~Temptress Tia~

Meet me in Raleigh: Wed. Feb.25 & 26th

5'2 / 105 lbs. / 34D-24-34  

Hair color
Copper blonde

Eye color  Hazel

I Love
Manners, a sense of humor, a sense of romance, ability to carry a great conversation, adventurous, and having fun

Girl friend Material?
Yes

Smoker
No

Favorite Drink
Smooth merlot... I also love mojitos and crystal champagne

What you will like
I am easy to get along with and I like to have fun. I'm adventurous and open minded and the cutest little thing you will ever meet.

Spoil me
I love fine jewelry platinum and diamonds, Jimmy Choo sandals, a Rolex, the usual girlie things, paid tuition to a really good college

Favorite Quote
"You are my lover and I am your mistress"


Shhhhh...
Now Tia is what you can call a little bundle of Love! Slightly Asian, Slightly American and all Girl, you will wonder how much wisdom and such a great giggle can fit into this perfect little package.

Let's see ... Normal rate = $400 per hour, or $100 per 15 minutes. At that rate, 45 minutes should be $300. How exactly is adding $50 to the standard rate is a recession special??

Hi,
 We don't usually book under an hour but have had many calls asking if they can pay 350.00 and not stay the full hour.
Just trying to make it work a little easier for those who don't want to spend the hour or $400.

If Tia was "slight asian" she be screamin'

"Oh me love you long time.  Me no boom boom black man.  Me love you long time".

Apres, it's the economy, stupid.  You want to stimulate business, cut the bs, and cut the prices.

Meeeee soooooo hooooooooooorny...

SS

Then why not make your "recession special" $300 to -- at the very least -- not be RAISING your rates?? Please don't advertise a special based on your compassion for the down economy with a higher rate, all the while trying to give us the impression that you're sacrificing something when you aren't.

Yep $250 would be the price .

You dont need to attack this girl...her rates are what they are...if it is not for you...oh well...find a girl that has the rate that is for you.  

xooxoxox

Then she should not say it is a recession special then since that is a joke

Avery ... This is mathematics issue in regard to the idea that this is a special when it is not, exactly as Timbow said. There's no attack on the girl or Apres Vous, simply pointing out the lack of logic behind this so-called deal.

You are saying she lowered her rate from 400 to 350 but for less time...well how is that different from all the other ladies rates?  I myself along with many offer 300 for the hour but a half hour for 250...so....so while other ladies are taking 50 off but 30 minutes off our time....this beautiful woman has deducted the same 50 of but only 15 minutes!!!  So actually she is offering a better deal than me and the other providers.  

I think what is bothering you is her higher rate all around....which again is her perogative and should not be attacked for it.

There are still men out there that are not effected by the economy and can afford those rates and obviously she get's it or she would have changed it.

There have been so many great women that have left this board due to all the attacks...it is suppose to be a fun and entertaining board that brings men and women together.

xoxooxoxoxox

Avery, babe, I must correct you. YOU are not offering 300. for the hour. YOU are offering 1 hour for 300.
If it was the former, your phone would be ringing off the hook.
Kisses

Avery ... You don't know me. Please don't imply to understand the confines of my budget or assume that $400 is somehow out of my reach. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard and I find that more offensive than the original topic. I've used Apres Vous for multiple hour appointments and the standard rate is not the issue. I've flown porn stars to my city and dropped several thousand on the afternoon. I've put more cash into this hobby than I truthfully should have and, trust me, $400 an hour is nothing. The Apres Vous standard rate is not nor has ever been my point.

Also, I'm not attacking anybody so please don't imply that I am or put me in some group of dickheads who simply attack on this board for no reason. Again, you don't know me. You are wronging tossing out assumptions and I don't appreciate it. The "can't we all get along?/this is supposed to be a fun board" mantra is wonderful and I'm not disturbing that. There isn't a single instance in any of my posts where I've attacked Tia, Apres Vous or members reading this board, including yourself. I'd appreciate the same from you.

For the final time, my grievance here about using the economy as a selling point to make an offer that is actually a HIGHER rate than the original. Using "recession special" as the lure, one should rightly conclude that a reduced rate is being offered when that is clearly not the case. The point of my original post was to point out the misleading nature of this "special" and to alert fellow members of this board that they would in fact be more financially savvy to pay the standard rate because the reduced rate is simply reduced time at a higher premium. I point this out and you come after me for somehow having an issue with the original $400 and add that I'm attacking the girl and then call for an end to the attacks?? Please ........

Guys, use Apres Vous. They're a great agency with a very good selection of touring providers. Very easy to use, highly reputable and extremely convenient. I'd highly recommend paying for the full hour to get the most bang for your buck. Avery, you've never been on my wish list and you haven't done anything here to earn that privilege, sorry. Best of luck to everybody and I hope this ends the nonsense that's erupted with this thread.

I definitely did not attack you...I only disagreed with your opinion/comment of a ladies rates and/or marketing.  Or is that not allowed?  I think it has been brought up way too many times that a providers rates shouldn't be brought up for discussion ever.  They are what they are...whether it suits you or not...whether your math adds up or not...

I guess whoever disagrees with you can expect to get slammed....how fun....

Some how I think I dodged a bullet not being on your wishlist!  

Now shut up and show me your ass!!!

When women offer shorter time increments, they almost always offer them at what amounts to a higher rate. I generally don't offer half hour sessions either, but in this economy, I have started to offer them. My half hour rate certainly isn't half of my hourly rate, but it IS a lower rate than my hour rate. Gentlemen who do not want to pay for the full hour now have the option of paying a slightyly lower rate, but for less time.

The principle at work here is the more time you request, the lower the rate goes. This is no different from how most bussinesses operate. Go to the grocery store and randomly pick any item in the store. Compare the price for the product in a small package, then compare the same product in a larger or economy size package. The more you buy at one time, the better the price is. Its a smart way to sell more product.

So basically, this isn't bad math, its good business.

Another one with his nose pressed against the window, fuming because he can't afford the price of admission.

Sheesh, do you REALLY think this is the way to get women to lower their prices? Do you REALLY think a woman is going to lower her prices if she doesn't need to?? Of course you don't - that's why you are hiding behind an alias. I'm SHOCKED! Shocked I say, to discover a personal attack cloaked behind an alias. I thought this whole "lets moderate the entire community and treat them ALL like children" idea was to prevent this from happening.

There was nothing wrong with Avery's post. And there's no need to slam her for posting it.

While a lot might not see $350 for 45 minutes as a recession special, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the agencey was doing. If I guy couldn't see spending $400, then for a little less $$ he  could still see the lady, but not for an hour.

Most ladies that offer half hour rates don't post a half hour rate that is 1/2 less than their full hour rate..

If you want touring ladies to continue to put the Carolinas on their schedule then MAYBE discussing the posted rate would be better in a PM or e-mail, rather than making a negative comment about it publicly on the board. This is just a suggestion.

And to the gentlemen that attacked Avery on the board, have you ever used the service in question? To me it seems like if you had a relationship with them you wouldn't have done this...but who knows.

And for the record I can see why some wouldn't think the offer was much of a special, but hey, a nice PM or e-mail would probably get you a lot more than putting your objections on their ad thread!

Happy Hunting Everyone...

Steph

This is why I never chime in on the boards. Now I'm being accused of hiding behind an alias. Seriously people, get over yourselves. I'm not attacking Apres Vous, the lady or anyone who's commented here. I'm "fuming because I can't afford the price of admission?" WTF?? These accusations are so outlandish that it blows my mind.

The simple point -- PLEASE DO NOT USE THE ECONOMY AND RECESSION AS A SELLING FEATURE IF YOU ARE NOT, IN FACT, REDUCING YOUR RATE. This has been my message all along and I've been called out for everything except for my point. I sell a hamburger for $8.00 but because of the recession, I'll sell you 3/4 of a burger for $7.00. Just how in the hell does that make sense? This is not a sweet deal.

I don't care what Apres Vous is doing and I'm not sitting here scratching my head wishing I could scrape up that massive $350 or $400 to make this call. I just don't like the lure of a special that is not one in principle. I'm not arguing over prices, I'm questioning the "special." Understand this. Please don't get so defensive and assume this is or has ever been more than that. You wonder why people aren't on this board?? These insane reactions to a simple point.

AN ACTUAL RECESSION SPECIAL WOULD BE $350 FOR THE HOUR.

For as much bloviating and foaming over what is perceived as personal attacks, those are all I'm getting in response to my point and I'm finished with this conversation. That said, I fully expect someone to comment behind my back to prove how ridiculous and childish this has all become. Who's going to be the first??

OK, see, I was nice to you. I didn't post a scathing response to your little dig at Avery about how she never made your "favorites" list. I gave you a bit of a break. I did start to type a reply, in which I suggested that you had already done the damage and presented yourself as low rent and low class. And I suggested that your attempt to portray yourself as some sort of hobbying playboy in your final post was meaningless. But, I gave you a slight brownie point because you at least had the grace to emphasize the fact that you have patronized Apres Vous, and recommend to others that they patronize them. I thought that was pretty classy, even though it came on the heels of a petulant post to Avery.

If you will look at the entire thread though, you will see a post by "SoftShoes". Click on that post, and you will notice that there is no envelope by the poster's name. That is because SoftShoe is an ALIAS. THAT post was totally uncalled for, insulting, and replete with racial slurs to boot. My response HERE was directed at HIM, not you, and he really deserves far worse than what I gave him. A little thin skinned are we perhaps?? Rather ironic that in your response to a response that was not directed to you, you suggest that others should "get over themselves". With great humility, I dare to suggest you might take such advice into your own consideration.

Now then, having dispensed with that bit of unpleasantness, lets get back to a message you just can't seem to fathom. There is no problem with Apres Vous' math here. What you see is a very common bussiness model. Here is an example. I have a favorite gourmet coffee that is made by a local company here. They used to offer it only in 1 pound bags, and a pound goes for about $9.50. Times are tight though, so recently I switched to another brand that is less expensive. I noticed the other day though, that they now offer 3 pound bags as well. Now, if they worked their pricing the way YOU think Apres Vous should, then a 3-pound bag should cost $28.50. (9.5x3). It doesn't. They are selling it for $24.00, which means that I am paying $8.00 per pound when I buy the 3 pound bag. So I'm getting a little bit of a discount simply because I bought more of their product. Good for me since I get to enjoy my gourmet coffee, and good for them since they are selling more of their product.

This is EXACTLY what Apres Vous did, only they did it in reverse. In order to make it easier for gentlemen to patronize them, they offered a lower price point for those who feel the full hour rate is too steep. In exchange for a lower price point, the amount of time, analogous to product, is lower. When I'm standing in the store, I get the same option. If I can't afford to pay $24.00 right now for 3 pounds of my favorite coffee, I sitll have the option of going for the lower priced 1 pound bag. Yes, in doing that, I get less product overall, but it is there as an option, and I can then decide which option to choose based on my budget. Frankly, when it comes down to it, when I'm enjoying that perfect cup of coffee in the morning, my taste buds are going to be happy either way.

So fella, please just relax. No one directed any insults at you. The (self-censored)-jerk who made the crack about "love you long time" though, that's a different story.

My final suggestion to you, and to all the guys who have written posts griping about rates - guys, we GET it. We hear you. We really do. But at the end of the day, it is and will always be up to the lady to decide what an appropriate rate is for her. Alot of women have adjusted their rates in various ways in response to our economic situation. Some are offering more time, some offering shorter session, some a mixture of both, and some women haven't made any changes at all because they don't need to. Threads that descend into this sort of petty bickering don't help, don't change anything, have goten REALLY REALLY old, and are a disservice to a lady who simply wanted to run an ad. Insted of getting her ad out though, this thread has been hijacked by gripes about a discount that doesn't meet your expectations. How is that fair to the lady? This is her livelihood here. If you can't respect that, then don't call yourself a hobbyist.

I never said that I dont think YOU personally can not afford her rate...you read into that...first miscommunication.

WE DO understand your point about the "recession special"......but it is you who is not hearing our point...and I am saying this with a smile on my face.....her special does make perfect mathmatical sense!

Forget her special for one moment.....if I write...my hour rate is 300 and my half hour rate is 250....does that make sense to you?  YES it does.

I think you are trying to disect her rate into increments of 15 minutes and saying that she is charging 100 per 15 minutes and 45 minutes adds up to 300.  That would be accurate.....but she is not charging in 15 minutes increments....

all the poor girl is trying to say is hey...if 400 is too much for you....I will charge you 350 for less time...completely legit. Happens every day.  But she shouldnt be thrashed on an open forum for it....and of course others have added onto your comment which drew negative attention to the really beautiful woman.  

So we are aware of your point of view but do not agree with it....that's all....and the ladies on a daily basis keep asking the guys to stop bringing up rates....a lady has the right to set her own rate...and we kindly ask the gents if they dont want to pay that rate then smile and move on...

again...show me your ass!  LOL

Maybe with the way the economy is going we as great hobbyists could ask the government for a bailout!!!!!!!! Maybe I could get my package stimulated!!!(too good to pass up)

Then again once the government gets involved they tend to screw things up completely!

Cost overruns, waste, fraud ect. ect. ect!

Holy Crap Batman I have just proven to myself in front of all of you I had an absolutely horrible idea!!!!!

Hey, I am only human and a mistake every now and then is good for my ego!!! Without an occasional mistake I would take myself WAY too seriously!

Guess I need to get back to American Idol results show!! How bout that 16 year old(Allison) with the red hair! Man can she sing!!!!

Where oh where is Shan-jia????

Till next time Sports Fans,

Shifterp OUT!!!!!!!!!

Sins ... There was no way to know you were talking about Softshoes and his post. I didn't even bother waste my time clicking his link and can only imagine based on his 4th grade reply. I actually completely disregarded his input in this discussion because it was irrelevant, insulting and didn't apply to my point.

Your coffee point is buying in bulk and most providers offer reduced rates for extended hours. I'm a fan of that concept and so are most providers because you get to know someone over the course of 3+ hours and sure, the rate is reduced. One of my favorite providers drops her normal $700 to $500 with 3 hours or more. Apres Vous drops from $400/hr for 1 hr to $350/hr for 2hrs and I clearly understand the point of that for both sides.

I don't need to labor the issue with the reduced time/higher rate because I'm tired of talking about it but I appreciate your response. If all the discussions were on point as yours was, there wouldn't be so much divisiveness. I never raised a single objection to the lady in question here, it's more with the agency (which I've used several times) and the nature of the supposed discount. Again, I appreciate you having an actual discussion instead of tossing darts. Next time, be specific in terms of who you're talking to. I re-read your original post and still didn't see where you were singling out Softshoes while the entire thread was seemingly being thrown back at me. All the best.

Whether her special seems strange to some or not, it is what it is and that's her choice.

If she were asking a question and wanting an opinion about her donations and why she should do this, then I could see some responses. However, she is not asking for opinions. She is advertising -- pure and simple. I have to laugh every time someone has to comment on a lady's donation. Yes! There are times when something may seem out of line to you hobbiests, but again: If you don't like it then don't buy it. Write a review.

What's up with all the Southern homeboys? They need to cook up some hospitality, some great food and we need to have us a picnic.

Now, Tia! Come here for your light spanking and candy kisses. You're a beautiful lady !

Hugs,
ciara

-- Modified on 2/26/2009 8:27:27 PM

I've got dibs on spanking all the southern asses Ciara you have to get in line!

Me First!!!

Can I get some candy kisses Ciara?

I guess the gentleman is advertising his opinion.

A rate is also an opinion..and ladies if you are charging rate and are comfortable with number of clients....don't let these comments of "lower rates b/c of a recession" get to you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I myself...again this is my opinion if a lady whom offers 1 hour for $400 and then comes back with a special recession rate of $350 for 45 minutes - to me the math does not compute and I will not see her.

But I'll get in line for it. Candy kisses are always given and welcomed.

Hugs,
Ciara

Avery,
Can not let this opportunity pass to be in your corner.
You were on my wish list long before I ever got to see you)
After being a part of your world that afternoon, I only wish that I had been able to see you sooner.
You are on my ATF list now) XOXO--your pvt plumber guy)

It appears that Tia and ApresVous have decided to change their pricing for this recession special.  See the link to her latest ad.  She is now offering 1 hour for $350.  I wonder if this thread had anything to do with that?