? Why run the ad?  
   
 But I guess that is their prerogative......... or maybe I'm ALWAYS calling at the wrong time.  
   
 And it's not like we're trying to break into the CIA. We're just looking for some helpful hints (maybe a better phone number?) that can be used to get in contact with the agency. And then it's up to them to go through their usual acceptance process. What's funny is that I used to see a girl pretty regularly who is now with Pam's girls. She's gone forever now for me? :)  
   
 Also, in regards to not having reviews, everybody has their own reasons for not posting reviews, but that doesn't mean that they are not legit. I can provide multiple references right away if needed by the agency. For me, I'm just relatively new to the hobby and I wanted to accumulate enough experiences (10+) before posting reviews in order to be fair and not jump to conclusions based on a small sample size. How can I properly rate McDonald's if I've yet to visit Wendy's, Burger King, Culver's, etc, etc. Wait, I think I just compared providers to food.... scratch that, haha :)  
   
 Anyways, I'll keep trying. One of the girls in your reviews is actually one that I really want to see. I hope to get through at some point, but if not, there are plenty of other options and I understand that they can run their business however they want.  
   
 But if they are fully packed with clients, simple economics probably says that they should be raising prices. But shhhhhhhhhhhh, don't say that out loud.
 
 I too have deduced that the ad's are intended for her verified clients.
 I dont think it matters when or what phone number you call. I believe the problem is that the phone is not answered because the calling party is already not meeting Pam's "usual acceptance process". I agree not posting reviews does not mean you are not legit, just harder to prove you are, particularly on a forum when asking someone to vouch for you.
 
 TP

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