yea its everyday stuff we deal with..
A Girl I'm seeing could not work out of her Incall location today. So she asked me if I could drive her to a couple of Outcalls to her Regular Clients. I said Sure. One of her Clients set up an appointment and we were on the way to his location. Then as we're about 10 minutes away he Cancels. Now she's really Mad at this Guy. So she gets another call from a Client. She sets him up with an appointment. So we wind up waiting in the area for about half an hour because of the Cancelled Client. Turns out the Cancelled Client can see her. But was at the same time that the second Client's Time Slot was for. Now she's really Pissed. Now she has to reschedule the second Client's Time Slot for the Cancelled Client's Time Slot. Luckily the second Client was able to change his Time to see her. There are other Stories she's told me about the B.S. and Grief her other Clients give her. I'm one of her Clients myself. For some reason she Trusts me enough to tell me these things. After seeing this, it gives me a Deeper Appreciation of what Providers do for us.
Everything is always more complicated than it seems.
I've been trying to pm and email providers with not much luck in getting a response. From your post perhaps I need to call. At least I'm always where I say I'll be when I'm supposed to be there.
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This was this past Thursday;
Since the weather has been so Cold this week, she asked me to drive her to her Incall location and drive her home. I said no problem. I enjoy spending time with her even if it's just driving her to and from her Incall location. So Thursday I pick her up and I know right away something is Wrong. She has a Pissed Off look on her face. So I ask what's Wrong? She says a Regular Client called and made an appointment for 12:30 that afternoon. As it gets closer to the time, he doesn't call or text her. He finally Texts her at 1:30 and says he'll be Late. She's Pissed but is ok with it. 2 hours go by and he doesn't Text or Call her. He finally Texts her and says he's stuck in Traffic and was on his way. Stuck in Traffic for 2 hours was a Lie. He finally arrives about an hour later. She says he had Alcohol on his Breath. To add insult to injury the Guy pays her 60 Dollars. Pissed Off she tells him he only has 15 Minutes to see her. This Guy had the Gall to ask for an hour. She kicked him out after 15 minutes. Keep in mind this is a Regular Client she has known for a few years. This is just another Story of what these Girls go through when dealing with us. If you have a Favorite Girl you're seeing please Treat her Right.
You're depressing me ROGM. I sure hope this provider friend of yours experience is the exception and not the rule.
...for real with this tripe? I mean, seriously??
What reason would I have to make all this up? I posted this so as to give you guys what these Girls go through with some of these guys. I guess being Single gives me a much Deeper Appreciation of these Girls as opposed to a Married guy that's been Jaded. just saying.
Well, you really got me there. Kudos to you. However, your self-proclaimed "deeper appreciation" only makes you come off as a sycophantic braggart. Oh, and by the way, there's no need to end your reply with " just saying". It was implied. Any reader knows you were "'just saying", because you said it.
Just saying.
Do a search and you will find that he's FOS.
Just saying.
Have you any idea how many providers are in the very same position as she is? Now, I don't think it's a good idea for him to go around broadcasting this about her because I would be utterly humiliated, but it does not make him a liar either. I have no doubt that many providers here, are also in that same place...they HAVE TO negotiate to make any money here because of a variety of factors. Could be looks, location, desperation, etc. but it does exist. Not every provider has the luxury of an education and a 9-5. Personally, without both of those, there is no way in HELL I would be here, because I see what you have to put up with when you are desperate!
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Perhaps you have nothing but free time to drive a provider around, but here's the deal...
Once guy 1 canceled, his time was kaput.
She should NOT have reschedule the second appointment, but guess she was trying to maximize her earnings and figured guy 2 was a sure thing.
It's not like the service is being performed for free, so I don't get this what they go thru stuff. This is a monetary transaction for the exchange of services.
Providers cancel on hobbyists too. I have driven miles, even gotten hotel rooms only to be canceled on. Has nothing to do with being single nor married. It's called life experience.
Even see women you have no reviews or are you just into story telling.
I'm not Bragging. Why would I? As far as Story Telling, you really think anyone can make this up? Us Guys see this Hobby from our POV. But it's enlightening to see this Hobby from a Provider's POV. So being a Provider isn't as Glamorous and Exciting as we may think it is.
FYI, getting pissed when a client cancels really does not solve anything...requiring a fkin deposit, does. On the very 'rare' occasion I have had to cancel (less than 5 times in 6 years) I always offered 100 off the next possible time we can see each other. I have NEVER pulled a NCNS. To many, we are whores who are easily replaced. We don't have bills to pay, children to feed, or a job to go to that we have to work around to see you. If a guy sees a cheaper option, he can cancel on us and just claim "work called." We are just a hole to fill, and not many give two shits about what happens when a guy cancels. Lucky for your friend, another client called at the right time...most of us don't work that way. Funny, when you start requring a deposit how 'work' never calls lol. Just sayin. If a guy has even 100 bucks invested, his ass will damn sure show up.
It also sounds like your 'friend' takes too much shit from these guys. Let me do her screening for a week bwahahaha. She won't have to worry about that ever again. People are going to treat you the way you allow them to. If she did not put herself in a position to need this money so bad, no way in hell she would have to put up with guys like that...I sure as hell don't, and I am not just losing 300 bucks when I blow someone off for being an asshole. Providers dependent on the hobby for the bulk of their income, tend to have it the worst, so why anyone would do that is beyond me. I don't care how little education you have...ANYONE can go out and get a job if they want to.
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It also sounds like your 'friend' takes too much shit from these guys. Let me do her screening for a week bwahahaha. She won't have to worry about that ever again. People are going to treat you the way you allow them to. If she did not put herself in a position to need this money so bad, no way in hell she would have to put up with guys like that...I sure as hell don't, and I am not just losing 300 bucks when I blow someone off for being an asshole. Providers dependent on the hobby for the bulk of their income, tend to have it the worst, so why anyone would do that is beyond me. I don't care how little education you have...ANYONE can go out and get a job if they want to.
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Unfortunately she does take a lot of Crap from her long time Clients. This is how she makes her Money to pay her Bills and support her kids. There's a Trust she has with me to tell me these things. I'm not sure why that is. I was trying to keep it just a Client / Provider type Relationship. Somehow it turned out a little more than that. Thanks London for your Insightful Thoughts
ROGM and UDO are some of the most notorious trolls here in TER land...and they are BOTH from Chicago! It's sad that they give such a great city a bad name. Them and Rahm Emanuel. LOL!
Udo is a troll for sure, but I think ROGM is a good dude, who just got too close to a provider. It's really none of my business, but I hope he is at least seeing other women, because this could turn out very badly. Women who are needy, always seem to latch on to the first caring guy that shows them the least amount of attention or compassion...I've seen it over and over. Many providers are in fact here looking for a "benefactor" or a savior, because they are too damn lazy to do it for themselves!
Albeit unintentionally.
there was a girl I had been wanting to see for awhile, she travels here every once in awhile. She works for an agency that has glowing reviews. I schedule a week out. I call when Im leaving, 45 mins early. The agency says she is at the hotel getting her room, call us when you are in the hotel and we will give you the room number. I get there and call, they say we will call you right back. 10 mins later I call and they say she is still getting ready. Funny because at the same time I see the girl walk up to the front desk to check in, carrying all of her bags. Now Im kind of pissed. So now for the next hour I keep calling them with no answer. I should have just left. Then the agency finally answers and says she is not at the hotel yet. She wont be there until 3, about 4 hours later. I calmly say Im sorry but that is a lie, I saw her check in. The agency says I ll call you back. calls back saying she doesn't feel well. I reschedule for 10am the next day. The only reason I rescheduled was because she was soooo hot and had great reviews. So It gets even better, I call 10 mins before 10am the next day and they say we don't have anyone at 10am. They have me for 10pm....Luckily 10am worked out just a little late.
I know providers have it rough, im sure there are ways to cut down on asshole clients but clients have to deal with bullshit too
You CHOOSE to hobby. You are not PAID to be here. If a provider cancels on you, you SAVE the damn fee. If a client cancels on us, we lose the fee, the hotel cost, and the money from another guy we told that time was booked. I realize things cut both ways but to say a client is out more or as much as we are, is absurd. The math is easy to figure out who loses more. You're not here paying your bills..you are SPENDING your bill money on hookers.
Providers CHOOSE to be in a high risk, unregulated business enterprise where there is not a lot they can do in situations like this but charge cancellation fees, refuse to see the client any more, or expose the client for what he did and risk the fallout. To say that clients don't have to deal with shit is simply not true. Clients risk exposure and the breakup of marital and family relationships, not to mention entire careers, that will carry a much bigger burden than the loss of income from one date. Client's risk the loss of funds (which can be subjectively substantial) from providers who do not provide the advertised and expected experience, or who post erroneous and/or outdated photographs, funds that could have been spent with another provider who would have satisfied their particular needs. There are a lot of gents who simply don't have the means to see reputable, high end women such as yourself. In some cases they are saving for a while to participate whenever and wherever they can. Given the unregulated nature of this business there will inevitably be elements from both the provider and hobbyist sides of the house that act inappropriately and cause harm or distress to the other side. Nevertheless, everyone that participates in this endeavor is an adult (hopefully) who made a voluntary and conscious decision to be involved in an illegal enterprise for which there is no legal recourse should they be harmed. The reasons for doing so are no doubt varied, but it appears obvious that an overriding reason is to satiate some unfulfilled desire, be it sexual or monetary. While the rewards can be substantial, there are inherent risks involved. At the end of the day, each individual has to assess whether the good outweighs the bad and act accordingly.
You are wrong that some providers choose to be here...some have no other options, though I am not much for a sad story, they do exist. Unless the client pays for a room, he is still not losing nearly as much as the provider does when she cancels on him! Is he losing 300 plus per hour? NO..he is SAVING that when she does not show up. Give me a break. I have a very simple solution instead of whining about guys who cancel on me...I don't see ANYONE without a deposit lol. Fact is, most providers can't afford to do that because most of these fks won't pay one, KNOWING they might have to back out! If they knew for sure they would make that appt. a deposit would not be such a big deal.
You also misread my post...
I did not say you did not DEAL with shit, I said you did not HAVE TO, meaning you CHOOSE to fk around on your wife with hookers, so don't blame us for that honey. You are not PAID TO BE HERE. You have the option to go jack off or go pick up some slut at the local watering hole...many providers do not have another option to go make this kind of money. Please... your d*ck is never as important as someone's family honey. If it is, you have issues, and are the very reason providers exist...because of what men will go through just to get a fkin nut lol. Thanks for playing. 
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You now what, you're absolutely right. Who am I to make assumptions as to what choices women have when I'll never stand in their shoes and be faced with the issues they confront. And how can I speak for any of the men who participate in this hobby when all of our combined experiences are so vastly different. Thanks for pointing out how ludicrous and absurd it is to generalize about what motivates people to do the things that they do
But I can only assume that the overwhelming majority of woman engage in this business voluntarily. While clandestine and illegal, it is still a market-based enterprise where supply and demand dictate the fees being charged, the level of service being provided, and the ease in which a client can gain access. I am not an economist but it just makes sense that the higher the quality of service being provided (i.e, appearance, ambiance, enthusiasm, skill), the more liberated and selective the provider becomes in terms of consideration being charged, frequency of sessions, and choice of clientele. The provider can cover these situations by demanding monetary enumeration from the NS or NCNS client before booking another session with the gent. They can also refuse to see the offending client anymore, regardless of any financial consideration. It doesn't excuse the boorish client behavior, or restore the provider to the status quo ante as if the appointment was never cancelled, but it is nevertheless a mechanism for preventing it from happening again. The bottom line: this is a high risk, high reward industry that nobody is compelled or obligated to participate in. For every provider that has been stood up, I am sure there is a hobbyist who can tell a story of being stung by a bait and switch.
yea its everyday stuff we deal with..
The rest of it is just tiresome ("humblebrag" I saw another hobbyist call it - perfect term) but man your random and inappropriate use of capitalization is really bumming me out!!
But it's still bragging about how he drives his hooker around while getting OTC time. I hope he realizes that driving her to appointments is a felony in IL. He's the equivalent of a pimp in the eyes of the law.
Not a very bright guy...