I started a topic awhile back about this and it got buried under newer posts. I think we got a lot of great input, so I wanted to put this out here again. This subject is really important to me as someone who finds satisfaction in the hobby, but only if the providers involved in it are meeting expectations. Most of you who posted in the previous thread agreed that there is definitely a downward trend in overall quality, and provided some reasons for it. Are there any other factors that are contributing to this? Is there any hope for a return to what it used to be like 2-3 years ago? Otherwise, I might need to take an extended break from this hobby.

Violet is not ditzy...I think he was trying to say we need more girls like her

Yeah I wasn't calling her ditzy. I think most of you know what my frustrations are about. Most of us, deep down, at least occasionally want to see providers that are like the smoking hot girl from high school or college.

occasionally...I go with ALL THE TIME

Whoever messaged me, I'm not VIP, so can't read it.

Believe it or not, young hot blondes would rather not suck an old, hairy, ugly man's  smelly cock all day.  Now that the economy has turned, I believe many would rather work a real job with benefits than let some bald, overweight dude with halitosis lie on top of them for half an hour.  Sucks for us, good for them.  Thanks a lot Obama

Lately, there's been too much "exotic" or "classy" or "gorgeous".

The more I drink the less I notice my gut

Oh my...if not VIP how can you do proper research?

I happen to agree with you. The Chicago escort scene has really started to suck.  There are few great escorts still left, but the quality has gone down from what it was just as recently as 2011.  There is a silver lining to this, though. Because of the lack of quality, I'm saving more money, so my bank account thanks me.

and shook us all up a bit, a lot went UTR. Since then, BP became more prevalent and a lot of newbs and scary chicks came to the scene. I for one went other ways to find what I wanted out of this lifestyle and saw my regulars. I've seen nothing to change my mind about the current situation therefore I see no reason to change my search pattern. Though friends send gems my way from time to time I'm pretty happy with the hand I have. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from finding their desires and visiting providers supply the variety needed here. I also know there are a few here that go above and beyond.  

I'm in the middle of Detroit and Chicago, and constantly cry when I see all the beautiful ladies that advertise in Chicago.  Detroit is a waste land, with the same ladies advertising there week after week.  Rarely does any new talent visit there, (why should they, the city is broke), and the few hot ladies charge at least 500 an hour and require a deposit when scheduling the appointment.  

I booked 4 traveling ladies this month...one said her flight got cancelled but she hasn't updated even in her home town so I doubt it was true...another came down with the flu and the other two were flakes

An overview of this site will reveal that Chicago is now known as the capital of BSC providers.  We've had one provider on here try to openly retaliate for what she perceived as a bad review and another one openly try to extort/blackmail johns. This could be another reason why good people on both sides don't want to do business here.

Try approaching local colleges/universities, calling this an "internship" program.  Find experienced providers willing to take on an apprentice, training and supervising these newbies as necessary... a hefty percentage of the donation will naturally go to her sponsor, but you can also reap some of the rewards in exchange for setting up this program.

You know, the last time this was posted i didn't say anything.  

I find it odd that a hobbyist needs to vent, rant and complain to other hobbyists and local providers about said providers "lack of quality"!

A "ditzy" provider? Well flaky behavior tends to transcend all aspects of life. So you want someone who doesn't communicate well, cancels appointments, is inconsistent? This business takes a lot of work and patience, to build a good reputation. A "ditzy" person probably doesn't have the skills to manage the business or appointments appropriately

I think it's all a matter of where he's possibly looking?  And what he's willing to fork out- **on any given day you can find woman/girls that are hot or absolutely beautiful!!  By
Just checking the various places. - maybe that's it? He's not a member of the various places?

Bingo!  You nailed it. Seriously, THIS is it.    

I interpret as, " your looking for a less educated woman who you are looking to get away with the most amount of service you possibly can and pay as little as you can get away with."  
To each his own good luck on your search Sir.

Are you spying on me.......

With a few exceptions (and you know who you are) Wisconsin is the same way.

I'm on P411 and RS2K. People are incorrectly assuming that I don't see traveling providers. I do see them, in some part because I haven't been able to find satisfaction locally. It has gotten to the point where I would go through the first 200 results in P411 under Illinois - all cities, and nothing seems to click.

I want to make this clear because some people think this is just me being spoiled in Chicago. The issue was never about Chicago versus other areas. It was just about the quality now versus a few years ago. I think Chicago is great compared to other Midwest cities. I guess the improvement of the economy is having a negative effect on the hobby everywhere. It was wrong to single out Chicago.

Frankly (and I don't mean this as an insult as I haven't had enough discussion with you for me to know if you are venting, dreaming or just that shallow), it sounds to me as though you are intimidated by adult women and want an inexperienced submissive type. At one time I think we all wanted the same - However, that was when we too were inexperienced and pursuing anything that was warm, wet and willing. With age and experience I, and I suspect most men, have come to appreciate the finer things in life. This includes, and perhaps concludes in many cases, with that perfect lady who stimulates you in every way imaginable.

passing by

In case it has escaped you as to why some ladies are responding in an offended manner, allow me to explain my own viewpoint.

Many may be choosing to go the sugarbaby route. Others may be heading for green pastures. (Vegas) Could be that they just aren't that public about providing and that they exist but you just haven't found them.

Each city can be different in how well a lady does with business, even if she has a solid reputation. At the end of the day, ladies go where they are making money, and I guess the "ditzy, blonde-haired, college-aged party girl types" don't get enough support here? Perhaps the market, as a whole, prefers something else? This does not negate your interests, but it might be a reflection of what the market will bear...

Dude, if you're going to be shallow and entitled, at least own it. Because instead, you just insulted ALL providers that don't get your dick hard instead of just the providers in Chicago that don't get your dick hard.  

I think you're exactly right. I read a thread on another board recently where a guy was actually complaining that his dates seemed to be "getting off" because when that happened, he felt obligated to help them finish. He said he just wanted to get off himself. I think he must have been in his early twenties. If not physically, then certainly mentally.  

There are still quality local gals in Chicago. You'll have to do your research and info finding to find them. But they're out here. From an Economic point of view, it may have sent some gals out of state. But there are still some nice local gals in Chicago.

I think its obvious at this point that you stirred up the hornets nest by mixing your description of your favorite age & style and a general tag of 'quality'.  I think Chicago is pretty universally regarded as a high-quality market with a good variety of choices, but you're also right that the younger, mid-priced, semi-amateur providers are under-represented here.

or you are looking in all the wrong places and expecting to pay virtually nothing for something. That's mho based on your previous posts on here....

It sounds like you are looking for a specific type, but based on my rating along with those of many others in this city, I'd say Chicago isn't lacking quality. And I'm a true local. I don't get why you equate quality or "true local" with dumb and blonde.  

Eighteen years ago I was in law school.  The Internet was young and exciting.  Folks using electronic means to market themselves in the hobby were entering a new world.  Recall Craigslist started in 1995 and Backpage in 2004.  I had at least 2 law school classmates who were selling services on the Internet.  I knew of at least one woman in my law firm summer class who was doing the same.  I taught undergrads while in school and I had at least two students who were selling services on Craigslist.  When I started work at a big law firm I met at least two staff people who "moonlighted" as providers. Why did they all do it?  It was novel, trendy, and different.  LEO was no where to be found.  Risks were low.

Now you can spend more time Jack_Inoff