who are hobbyists, want to start drama with females who are friends?

Let me try to explain in short version.
2 girls become friends, one pulled the other in on a double with a long time friend she knew.
he liked it very much but then he started telling the girl lies about the other one, who he just met with once.
he started saying that the other female is calling and txting him all the time and it is not true, it is not in her mo,  I know this for sure because I know her for long time and know it isn't her way of doing things! Plus she would never treat a friend in that way!

why would a man lie like that? is it because he is jealous of thier friendship and wants to break them up or what?

I have heard of simliar stories any ladies have one like this? whre a guy starts drama with friends? did he succeed and ruin the friendship or did it get stronger?

It becomes a terrible situation when providers and hobbyists take the business relation outside of "I see you, I pay you for a service, and then I go home"!!!!!!!!!!!! Anytime the provider or the client stray from this relationship, it no longer becomes manageable. Now persoanlities come into play, jealousies, everything that goes along with a "normal" male female interaction is fair game. The drama begins and shit hits the fan. Everyone needs to have a dose of reality here. This board is for hobbyists and providers, you know the oldest profession (a prostitute and a john). This is the real world not another version of "Pretty Woman". The guys need to mind their own business and some of the providers need to take their problems to the PROVIDERS ONLY board.

if i ytook it to the providers board then I would not be able to get a man's point of view as I was asking!
You always have the  choice of not reding or responding.

your post, your post was just fine. I was referring to some providers who have taken to this board to post senseless items that should be between providers. Your post was what this board is meant for..

I think it's not just a mars vs venus thing. There's not enough info about the individuals here, but it sounds like this guy is a) spoiled by having a relationship with someone who is so open, sexually, and b) not mature enough to engage in a threesome without screwing it up.  Because it sounds like the reason he wanted to "ruin the friendship" is because he doesn't understand it.  

Maybe he feels threatened by a woman who can have sex with a bf and a gf and leave all the emotional involvement at the door.  A threesome is a big deal to a lot of guys mostly because a lot of guys don't mature as quickly as gals do.

oh ok, but still think that everyone should lighten up and understand that sometimes providers are stuck in a room by themselves, just waiting for the phone to ring and they get bored.
thats why I think some post these things cause they get a little lonely and this is a comfportable place for some of us to post our ideas and such. know what I mean?

I really have no explanation, as it makes absolutely no sense to me. Unfortunately, shit like this happens, and it isn't gender-specific. It happens with males, and it happens with females. It happens in real life, and sadly, it happens here, in a place where we're supposed to be able to come and get away from the everyday bullshit.

Frankly, there is the provider board, the humor board, the P&R board for a lot of the non-hobby related this or that. It gets to point where people stop laughing with you and start laughing at you. If a provider is lonely, then she should to do more to attract customers to her lair. If she is being managed, there is a thing called marketing. I think the mod is kind for not pushing some the content elsewhere. I've seen where providers get quite pissed when their true ads get further down the page because of non-hobby related posts and other drama. The longer term providers know about this as I have heard them complain.

And here silly me, I thought this was a discussion board, not an advertisement site.  Yes it's for discussing the hobby, but doesn't have to be 100% dedicated to only hobby related discussions.  People really need to lighten up around here.  Why so fucking serious all the time.  Is it the economy?  Are we not getting laid enough?

Your post generalizes, in that it was inclusive of ALL hobbyists. I can tell you with certainty that not all hobbyists behave in such a way. I would bet that a significant majority do not.

Be careful how you choose your words, otherwise you might turn off potential clients. This isn't a men vs women community, we are all supposed to be pulling in the same direction.

This community has seen beaucoup drama from BOTH sexes, and you know that as well as anyone.

if you think that is what I am saying then think what you want, I was not.
All I did was ask why guys do that to providers and I've gotten some pretty honest answers. I did not say every guy I've met that is a hobbyist does this, so why twist it?

I could say from your post it sounds like I've turned you off as a potential client, if I wanted to turn shit around, but we both know the real story on that one.

So why are you so serious? I put my point of view out there to discuss. I no way implied that this was an ad only site. I used that as an example. If we all just put any items up on any topic with no relevance to why we come here, what's the point in that? Don't be so attack-minded that's my advice.

"I am curious why men who are hobbyists, want to start drama with females who are friends?"


Those are your words verbatim. Verbatim means "word for word". With that statement being true, I didn't twist words at all. You should have qualified your original question with the word "some", as in "...some men...". So whether you meant to include all hobbyists or not, you did so by bad written expression.

As far as your last statement to me, I have no idea what you're talking about. If I have something to say to you, I will say it here, or to your face. I won't use go-betweens or aliases. I was being constructive when I replied to your original post, as you rarely choose your words carefully. I expressed a valid point, whether you choose to believe it or not.

I have not used an agency up to this point in time. I came close once, but miscommunication between the 3 parties(agency owner, provider, client) turned me off.

you are right, she did not say "some men" and she also did not say "all" men.  So, you are the one who chose the interpretation of "all".

Also, I dont know if you are referring to "MTA" regarding your statement about being "turned off" but /I will say that you are entitled to voice any opinion you want on here as am I and Tracy and everyone else on here.  If you don't like our opinion, you  are entitled to voice your opinion about that as well.  

Having said that, let me voice this opinion.... If you were talking about MTA, let me say that I for one am not going to lose any sleep over the fact that you are not going to utilize MTA.  I would love to think that we could capture the business of every guy on here and never offend anyone.... but unfortunately, that is not possible.

Finally, let me say that I hope you have a very happy and prosperous new year and that you get laid more often!

Oh, btw, Geanna (pic below) is at MTA at the moment and although this is just my humble opinion and as biased as it may be, that is a real sad "loss" to you.  LOL!

maybe your communication skills were lacking and in reality were trying to get a lesser donation from the provider by going behind the agency owners back, though fronting as a friend of the person? Sorry that didn't work out for you but some people are true to thier word.

your right I did not say some men but I did n't say all men/hobbyists either, sometimes we read something and make into something its not and seems like you have a habit of doing that or making a mountain out of a molehill.

No Mike...I was not referring to MTA at all when I posted, and I have nothing against using agencies. I have seen indies pretty much since day one, that is just the way it worked out, as opposed to "by design".

Thanks for the well wishes and I hope the same good fortunes for you. I never tire of seeing pics of Geanna  

Been hittin' the sauce today, have ya? Not like you to jump to conclusions and respond with so much hostility. Just can't believe it!!

The 2nd part of your post validates my original criticism. As far as the 1st part of your post is concerned, it is slanderous.

You don't know the first thing about me and my character and you never will. You seem to have narcissism in your repetoire. Can you spot a single flaw in your own reflection on the water?

No...of course you can't.

Tracy asked a question and I don't see any generalization at all in her question. I took it at face value, why do "some" men start drama between ladies who are good friends? She was likely referring to one specific hobbyist since this doesn't sound like something that would happen very often.

I have no idea why any guy would do this, sounds like a good way to not see any ladies from Apropo in the future. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...

Thanks for the unsolicited advice PP.  lol

Next time try tutoring a newbie about how you see things. I'm pretty sure I know my way around the place. Thanks so much for caring!  


I have nothing else to say about the topic, and plan on being quiet at this point. Shhhh

Sorry Funtimes...this has been a clusterfuck

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i think men will be men and women women so lets all get naked and have fun cut all the drama peace and love forever yea????????