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RussianWithLove 1827 reads
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have contempt for those of us who participated.   Especially the younger ones.  I'm not looking to be apart of anybody's bad memories.  Is this irrational thinking?

random456 16 Reviews 1019 reads
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If you are using agencies with lots of young providers that don't have a good command of English, then you might be right. But, if you are meeting with independent providers who have been in the business for a while, I think that you are mostly wrong. In some cases, they may be doing this because they feel it is the least bad of their employment options. But, I think that many of the well-reviewed providers really enjoy what they do. They often have much higher than average sex drives, and they can enjoy enjoy their sessions even with unattractive strangers. Even if they aren't getting off themselves, their clients are obviously enjoying their sessions, and it can be quite satisfying providing a service that your customers really enjoy. And, of course, well-reviewed providers are usually making more money than they would in other jobs that they might have, so that's a positive, as well.

I can't help but think that your post reflects your own feelings of guilt instead of insight into the feelings of providers.

adrianamonet See my TER Reviews 1111 reads
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Your post is seriously patronizing and self-projecting -- for there are many women that have made a sound and conscious choice to do what we do. There is no need for a bleeding heart. Ultimately if you really think that, maybe you should think about what you are doing as a client to her that 'she' or the many you have seen will end up developing contempt.  

I'm usually all sugary goodness -- but kitty has claws ;-)

Adriana.


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Sage of Chicago See my TER Reviews 1026 reads
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When I was younger I got into this the way many of us do, wanting to spend more time with the kiddo's and still be able to pay all the bills and have a nice saving for retirement kids college and be able to see the world.  Life was grand.  I grew up and grew into the industry.  Keep in mind I went Indy at 25 so I had already had a good career I loved but just ended up not being the right place for me.  

NOW, I find this very empowering as a woman.  I am sought after by sexy and intelligent men for an erotic encounters and and to me that is very exciting even still and gives me a rush as well as being the ultimate lift in your day with most guests since they make you feel beautiful and appreciated.  Those things certainly get my motor boat revving.  

Shoot, I need to run.  I am about to have more fun times and am so excited.  Yum!  Licks, Sage

PS, I agree about younger imports maybe not really wanting to do this so you might not be thought of well after the fact at some of the Asian Apt's or other places where they might restrict the ladies and make them work to pay off whatever debt or what not.

adrianamonet See my TER Reviews 837 reads
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If we are talking women that barely speak English to the point you have to wonder how they even arrived here without a command of English, there may be more under the surface to worry about. But if we are talking independent companions, grown women answering to no one but themselves -- it's a different story. Sure there are train-wrecks abound, but it really does a disservice to those whom actually have a say in who they meet with, enjoy those they spend time with, and enjoy the fact they can get paid to do it. Of course it's not always rainbows and sunshine (what job truly in every aspect is that way ALL the time?), but if a gal keeps her health, sanity and safety first priority, knows what she wants and does not compromise on what she doesn't, the benefits by far outweigh the negatives.


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RussianWithLove 753 reads
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First off, I've re-read my post and see no instance of patronizing. I've never shown anything but respect and gratitude to any provider I've ever seen, though I haven't seen that many.  I realize that the audience of this post is generally going to be well established providers and seasoned hobbyists, but understand that you don't represent all of the women in the game.  You simply represent a percentage that are doing it in a controlled and calculated method to reduce risk.  You also represent those who have the ability to detach from it and live a life separate from it.  But there are many who can't.  There are girls who drink themselves to sleep every night and are taking anything they can get their hands on to escape.  One girl even told me that she is used up and loose and she is only 23.  And she meant it.   You wanna call me a bleeding heart?  I can accept that.   But there's no denying that the term provider is a catch all for girls of many diverse backgrounds and situations all here for different reasons.  Some are doing it right, a lot are in a bad place.

RussianWithLove 830 reads
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I agree that the more established providers are quite happy with their line of work.  There are those who have straight up told me that this what they were made to do.  That it gives them joy.  And who is anybody to argue with that?  I believe that this is why this whole thing should be legalized and regulated.   All I'm saying is that there are a lot who don't fall into that category.  And yeah it could be some of my own feelings mixed in.  I had an experience with a girl crying on me when we discussed it and well yeah here I am.

HangingwithBears 794 reads
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We all wonder how we're thought of by you ladies. Some of you like us, others hate us, and the rest are out-of-sight, out-of-mind. Most of you won't remember us when you're done and if we're lucky, won't think years later that we were the guys who took advantage of you. There are some of you who aren't in a situation where you're being forced to do this. By this, I mean much more than having a pimp, it can be a lazy-ass SO, it can be bills that no normal job could possibly pay, it can be kids you support as a single-parent. You know that many women get into this as a last resort and they hate the business and can't wait to get out of it.

We appreciate the few of you who do this because you like sex, like money, and see this as a match made...well, not in heaven, that's for damn sure, lol. I've met many providers over the years and my impression is that only a very few liked what they were doing and didn't hate their clients. You sound like one of these women and that's a good thing. I don't think Russian was being patronizing, he was simply thinking out loud what many of us think to ourselves when we look at what we're participating in and sometimes we don't like ourselves or what we've become. We're sex addicts and this is how we satisfy our urges.

RogueLuver 665 reads
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Kitty is fine just the way she is....claws are a perquisite to the passion that is earned. Protect, then cherish...........meow!

Posted By: adrianamonet
Your post is seriously patronizing and self-projecting -- for there are many women that have made a sound and conscious choice to do what we do. There is no need for a bleeding heart. Ultimately if you really think that, maybe you should think about what you are doing as a client to her that 'she' or the many you have seen will end up developing contempt.  
   
 I'm usually all sugary goodness -- but kitty has claws ;-)  
   
 Adriana.  
 

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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 782 reads
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She certainly doesn't care what you think about her - unless you're writing that review.

People are going to categorize us no matter what we do. Everyone wants to define others, find their reasons for doing what they do, and point fingers at others so hopefully no one will notice their own shortcomings.

When someone quits coffee or smoking, goes on a diet, starts becoming an athlete, or quits alcohol, they (not all) tend to try to push others to do the same - sometimes actually shunning the others for not changing.

People tend to like to hang out with others who have the same convictions, habits, and directions. Try being a non athlete and dating an athlete.  

Generally, in this case, if someone leaves the profession because it wasn't quite for them, eventually they're going to lose interest in people who take part in it, mostly because it reminds them of a part of their life that they'd rather leave behind.

I don't drink anymore, wasn't an alcoholic, but I don't enjoy watching others drink. It makes me want to puke.
My friend became a lesbian because she can't look at another dick as long as she lives.

I'm hoping karma doesn't follow me when I fall in love and he decides he wants prettier, better, etc. which is why I'm exercising, have lost 20 lbs, am growing my hair out, and doing whatever I can to be the hottest bitch I can be so he doesn't feel the need.

But a hobbyist likes different flavors in many cases.

Either way, if the gal is in this and doesn't want to be, she's going to look at you with disgust. Not only then, but now. It's just the way it is. The question is, if you suspect this, why are you putting your dick in her hole? If anything, you'll be the one who leaves the hobby behind, never looking back, in disgust because of your experience.

All that to say, everyone is different, and worrying about what you're worrying about either has a reason, or is pointless. There are pros and cons to everything. You have to find out if you can handle the consequences. What matters are the people who add to your life for no pay.

I've never once had a boss wonder what I think of them when I have moved on from a job. Because they were paying me to do the job I sought out. I've also never been forced into a job, even escorting. I also made the choice as to what kinds of men I wanted to see, and what kinds of ladies I have wanted to associate with - and most are of like mind, or the men were brainiacs, which is what I'm attracted to. So I have only one disappointment with this. It was missing out on true love. No hard feelings toward any man here. At all.

RussianWithLove 655 reads
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You've articulated it way better than I did.  Thanks for that.

adrianamonet See my TER Reviews 587 reads
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All I could possibly just say, is that if there is any concern whether or not you wonder if a girl will regret down the line -- be one of the reasons that she loves her job and the cause of her smile when she knows she is scheduled to see you again. It doesn't have to be all sappy and complicated. Just be a good client.

I won't speculate too much further, but perhaps that sort of guilt stems from the fact that one might be drawn to those who are young and perceived to be vulnerable.

RussianWithLove 741 reads
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That was a beautiful and insightful post.  Thanks.  I really like your style.

adrianamonet See my TER Reviews 720 reads
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Unfortunately for some, they are in a bad place and it is not my place to judge why that may be the case. However, when they turn to you, you are put into a precarious situation. If she isn't coerced in anyway by an outside force, there isn't much you should feel you should do -- outside of mentioning she might benefit by talking to a professional therapist.

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HangingwithBears 641 reads
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I've had a few of those too, the ones where a girl breaks down and cries over what she's become and has no way out. It's both depressing and enlightening and it sure makes you wonder if you're making her life better or worse. For those providers who say "of course you're helping her", you mean financially but we're certainly not helping what's really bothering her - the fact that she's had to resort to THIS to eat and live.

I know exactly what was bothering you Russian.

HangingwithBears 570 reads
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good for you :-) You have a positive outlook and see it for what it is - a means to an end. I know a girl who likes doing this and is faring quite well in getting to her end game goals. Every time I leave her, I actually feel good about myself because I contributed to her goals and we had some fun in the process. I like thinking of it as a FWB+D (FWB + donation). This is a rare scenario in my experience and I can empathize with Russian's experience.

I may be drawn to young women but I most definitely don't like vulnerable. I've talked a bit about my screening process and I try very hard to find women like you who don't hate themselves for being in this hobby. The last thing I want is to walk out from an appt feeling like I've taken advantage of a woman who has no other choice than to service me. That really sucks Adriana, it just sucks leaving a session feeling like that. I feel dirty. I hope that explains why Russian was thinking out loud and every one of us has been there at some point.

HangingwithBears 781 reads
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a girl crying on his shoulder. We don't go into appts thinking the girl hates us, we're hoping she likes us or at least can tolerate us. I've seen a few providers where it became evident they weren't too enamored with me so I stopped seeing them. I can't speak for the other mongers but if I suspect we're not clicking, I don't go back.

Russian got more than he paid for. I think your post is spot on though :-)

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RussianWithLove 672 reads
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I do care and that's part of the problem.  Because it also leads to dependency.  I did tell her to go see somebody though.

RussianWithLove 779 reads
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Thanks for understanding.  Appreciate it.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 734 reads
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If she feels she can cry on your shoulder, you are one of the ones she will think fondly of when she leaves. I had a client who had the bitter sweet privilege of having a lot of his women open up and say how they really feel about what they do for a living (or even as a side job). I, on the other hand, was ecstatic about my new found profession at the time - he just got the low down on all the other shit in my life lol.

 I say bitter sweet, because he didn't quite get to live the fantasy because he was a genuine, sweet, caring guy. He was the one that the ladies felt good being around.

He was also an awesome sugar daddy lol. (hehehehehehe)

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You're not shooting yourself in the foot Alyson. You nailed me in my heart though!  
What a thoughtful post. Thank you for sharing.

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Posted By: RussianWithLove
have contempt for those of us who participated.   Especially the younger ones.  I'm not looking to be apart of anybody's bad memories.  Is this irrational thinking?

Gemma Coreana See my TER Reviews 612 reads
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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 577 reads
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haha, TER picked it out. It was either this or Diamond_Vagina. I told them to choose, lol

muffyluver0 52 Reviews 546 reads
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Very thoughtful post, Alyson

Posted By: AlysonParker
Sometimes I think I'm shooting myself in the foot by being so honest on these boards, but if someone reads this and takes it to heart, I suppose it's worth it.  
   
 Once upon a time, I was one of the younger ones. I worked for an agency when I was 18 and had no idea about anything other than that I needed to pay my bills because I was on my own. I didn't know my body, what I liked, how to say no to things I didn't like and I sure as hell didn't know how to connect with or please a man three times my age!  
   
 The ones I ended up resenting were the ones who took advantage of my time and my naivete or whose expectations were unrealistic. The "tell me your real name, give me your phone number, I'll tip you extra if you just let me do greek for a minute (and of course there was no tip) etc etc" fellas. I also ended up resenting the ones who expected an 18 year old to know anything about creating intimacy, being well dressed or taking the lead. Not to say women that age can't do all of that, but it's not likely.  
   
 The men I think fondly of are the ones who saw the situation clearly and handled it as such. The men who knew that at 45 they had quite a bit of years on my 18 or 19, and guided me through the things they liked without pushing or taking advantage and who didn't expect me to necessarily be GFE in an intellectual sense. They had no illusions that I was doing it for anything but financial reasons, so they gave me hassle free dates that sated both of our needs. Everyone won, and I learned so much from them. There are two in particular who, even 14 years later, I smile about every time I think of them.  
   
 The 55 year old guy who complained and made my agency give him a free second date with me because, at 18,  I didn't know how to "seduce" him properly on the first one?  Lots and lots of contempt for that one.  
   
 

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You're showing how insightful you are. I enjoy your posts, they're well written and get the point across. Keep it up, very enjoyable :-)

nutandbolt 62 Reviews 774 reads
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It takes a special person to be a Provider and a special person to visit them. Gentlemen, treat these Ladies and all Ladies with respect. They have families just like you and I and they have feelings. This is a hobby and yes you have a fantasy for a hour but after your hour is up there stage name is not in affect it is their family name. I would like to thank each and everyone of you Ladies that I have spent time with and all of the rest of you. Are there some bad ones out there? Of course there are just like in society. Read your reviews and pick what is right for you. I have been in what I call the internet version of this hobby for quite some time now and I have met many good fine ladies and became friends with a few. I know I have no regrets.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 674 reads
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I thought it was funny because I heard a quote once that said, "You ladies think your pussies are made of gold, which is why your rates are high. But no one's going to pay for it." So when I vanished, I decided to go get a golden pussy haha. I wanted to take it further and say diamond, but TER felt this one was more appropriate haha

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A long time ago, when I was young, I used to cruise the streets and pick up street-walkers.  It was common then on North Sheridan/Broadway, West North avenue, and other places.  It was heart-breaking to see young woman get consumed by the streets.  Many of them got started because they lived in the neighborhood and would get solicited on the way to a 7-11 for a bag of chips.  Once they started, most never got out.  A ran into an old "friend" of mine from those days recently in a Walgreen's.  She saw me in line and recognized me.  It had been 25 years and she had aged 50 years.  She smiled and was still sweet.   I gave her what I had in my wallet and we both departed.  Hard to get that out of my head.

GBsmiling 41 Reviews 662 reads
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You look fine just the way you are all you need to be is just yourself.

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 531 reads
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Pretty obvious lol

Posted By: Polish_Pirate
Hilarious handle babe, LOL!

RussianWithLove 585 reads
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That took a lot of courage to write.  I appreciate you taking the time to be so candid.  Sometimes I forget that there are a lot of monsters out there and you guys have to deal with them. The men who take out a lifetime's worth of failure with women on those who had absolutely nothing to do with it.  I hope they are few and far between now and you only get the gentlemen you deserve.

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HangingwithBears 487 reads
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Just had to read the GD board for about 30 seconds and I had you nailed, lol. FYI, I lost your number so text me some time :-)

sexyjojo4unme See my TER Reviews 546 reads
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I was a workaholic and although I worked 12-18 hrs a day I enjoyed the money as well as the challenge in my jobs that I chose to work (when the challenge was gone from a job I moved on). That being said, by the time I was 35 I worked 2-4 jobs at a time a total of 48 jobs. However I did make time once a year (2 weeks) to travel and scuba dive etc .  
I was in my sexual prime and I had 4 different boy toys to play with due to my hectic schedule lol. So whenever I did find an hour or more to play I would call whoever was available LOL.
When I moved to Seattle for a job my GF SexyBexy saw that I was to the point of burning out on working so much. I had no time to do fun things and when I did I was too tired. So she introduced me to the hobby. I was shocked because I never knew she was an escort (I have known her since she was 18). Any way I spent 8 months just studying and learning everything I could about the hobby with the help of the other gals in Seattle and Bexy. Started in the hobby part time and I eventually left my 2 other jobs and just kept my maritime job. I was very nervous in the beginning however the gents in Seattle were awesome! So it made it a lot easier.  
The thing is BEFORE I was in the hobby I only saw younger guys so with this new venture I met older gents (1st client was 70 years old). I had never had DATY so good before with the 20 something yr olds ...that and I realized I was missing out on enjoying my prime sexual years and absolutely loved this new adventure in the hobby. What was also really fun about the hobby was when I was in college (30yrs old) I took courses to become a sex therapist LOL. So this was right up my alley! I also find self gratification that I can share new fun sexual experiences with the gents that they may not get from outside of the hobby with a vanilla gal.  
So when I get old I will look back and think about how much I've helped the gents I've seen and all the great sexual adventures we've shared together. I love my clients and personally I have dated ALOT and almost been married 3 times so my clients are my BF's and I get the perfect man wrapped up all in one by being with more than one man, So personally I will never have any regrets except that I wish I could stay young forever and keep playing!!! heeehee
Hugs, kisses and Licks SexyJoJo

RussianWithLove 523 reads
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Doing anything you don't enjoy for money is the basis for regret.   Doesn't matter the profession, it's universal.

HangingwithBears 407 reads
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minus the animal activity. What's wrong with this picture? LOL...

You're such a stitch, glad you're back, I mean, really glad!

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 536 reads
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I'm just messing around on here. Not gonna' leave my bro's and hoe's on TER just yet! :D

Way too entertaining. Only I can kinda' say whatever I want now lol

giselle69 See my TER Reviews 627 reads
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I started this exciting lifestyle at the age of 17 because I hated my job at the time (dancer in Rockford, IL) and even though I was still in high school I had a lot of older gentlemen who, unfortunately could be quite crude, so lots of bad memories.  HOWEVER,  as I grew older and more mature with a more sophisticated pallette when choosing clients, I found myself have TONS of absoutely killer memories and I'm really kind of sad to be hanging up the old hooker heels but, hey, everyone has to give up something they love at one time or another, right?

Don't worry too much about a girl's psyche because hardly anyone is forced to be a provider unless they are street girls or BP girls with pimps or something.  It's refreshing that someone actually cares though so good for you!

XXX-Giselle Parker

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