Ajoi, these instances werent with the TER family. Mine was a backpage thing. I think I can say that our ladies will meet expectations. They are not the bait and switch types, mainly because ugly women do that and none of these ladies are ugly.
I am trying my best to visit as many as possible and the only surpises thus far has been their camermen failed to bring out the beauty I see.
I just wanna add if they have no reviews or the reviews are bad then your taking a chance.
This question comes from the face picture thread. I saw several people that if the girl isn't at all what you expected you should hit the road. Now for guys at this point its hard since we are typically thinking with the wrong head, but once she opens the door and its either not the girl in the pics or the pics were the same girl only she is 10 years older or 40 lbs heavier etc... how do you gracefully exit the situation. Should you give her a little something for her time or just turn around and leave with your donation in full? I have had this happen once where the body pics looked good, but when I got there it was clearly an airbrush job (one that had to have been done by Monet). I stayed only since I wasn't sure how to handle it, or if I left would I get jumped by the guy in the next room.
a few times myself & I have discussed a few times with friends. I only had one guy tell me he walked out on a girl. Most stay simply because they are already there. While it is an uncomfortable situation, I think both parties have the right to terminate an encounter. If I walked in & I was uncomfortable, I would simply excuse myself. No need for an explanation or to hurt feelings a simple "oops" should be enough. To save face, I would leave her something for her time & a no thank-you should be enough.
Kinda made me mad. It was a back page a few years back and the pics were of someone else completely. She opened the door and I stepped in and asked where is ______. She said I am. I said "Oh wrong girl" and I reached for the door and she started fuming. I didnt say another word. She cursed me very loudly and with passion. I just left and I dont feel any guilt.
Not sure what I would do if it was simply an airbrush job. I like the "professional pics" but I love a website where there are a few "snapshots". Sometimes I actually find the snapshot more appealing. You know less model more girl next door. Just my opinion.
leaving a penny. If anything, she owes you for wasting your time. She knows exactly what she has done, so there's no need for you to explain why you're walking. Bait & switchers prey on meek or horny guys, but they factor into their scam a portion of guys who will be too smart to go along with it. It's a racket of percentages.
Of course, the best remedy is to stick with well reviewed providers in the first place. If her pics are fake or outdated it will come out in her reviews.
I too often read about hobbyists wasting the provider's time and I agree with you it goes both ways. It has happened to me more than once. One time I stayed because I traveled about 50 miles to get there and, well, I was ready for it. I'll never do it again. I''ll just say never mind and move in. And, that also goes for providers who don't publish face pics and won't send you one even after being screened. If I show up and the body is fine, but she looks like the Seahag I'm out of there and I'm not leaving any money either.
I had it happen to me once. Was for a massage and when got there realized the person was TS. Nothing in the ad gave any indication of her/his sexual situation. Made an excuse that I had left my donation in my SUV. Turned around, high tailed it out. It was the first thing that came to mind.
He/She would up putting my phone # up as her contact # on a myspace page for TV/TS. Reason i knew i started getting phone calls late night on my cell. After about 20 calls i finally got to the bottom of it threatened her with a lawsuit and the # was dropped of the site.
So retribution is always a possibility but think it would be rare.
Bottom line is do as much homework as possible. I learned the hard way.
Of course, the best remedy is to stick with well reviewed providers in the first place. If her pics are fake or outdated it will come out in her reviews.
I think graceful, subtle, & discrete is best. If for nothing else, to keep everything as low-key as possible. The first time it happened, I stayed & didn't enjot it. I said to myself "never again". The second time, I left a C note & exited politely. Guess what?? It still pissed her off & she gave me an ear full of B.S. ------ even though most people wouldn't have left anything.....& I left her a C note to "keep peace" & to try not to hurt her feelings.
For sure, every situation is going to be different. However, if & when it happens again, I am still going to be myself & do what I think is right.
Probably not the right or popular answer, but my two cents anyway!!!
giving her that C note probably only encouraged her to push for more money. I think that a guy's desire to "keep peace" is something a B&Ser sees as a weakness they can exploit.
The various opinions on here is what makes this board what it is. As I said.......I may not be right. In fact, probably wrong. However, I think this subject has some "gray" areas:
1. If you get there & it is obvious that it's not the same person, you shouldn't leave a cent.
2. If her ad says 140 & she's 190, you shouldn't leave a cent.
3. Obvious deceit......... you shouldn't leave a cent.
4. If the face was turned in the photos, blurred some for privacy or is not quite what you were
hoping for, give the lady a decent amount. Why? Because, she may be a 5 to you, but an 8 to
someone else.
The big difference is somewhere between purposeful fraud & honest misinterpretation of what we have built up in our mind that we are hoping for from that provider. If it's deceit; leave ZERO. If it's disappointment, be a stand up guy & leave a decent amount.......then excuse yourself.
Just sayin'..........lots of gray areas between black & white. It ain't green, either!!!
I totally, 100% agree with the "do your homework & read the reviews". Best advice ever. Honestly, since I discovered TER (through a provider) I haven't had any issues because I stick to the well-known, well reviewed, EXTREMELY HONEST, lovely & sexy ladies who make this board fun. You know who you are..........& we all thank you!!
no apology needed. Your post was spot on & made me think (surprise, huh?) & realize that there are those who are just flat out deceitful & then there are those that may not mean to be deceitful......but just are not up to the standard we were searching for........but were trying to maintain privacy by blurring out their face. Either way it's a major disappointment!!! Just one is honest & one isn't. Like you said.....stick to the good reviews & TER.
This has happened to me 2 or 3 times. Once on an appointment in my hotel, I continued the appointment because the lady, while not the one in the photo, was attractive. However, she immediately began to upsell and I asked her to stop. She didn't and I asked her to leave, She got angry and I politely told her that she would leave either with or without her clothes on - the choice was hers. Needless to say, she left. Both of the other times, I simply stated that she was not the one in the photo and terminated the meeting. I did not compensate anyone for their time as it was an obvious deception and the intent was clear.
On an incall, if you are worried about getting "jumped by the guy in the next room," I would suggest you perform more thorough research and, if you are uncomfortable for any reason, leave quickly. There are many wonderful, sexy women out there, but there are some that aren't so nice. The key is research so that all parties, both male and female, can feel and be safe.
I guess it all depends on the situation...and whether you think it's worth staying for or not.
But you should NEVER feel obligated to stay or pay if someone has deceived you!
Thankfully this has only happened once to me and it was early on in my hobby endeavors. If I recall correctly the girl had reviews and they were good, no one mentioned it wasn't her in the pics or that they were old. Bottom line is lesson learned and thanks to the Carolina's board and TER I have become a little bit less of a noob on how to handle this and any other situation that may come up.
As you point out you can't really rely on ads, or reviews to be spot on. As a result I'm pretty deliberate about who I see.
I haven't been deceived yet, but if I was I wouldn't feel I owed anything to someone who deliberately deceived me.
Just today I had a gentleman mixed me up with another provider with a similar name "Veronica" - I am Vanica. So when he came to the door he was expecting a taller, white woman with blonde hair. NOT ME.
It was not my fault he screwed up and called the wrong number. I actually sat there with him for a few minutes and showed him my Eros ad, and he pointed out the ad of the girl he was trying to contact. He admitted he made a mistake.
So I did not try to mislead him, but still spent my time/effort preparing to meet him and blocking off time for use to spend together.
In this scenario - should he leave the donation or any part with me?
Kisses,
Vanica
I would have been forced to shut the door behind me. Then I would have given you a great big kiss and we could have continued from there. But, thats just my take on the situation.....
My only worry would be if the contribution was right.
I'm probably not going to make a lot of people happy here, BUT this is jus MY OPINION. If it went down like you said, he should have realized it was his mistake........then decide if:
a. there was chemistry, attaraction, etc w/ you & went on with the appointment, & the two of you had yourselfs a good old-fashioned adult time.......... or
b. said, "damn, I am so sorry. Here's some thank you notes for your time
The guys on here want to be treated right & not be deceived. Same goes for the ladies. I know the guy in question didn't deceive you.........he just made an honest mistake. But, you shouldn't have been held accountable. It's just mutual respect.
OK, OK everybody.........stop throwing oranges at me !! HaHa
He certainly should have left you a something. To compensate you. Sounds like he made a major mistake for whatever reason. I am sincerely sorry that such a thing has happened to you.
NO. cost of doing business. it may payoff for you in the future, he have refer someone to you. i swear, you women "think" you have a "business" but you have no business sense at all. SOMETIMES you have to think about the customer and not your selfishness.
Since no one else has broached this part of the discussion, I'll be put on my asbestos suit and ask.
Why when this happens don't we be brave little boys and post reviews as Bait & Switch?
There was a face to face "meeting" between two people. Might not have been any sex involved and I really think that is the center of the question for the "Review GURUs to answer. What actually constitutes a meeting. If it's and obvious Bait & Switch it needs to be made public.
Any answers from the Gods or their interpreters?
"HOW DOES THE REVIEW RATING SYSTEM WORK?
Your reviews should be as honest and objective as possible since a TER staff member will verify them. Even so, actual experiences still vary due to the simple fact that everyone has their own opinion. A lady’s performance may also vary from client to client, or from one encounter to the next, so please try to be fair. Please use the rating system below to express your thoughts on and experiences with each provider. Tell us how the provider measured up to your expectations."
TWIN Brother!!! Tried it an you actually have to have a transaction. You cant even report a no show. And that stuff ought to be reported.
Bait and Switch happens more often on Back page and such. Then they do with the ladies on TER.
However, if that were the case and it happens more often then not. I personally, have had that happen two or three times on Back page and even on City Vibe. When it has occurred. I've turned around and left in quick order. Never putting the money down until I was sure.
Now on the other side of the coin. You need to be aware of the fact. That TER takes a very dim view of any negative reviews period. I spoke with Roadshow about this today. We both agreed that you need to post a negative experience. I have been warmed off from leaving negative reviews by a friend of mine who runs and agency in Greensboro. I didn't realize that there was a possible backlash. To giving people a heads up on a bad situation. I've come to understand. If your shopping in the bargain bin of back page. You will be highly likely to get just what you pay for. There are RARE exceptions to this. So, I still troll through. You see fake pics or other BS on there more often then not.
I don't believe these "alert" type of reviews get posted on TER, which is a blind spot IMO. If they are, I've missed them and apologize.
Why when this happens don't we be brave little boys and post reviews as Bait & Switch?
There was a face to face "meeting" between two people. Might not have been any sex involved and I really think that is the center of the question for the "Review GURUs to answer. What actually constitutes a meeting. If it's and obvious Bait & Switch it needs to be made public.
Any answers from the Gods or their interpreters?
"HOW DOES THE REVIEW RATING SYSTEM WORK?
Your reviews should be as honest and objective as possible since a TER staff member will verify them. Even so, actual experiences still vary due to the simple fact that everyone has their own opinion. A lady’s performance may also vary from client to client, or from one encounter to the next, so please try to be fair. Please use the rating system below to express your thoughts on and experiences with each provider. Tell us how the provider measured up to your expectations."
Don't give her a single wood chip! Leave reviews in every medium possible and make sure you alert as many as possible when you can respond to her threads. PLEASE!
Ajoi, these instances werent with the TER family. Mine was a backpage thing. I think I can say that our ladies will meet expectations. They are not the bait and switch types, mainly because ugly women do that and none of these ladies are ugly.
I am trying my best to visit as many as possible and the only surpises thus far has been their camermen failed to bring out the beauty I see.
I just wanna add if they have no reviews or the reviews are bad then your taking a chance.
even though my reviews are consistent, I have a disclaimer on my site. In short, it says, I reserve the right to cancel if i am uncomfortable (ie. he isn't freshly showered and won't accept one, or is pushing for things i don't provide). He may also walk away if he is uncomfortable. I won't haggle pricing with him or take a lesser one (this has happened once because for whatever reason he thought I was Mexican, when I am clearly AA)if the client got his info wrong. Just Leave ( this has never happened though). The only time I expect a partial gift is if I have attended an outcall, at which point a C-note is sufficient to cover the inconvenience ( again, this has never happened). Do some research, if she has consistent reviews that are up to date, there shouldn't be an issue.
xoxox
Simone (pronounced Sim-Moan)