I was speaking to a new friend the other day who shocked me when he said that he really didn't know anything about me because he didn't read my website, only looked at the photos. I receive tons of emails from prospective friends who mention enough of the site for me to know they've visited several of the pages, and then they ask me "so how much" when that information is clearly outlined on my Consideration page.
Gentlemen, what is your take on this?
Do you read the text on our sites?
Is it worth the time and effort we put into designing our sites to make them beautiful pieces of art, to craft elegant prose to entice you to visit, to delicately word our offerings and requirements to let you know we are educated and refined?
Or are you only looking at the photos?
Would it serve you better to visit a simple site with a few photos and a flashing dollar amount in the corner so you know how much? Do you just want to cut out all the BS and get to the point?
I am not being funny or rude, or calling anyone out, or joking ... I really want to know if I need a refresher course in Marketing to Men.
Thank you for your time and input.
Kim
I love a great website.
1st. It lets me know the woman is real if I can get a sense of her unique personality through her pages. I usually read everything about a provider I am interested in seeing. Any fool (bait and switchers/LE) can steal pictures and put up prices, but I can get a good sense of a real lady if she takes time to develop her image. I usually don't trust providers with no website at all. I trust her even more if her personality shows through her website.
2nd. It's classier. If you are a provider who loves what you do, I love to see that and I love to feel as if you aren't in it only for the money but for the mutual experience.
Some men just want a quick bang, and I think the pictures and dollar amounts would be enough to attract them. Others (like myself) want a sensual experience from an authentic woman. A well thought out website goes a long way in my book!
Speaking as the newbie here, I can honestly say that I want to know as much as I can find out about a lady before I make the call. Whether it\'s your website, reviews or post\'s, I want to have some idea how you see yourself and how others see you. Don\'t get me wrong though, if you post pictures, I\'m bound to look at them. And I\'ll probably look at them before I read anything about you. Just a guy thing I guess. But after that, I\'ll dig a little deeper and find out about you.
I hope this helps fulfill your questions and I look forward to looking at your site soon!
Sincerely,
Chuck
Wow where do I begin?
Men are from Mars Women are from Venus!
First time I saw that I wondered who is from Uranus? Yeah funny, I know I laughed too!
Another fact to be considered is the divorce rate here in the greatest country on the world is 50% right? Just seems it is not just you that has questions about men that seem to have gone unaswered for generations. For eternity, really! Just tough to work it out, allegedly.
We men got plenty of questions too let me tell ya! Like when you ask us "does this dress make me look fat"? Do you really want us to answer that honestly? It is tough out here let me tell ya! Tough to try to work it out!
I must say at this point I am eternally grateful that I love and adore women. If I was a woman I would be a straight-up full-out lesbian. Men with their dicks and their hairy asses, YUCKO! I really do not see what you ladies see in us men but probably more grateful that you do see something at least from time to time to keep you interested.
Ok enough of a lead in, right?
To answer your questions from a male perspective simply I can do it in two simple words: It Depends.
No, I am not wearing them YET but it all depends. It all depends on who is looking at your site. It all depends on how the day has gone for that guy.
I would say sometimes I check out a ladies site and all I do is look at the pictures. Colthing should not be optional by the way. I mean they ought not to be on the pics in the site! Let us see the goods! We men are very visual. YOUZA! Then at other times I read through what a lady has taken the time to say about herself.
I must say if a women has a hard time spelling sometimes that might turn me off. Other times she might be just the one I HAVE TO HAVE!!!!! So see Kim, ITS COMPLICATED!
I have found people and I guess you could put men into this too, fall into three categories.
Some can, some can't, some shouldn't!
To describe that a bit some of the guys who look at your well crafted site can read but do not. Some cannot read and some you hope they cannot read so they cannot get in touch with you.
The bottom line is it is all just a big ole crapshoot! And the thing is it all depends on you too!
Sometimes I bet you would as a beautiful woman would like to be ravaged by a hunk. You know the pool boy who is ripped and hung like a mule. Just have him take you and have his way with you.
Then other times maybe you would like to have a man who could completely seduce you with his mind. You know be all romantic and shit and say all the right things and knows where to touch you when and how to caress the right spots with just the right touch. And can maybe stimulate your intellect along the way. Goo for him!
Then there are the guys you would not ever want to touch you under any circumstances, right? Mostly, I have found providers usually know this from one simple aspect, hygene! Pretty much a dirty smelly dude is a no-no no matter how smart or hung they are!
So what I am getting at is there is really no conrete answer. You get what you get! I heard a song once that said, "Sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you are the bug"!
So sometimes men will take the time to appreciate how you crafted your site! Sometimes they just want to look at the pretty pictures. But trying to spend too much time figuring it all out is pretty much a useless pursuit.
The strongly religious among us would love to have all of us try to fit into their concrete, black and white universe they all work so hard to convince themselves we all exist in. Sorry this here human experience is not like that in reality. We all have perspectives and they change from time to time! Happens to all of us and GREAT thing cause the same over and over and over is BORING!
Variey is the spice of life and thank goodness for it!
I find however that most of us hang out in that grey area where we can change our mind at the drop of a hat.
Anyway, not sure if that answered what you were questioning. Maybe it helped in some way. I do not know.
You know why I do not know? Cause it all depends on the frame of mind you were in when you read this! So maybe it would help you later if it did not seem to do the trick now! So save this and read it over and over and over till it seems to help ya! Just my suggestion!
See the words here I have written will not change, I commit to you I will not edit, but your frame of mind will at some point, get it?
Ain't that something?
Shifterp OUT!
Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to put into words such a great response and for helping try to explain the motivating forces on a male.
It makes a lot of sense.
I get it, I really do.
You are awesome.
Well Kim if it was not useful I hope it was entertaining and if not entertaining, useful!
I still think overall if you design your site, include the info there that you feel is most pertinent and really like it yourself, then you might entice the kind of guy you would most like to spend time with.
Most important of all is that you like it because you are most likely gonna be the one who sees it the most.
A guy will look at it to determine if he is interested enough in seeing if he can spend some time with you.
Just always keep in mind you can always change it and see if it draws in different, more or any type of guy you want to see or not! Or change it around and see if you like it more with changes you have made. It is your site and shows how you want to show yourself off to the world.
Hope I was helpful and take care!
How apparent is it I have no idea what I am talking about? LOL
It is true though that nobody cares what you know till they know how much you care! I cared enough to chip in my two cents worth!
Shifterp! OUT!
Kim,
To answer your question Keep It Simple.
I'm searching to find out about an individual not a website. I'm looking to open pics, then reveiws then donation expectations. I like to open a site that loads quickly and is well laid out with all the drop down components clearly labeled. I'm not impressed with complicated sites that take a long time to load and are difficult to figure out. That include use of languages other than English on the dropdown tabs. And PLEASE no surprizes like music (that I don't want others to hear) Duh!
IMOH, your site is very good with one error. I don't understand why you don't have a gallery. Most attractive women have a gallery, so when one is not there, all sorts of warning lights are going off which I don't think applies to you. Distributing the pics throughout the site is sort of OK, but again, I should not have to figure that out.
As for why some are asking questions, your site is pretty clear. Some might consider your "consideration" page a little complicated, but it only takes seconds to read it and figure it out.
Hope this answers your question and remember it's just one person's opinion.
When I find a lady I'm interested in pursuing ... Starts with the pics, then I read everything I can. I like to know what you like, what to expect and what's cool or not so cool.
From what I gather, from both reading posts on the subject, and from just simply having asked in the past, they seem to like it to stay very simple. Something tasteful, easy to navigate, no crazy music, or flash players, etc. A lot of times they peruse our sites at work (bad boys!), and loud music kinda draws attention. Or even at home, being on the computer and having to scramble and turn the volume off if they have a SO nearby. So its seems best just to leave the music out of it.
They seem to like it be very easy to navigate and read like I said. A page for your basic info, your schedule and availability, your rates, your pics, and how to contact you. I myself don't include things like blogs, because quite honestly, although for gentlemen, its a great way to get a feel for your personality, I doubt many read them, and I feel they are pretty much all set by being able to read your basic bio, and looking at your pics. Or even following your posts on the boards. The majority of guys I see that are actually even TER members rarely post on the boards, and may or may not do reviews, but they often say they enjoy my posts. So I leave it at that.
Having good pictures is of course important. Good clear pictures that are tasteful, and allow the viewer to get a good idea of what they are getting into. (Pun intended!) Quite a few gentlemen actually prefer photos that aren't totally nekkid. They enjoy photos that leave something to the imagination. And you don't have to spend hundreds or thousands on photos.
So basically its good to keep it simple. The boys have a limited attention span after all.
Hope I don't sound like a know it all, I'm definitely not, its just that I did a LOT of asking around while working on my site, and I still ask opinions every so often. Good luck!
Hey Gabby, good title, and I agree with you, you are no dude!(in a good way)
Your reply was really probably much more helpful and useful than mine. I bet though I had more fun writing mine, hehe!
I would say though I am not sure the guys told you the truth about nekked. We really do luv nekked! Pics and otherwise!
I know it might just be me so I might be wrong, just saying. I would rather use my imagination to try to solve stuff like global warming or world hunger, not trying to figure out what a beautiful sexy woman looks like without any clothes on.
I mean being a guy I get to hear what guys say to guys! They, we, are really pretty crude and rude with our penis and hairyness! hehe
We really do talk a lot different to each other than we do to you gals.
You can look at it like this, if you want to. We could set up an experiment in an office. Put in a place to sit, a camera and a table. On the table put a Playboy with nekked and a modeling magazine, maybe like lingerie! Just send some men in there where they have to wait for an extended period of time and see which magazine gets the most views.
I am not trying to be rude or crude just trying to express an honest opinion from the males persepctive.
Maybe it is kinda like one of those 5 biggest lies ever told, ever heard of them?
1. The Check is in the mail.
2. I won't cum in your mouth
3. It is just a cold sore
4. I love you
5. Ok so I cannot remember this last one but I bet most of the guys who would read this if they were talking to the guys and not telling the gals what they thought they wanted to hear, you could put we like you in pics with clothes on more than ones without so we can imagine what you look like without them. Just trying to be honest.
SP
LOL ok, and I did say your post was probably much more useful and serious but I am not a very serious person so what am I gonna do?
Pretend to be serious?????
I used to be really serious until a great friend of mine looked at me and she said "Scott you have to learn to laugh at yourself cause everyone else is". Ok so I took her advice!
Pretend to be serious????? Just not in my DNA anymore!
So when I get to feeling like I might be slipping into serious, I get nekked and stare in a full length mirror! When I am being really stubborn I turn sideways and that always help me get my humor filled perspective back in the saddle!
I just think the audience is so vast that you cannot really do anything more than what makes you feel the most comfortable and hope it draws the kinda guys you would like most to spend time with.
Make your website look and say what you want it to and leave it at that! Can't please everyone so just please yourself! That is the Motto from the Self Lovers Convention I HEARD about once!
That is starting to sound serious and like I think I have ANY clue what I am talking about so time to go!!!!!
Take care!
SP
5. Trust Me! LOL
And by the way you were dead on with the thingy about us men having short attention spans!
I would be getting back to what I was doing before I started writing if I could remember!
Off to something new and intereting I guess!
Take care!
SP
Gabby, maybe between the two of us Kim found some info useful to her.
At least we made the effort!
Take care!
SP
for your most excellent advice. I got caught up in the game and was distracted (short attention span
Good times!
KK
I definitely appreciate your point of view as well, even if you are most assuredly NOT a dude ![]()
Kim
I'll try one more time to respond to your message Kim. Apparently my first response was blocked.
I like sites that are simple. I like drop down selections that are well described. I don't like music that starts up when least expected, I don't like folks who get cute with labels as in I don't speak French or many other languages, i.e., I don't want to have to open up every drop down to figure out how to negotiate the site.
As for your site, it's pretty good and well designed. Only comment is, I don't understand why you don't have a gallery. It's not a good idea to have gents search for pics. It give the impression that your pics might discourage contact. Based on your pics in your ads, that does not appear to be true. Hope this helps and I hope this one gets posted.
I appreciate your input and comments.
And my thoughts for not having a gallery were that...
1. EVERYBODY has a gallery, and I was trying something new and different. I like to be unique.
2. By placing pictures on each page, my hope was that fellas would visit EACH page to learn more about me and find helpful information.
We all have different approaches and thought processes...those are mine ![]()
XOXO,
Kim
I must admit when I was actively hobbying I would look mostly at the pics and if there was interest I would read everything. I would look for how well it was written and layed out. And something that was really important to me is I like to talk to the ladies next, maybe a few times to get a feel for their personality.
Regardless of a website, a large number of gals recognize that the economy isn't what it used to be. Thus, it is not uncommon to find gals offering specials on certain days, times, etc... You see it all the time...
I think all have made the obvious points have been covered, however the one thing I consider key is a calendar that is kept up to date. I see a lot of sites that have a calendar tab that is not used. To me this is a must have feature. I don't want to waste my time or yours, if I know I can only meet on a certain day, trying to get in touch to see if day X is open or if you are in town, etc...
Just my 1/2 cents worth.
I may be getting in on the end of this discussion but I read whatever information is provided on a provider's website. I particularly like it when there a Services provided section. If not a FAQ section that may answer a specific question I have or allows me to ask one is invaluable.
personally, I always read through the websites...but I will agree calenders seem to be rarely updated ladies, just my 2 cents.
I agree this subject could get complicated, but I like what Gabby wrote....Keep it simple but make sure we get enough of what we need to know, no sound, check for typos and grammar, KEEP it UPDATED (pics/schedule/etc), mix up the photos and have them easy to blow up and scroll thru...Remember that men are reading this and how short our attention span is....Maybe put the words in between some pretty pictures for full retention LOL
Thanks to all for this thread....I know we all have our preferences, but there is A LOT of crap out there even from some very nice ladies....
Kim, I read the websites very meticulously, usually several times. I think this is probably largely a function of the personality of the reviewer -- I happen to be very detail oriented, and like to have as much information as possible. I'm sure there are some guys out there who are only interested in the eye candy. But I can assure you and others that there are plenty of guys who are interested in the finer details, the depth beneath the surface, and the essence that lies beneath appearances, and who find such insights exciting and enticing.