The way I look at it is this: if she were a girl you wanted to date, or even a girlfriend, would you call her back after she blew you off a couple of times? She could be miss Universe and I would have to let her go. Now you that you are a paying customer, no way, there are way too many good providers out there...this is just my take on it.
Provider ? sets up an appointment but no shows. Has multiple request for verification and you submit to everything she asks for from you. Has very good reviews and seems to be a top notch provider. Once appointment time has arrived you call to get info on location and no answer. No communication for days after.
My question is what should be the hobbiest response after you have gone through a situation like this?
do you write a review? Do you put warnings on the boards?
Because now you have gone from concern (hoping nothing is wrong) to being pissed at the lack of character on part of the provider.
because you never saw her. The lack of any follow-up communication means you have no idea if she had an emergency or a last-minute change of mind. If it's the latter and she never communicates why she blew you off, assume she decided you're LE. That's the typical MO of providers who get spooked at the last minute. It sucks but you can't fault a provider for being careful although I don't know why she would be so worried after you gave her all the verification info she requested.
I wouldn't post her handle here until you're absolutely sure she NC/NS'd you and really didn't have an emergency. PM a few of the regulars if you have VIP and let us do some checking around.
Pirate- you are incorrect. You can write a review for a NCNS. I've done it and the link is posted below. Truth is -this is just how some girls operate. They get a "feeling" and decide they don't want to see you. If that's how they do business - then we deserve the right to know and write a review about it.
Find another lady who has similar or better qualities as the no show provider. There are plenty of ladies who will meet you. I do not believe in writing bad reviews or warnings on boards, it's not worth the trouble or drama. Also, whatever the provider's reasoning is forgive and forget, because, when the roles are in reverse, you would like for her to forgive and forget.
If you don't want other hobbiests to make the same mistake as you did you warn us. I don't know why some people think that it is more complicated than that.
He gave her all the information she requested. Doesn't sound like he made any mistakes and if you think that a well-reviewed provider will lose business over one incident, she won't. A provider did this exact same thing to me 3 years ago and she now demands one of the highest donations in the city. So what did my mentioning her NC/NS accomplish? Not a thing, it didn't affect her business one bit and she remains one of the best reviewed providers in Chicago. She wouldn't be able to charge more than twice what she did at the time I tried to see her if my NC/NS mattered in the least.
Calling her out without proof that she did it on purpose would make him look bad and affect who he might be able to see in the future. Providers prefer not to see troublemakers. So he should chalk it up to experience and move on.
As far as I am concerned so far his only mistake is not outing the girl in question. By outing a NCNS you give other hobbiests information that may or may not affect their decision to see a girl. When you don't out that girl you don't give your fellow hobbiests the information leaving them with less info to base their decisions on. When several hobbiests have enough balls to out NCNS's from the same girl a pattern develops which could be a bigger influence than just one NCNS report. I don't worry if what I say affects a girls business, I say what I say to inform my fellow hobbiests and let them make up their own mind. My loyalty is to the guys, not to the girls and that is who I try and protect
I keep my ter handle private so I don't get caught in drama with girls due to what I say here.
I know many of you fellow hobbiests don't share my views on this, but I am just as perplexed by your views as you are mine.
I share your views Axxel and I couldn't agree with you more. If there's a legitimate reason for a no show for either party, then a phone call or email within a reasonable amount of time is the mature and professional thing to do.
If a guy out has the reputation of making and not showing up for appointments, would anyone be angry at the providers for sharing his name through backchannels? Of course not, their time is valuable so shy waste it on an idiot who doesn't show up.
I'm sorry dontime, but with 13 reviews you're an experienced hobbyist and you know NC/NS is an unfortunate part of the activity. Since you asked my opinion is either stay quiet about it or give up her name, otherwise your complaint serves no useful purpose.
I think the NCNS issue comes up a lot. But NCNS with no follow-up is not good. I would recommend outing her to the community, and if she is a reputable provider with many reviews, and you were to be a new client, it's your perogative to move on. Business must be good if there was no legit excuse.
The good news is that there are a lot of top notch providers in this town. Try someone else.
to read about what happened to You....I personally have never NCNS on someone...and I understand....You are Excited...You have built up this anticipation of having soooo much Fun...just to be blown off...and Not in a good way...I read on the boards about the Guys NCNSing...and the ladies feel it is different because of the finacial aspect...and then I read about the providers NCNSing...and I believe it's equal...because the men have to make arrangements...they need the release...they have been looking forward to this...and bottom line...You could have chosen someone else...however after going threw All the many Woman to choose from...You chose one of many...and she should be Excited...and Thrilled...and instead...she NCNS....it is Not right...however it's done and over and You can Not change that...so why dwell...and who knows what it could start...I personally hate Drama...My advice...Move on and Move Forward...this Lifestyle is meant to be Enjoyable...Fun...Full of Pleasure and Passion...there are many other woman to choose from...Find someone You Will Enjoy...and just believe...What goes around...comes around
Why is it different.Do some providers think that there time is more valuable than their clients? Not to mention that a typical (incall)1 hour session requires the hobbiest to block of 2 or even 3 hours for travel, parking etc.
At the end of the day I am amazed at the number of ladies who never quite get it...that this is a service business. I would share her name with the community....NO excuse for NCNS on EITHER side.
because I agree with You...there is No difference...and I also agree there is No Excuse...unless there is an emergency...but even then...there should be a follow-up phone call...it's called respect...simple
I have several great providers that I see on a regular basis. They will all tell you that I am a great client. I hobby much more than I should but i really enjoy the lack of drama and unnecessary attachement. That being said, I ventured out and did things that I havent had to do in a long while and that is why I am somewhat upset with this outcome.
It is just plain rude to have someone come from the burbs to downtown through 290 construction and not even pick up the phone or email to say I cant make it or something came up or I couldnt book anyone else so Im not going to do incall today...
this provider doesnt even list her phone number so everything is through website first. Which means you really have to plan to make it happen.
I won't out her on the board but I will share with any hobbiest that would like to know. just p m me and I will give the name.
As too there being other providers to choose from...that is correct. However for me I need to have connection for the experience to be worthwhile. So just anybody wont do for me.
If you know the cities she travels to, it might not be a bad idea to post a NCNS warning. As far as a review, I don't think you have the material for one so that's likely a no-no. When she posts here again, you might remind her of her deeds in a post just above or below her ad. This is point of these boards, no?
You should wait a few days for a response from the provider prior to outing her behavior on the boards. If she is a reputable provider, with a good review history, I would expect an apology, a legitimate reason for the NCNS and some effort to make amends (discounted future session or added time to future session). If she doesn't respond or else responds with a diva-like attitude, then I would post on the board to warn other hobbyists. If you don't wish to go on a local board and risk backlash and drama, you could use the RO board or else post that hobbyists can PM you for the providers name.
One caveat is that if she is a CL or BP fly-by-night provider, it's not worth outing her on the board for NCNS. For those types of providers, other offenses such as B&S, rip-offs, or working with LE would warrant warning others about her.
There are many providers who pride themselves in being professionals. Some of us have worked in various careers or industries which demand a high level of customer service. And we apply these transferable skills to this line of work. When you choose not to share with others the poor customer service of some providers, you take away from those who strive to offer the stellar client relations you all seek. It's really unfair to the ladies who keep their appointments and truly put thought into treating you all well, when you don’t call out the ladies who offer mediocre service. IMHO.
NSNC is infuriating but it's not the end of the world. Publically reporting it can lead to BAD consequences. I know providers and hobbyists have their private boards, and NSNC is one of the things commonly reported. Unfortunately, for this "crime" both hobbyists and providers have been outed w/IDs or personal information. This isn't something to out people over. I'm sure none of the commenters here would do that, but it DOES happen.
Any anyway -- isn't this a self-correcting problem?
The way I look at it is this: if she were a girl you wanted to date, or even a girlfriend, would you call her back after she blew you off a couple of times? She could be miss Universe and I would have to let her go. Now you that you are a paying customer, no way, there are way too many good providers out there...this is just my take on it.
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