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I intentionally was giving "worst case example" to prove the point that even with a 50% rate cut providers are still potentially better off. Your pricing examples are closer to a realistic compromise though we're not actually that far apart. Mine would be $400 for 60, $500 for 90, but I think the sweet spot is $600 for 120. Most guys will gracefully bow out in advance as they will have felt they got more than "their money's worth".

Duh!  They want to get to "know us better"....

Two facts:

1.  Of course a girl says she prefers longer visits.  She gets more money, less hassle and probably, has to deal with less cum.

2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.

Before you start hating, yes, I understand economics and the hourly nature of the business.  It just always makes me laugh when I see some of the marketing material.  I'd be happy to have a lady join me for lunch to get to know me and then just charge me for the hour we get sweaty eating dessert.

Of course, who cares what I think, except for my psychiatrist.  Then again....he won't give me three hours for the price of one either, even though he prefers longer sessions to get to know me.

a lady that prefers longer sessions tends to heavily discount the time so if you look at the hourly breakdown you can see you are getting a much better value based on a per hour donation gifting.  

I have seen ladies who do 400hr and then it is only like 100 or 150 per added 30mins, to me that shows that she prefers longer sessions.

Longer sessions are great with the right guys and the right chemistry, with the wrong guy and wrong chemistrry it can be the most horrible of experiences.  

Another thought...  1hrs are great but can feel kinda rushed with many trying to see how many cups they can get from you in that time frame.  It is fun but completely exhausting.  A longer session generally there is less of that and more of a feel that they want to be seduced and pampered in the most sensual ways often making us feel powerful and sexy which truely can bring out the best in a woman.  Some ladies KNOW that they may not perform as well with the slam bam type and know that in the longer sessions she can more easily give herself over to the sensual side...

I am sure your job would love to pay you for less time then you work as well, however I am going to bet if they short you 1-2hrs you are heading for HR immediately.  You may love your profession too, doesn't mean you would do it for free either.  So really, why would you think a professional provider would not do the same?

I was more just making a joke about marketing material.  I read that on a site, and it made me laugh.   It was just a "no, shit" moment....of course you like longer dates!

I did like your point about longer dates with those you don't enjoy.  That would be torture.  Like in-laws that won't leave.

Rick,

Just have to ask, why are you asking this same question on multiple boards and under different names

I personally enjoy longer sessions due to my special ability and prefer to not do rushed sessions which can effect my special ability if I feel pressured. I also like to do a lot of different things during the date and have the time to share those experiences with the person I'm with. May as well get the whole package than just a 1/4 of it LOL. Also revolving doors draw attention. Don't need that when staying at a hotel.  
Like Sage said most gals who like longer sessions offer a discount so when you do the math it works out for the date who wants longer sessions and has time and doesn't want to be rushed. It a win win!

Book with women who have hourly rates.  It seems a lot of men and women love to complain about getting their dicks sucked and making a thousand dollars. Wow life is really hard isn't it?

There's many times I feel even my massage session feels rushed at the hour and the gent is saying something like, "oh slow down I don't want to feel rushed," but it's like dude you booked an hour.

Happy Hobbying!

This topic surfaces pretty regularly and I never commented before because it always seems to go south and end in flame wars when it should be a logical discussion based on a personal business model.  I absolutely agree that providers should never be doing extra hours for free. Time is always money. However I don't understand why more providers don't use a sliding scale that would maximize their hourly rate profitability.  

Depending on how you operate, you have a number of fixed costs that you have to cover. If you operate out of your home and put minimal effort into getting ready and service primarily regulars then you should stick with a flat rate. But if you book a hotel room or do outcalls that require transportation expenses or put time into preparation for each date (e.g. doing hair and makeup, verifying new clients, etc) then a sliding rate might make more sense.  

 
A typical day for ladies I have seen is to rent a room, travel there, do their prep and see 3 clients (on a good day).  
 A decent room downtown averages about $125 with taxes, Uber or parking garage and vehicle expense is $50 round trip, and another $25 for miscellaneous  (makeup, condoms, lube, wipes,whipped cream, vibrator batteries, naughty nurse’s outfit, nipple clamps - sorry, got off track there).  So average of $200 in fixed expenses.  

 
Imagining you are a well reviewed provider who can ask a higher level rate, consider this:  

Scenario 1- you see 3 clients for one hour each at $400. 1 is a repeat, the other 2 are new.  
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.  
1 hour verifying the new clients.
3 hours of actual client time
3 hours in between to prep and accommodate scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 10 hours (assuming all goes as planned)  
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 10 hours = $100 per hour. Not a bad day’s work, but pretty busy and stressful.

 
Scenario 2  - You see 2 clients for 2 hours each with sliding scale of $400 for first hour and $200 each additional hour. 1 is repeat, 1 is new.
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.  
0.5 hour verifying the new client
4 hours of actual client time
1.5 hours in between to prep and accommodating scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 9 hours (assuming all goes as planned)  
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 9 hours = $111 per hour.  
You increased your hourly wage, took home same amount but worked an hour less
Had half the stress only wondering if one new client was LE or an ax murderer
Even though contact time was 4 hours you probably had less physical wear and tear with 2 guys over 4 hours than with 3 guys over 3 hours.  
The guys were thrilled you gave them a great rate and rate you higher because they didn’t feel rushed and made a better connection.
With only 2 clients you had less chance for cancellation (though one client cancelling does have greater impact).l You also might be able to cut back on advertising expenses as you need fewer clients overall and (IMHO) have more repeat clients.  

 
Each provider has a unique set of variables, but I think it’s worth considering. Personally I would be unlikely to book 2 hours at $400, but offer me 50% off additional hours and I’d be pretty tempted

Windynerd391 reads

Well said!  

It's unlikely to have 50% discount for the second hour and on.  But I always consider it as a great sign when I see the price dropping a bit for 90 mins and then a bit more for 2 hours and so on.  

For my perspective as client, the best sign is $300/hr and $400/90mins rather than $450/90 mins;  $350/hr then $450/90mins; $400/hr then $500~$550/90mins etc.  

The 'discount' has to be big enough to be a really attractive deal, but small enough that providers are willing to give up. $50 discount at $300 level seems a lot, but the amount of work you can save should be worth it and I will be happy to pay a bit more and feel more relaxed and not worry about the one-hour clock that much.  
 
 

Posted By: nipring12
This topic surfaces pretty regularly and I never commented before because it always seems to go south and end in flame wars when it should be a logical discussion based on a personal business model.  I absolutely agree that providers should never be doing extra hours for free. Time is always money. However I don't understand why more providers don't use a sliding scale that would maximize their hourly rate profitability.  
   
 Depending on how you operate, you have a number of fixed costs that you have to cover. If you operate out of your home and put minimal effort into getting ready and service primarily regulars then you should stick with a flat rate. But if you book a hotel room or do outcalls that require transportation expenses or put time into preparation for each date (e.g. doing hair and makeup, verifying new clients, etc) then a sliding rate might make more sense.    
   
   
 A typical day for ladies I have seen is to rent a room, travel there, do their prep and see 3 clients (on a good day).  
  A decent room downtown averages about $125 with taxes, Uber or parking garage and vehicle expense is $50 round trip, and another $25 for miscellaneous  (makeup, condoms, lube, wipes,whipped cream, vibrator batteries, naughty nurse’s outfit, nipple clamps - sorry, got off track there).  So average of $200 in fixed expenses.  
   
   
 Imagining you are a well reviewed provider who can ask a higher level rate, consider this:  
   
 Scenario 1- you see 3 clients for one hour each at $400. 1 is a repeat, the other 2 are new.  
 2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.  
 1 hour verifying the new clients.  
 3 hours of actual client time  
 3 hours in between to prep and accommodate scheduling.  
 1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.  
 Total = 10 hours (assuming all goes as planned)  
 You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 10 hours = $100 per hour. Not a bad day’s work, but pretty busy and stressful.  
   
   
 Scenario 2  - You see 2 clients for 2 hours each with sliding scale of $400 for first hour and $200 each additional hour. 1 is repeat, 1 is new.  
 2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.  
 0.5 hour verifying the new client  
 4 hours of actual client time  
 1.5 hours in between to prep and accommodating scheduling.  
 1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.  
 Total = 9 hours (assuming all goes as planned)  
 You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 9 hours = $111 per hour.  
 You increased your hourly wage, took home same amount but worked an hour less  
 Had half the stress only wondering if one new client was LE or an ax murderer  
 Even though contact time was 4 hours you probably had less physical wear and tear with 2 guys over 4 hours than with 3 guys over 3 hours.  
 The guys were thrilled you gave them a great rate and rate you higher because they didn’t feel rushed and made a better connection.  
 With only 2 clients you had less chance for cancellation (though one client cancelling does have greater impact).l You also might be able to cut back on advertising expenses as you need fewer clients overall and (IMHO) have more repeat clients.  
   
   
 Each provider has a unique set of variables, but I think it’s worth considering. Personally I would be unlikely to book 2 hours at $400, but offer me 50% off additional hours and I’d be pretty tempted.  
 

I intentionally was giving "worst case example" to prove the point that even with a 50% rate cut providers are still potentially better off. Your pricing examples are closer to a realistic compromise though we're not actually that far apart. Mine would be $400 for 60, $500 for 90, but I think the sweet spot is $600 for 120. Most guys will gracefully bow out in advance as they will have felt they got more than "their money's worth".

There's no hate from me at all :).

Now ... #2 is the only point I definitely agree with tho. My 1hr is 400,2hr 650,3hr is 850 and so on to reflect that I prefer longer dates.  
About #1 a lot of cum can be produced in longer dates too nudge nudge wink wink. :)

longer hours because I'm a genuine romantic. I like to converse, cook dinner, share wine, dance a little, engage in deep sensual kissing, give body to body oil infused massages, if theres a big enough bath bathe together.... I like giving my partner massages, cuddling, a little housekeeping to show my appreciation... Im very different from other providers. I actually appreciate my dates company. I enjoy learning about my partner as well as pleasing them. I really do become their girlfriend while we're together. Thats just me though...I give actual unique experiences...and I can sincerely say I love the time I spend with my dates. xo

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