Hello:

Does anyone see the irony or hypocrisy when some providers require your real name in the screening process?  Even when services such as Date-Check and Preferred411 provide more than adequate screening and explain why the real name is not required.

I don't provide my real name because it is not worth the risk to my career.  Providers have provided client lists to authorities on more than one occasion.



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Its a matter of discretion. Its something that each person has to judge for themselves as to wither or not that is an acceptable risk.

Really??? trying to have a rational discusion here..

what makes you think your career, family, kids privacy is any better then mine or hers?

You are looking for a product ( for lack of a better word) I provide that product.
I take the time and energy and RISK to place ads and pay for them with my pictures and reviews
You answer the ad.. and I ask for your info to insure MY safety..................

Let me point out to you..
You are more 2 to 3x times my size and strength
I invite you into MY home
and I alllow you to share in the pleasures of MY body..

This is a game of trust. I have to give you some trust and you have to trust me in return
If you do your homework, you already know more about me then I do about you. You already know where I live and play and  If you are smarter then the average bear just by taking the time to have a conversation you will know what car I drive and where I hang out and alot of other information...

I can assume you like the wham, bam thank you kind of encounters.. which is why I am trying not to be angry...

Your life, career, Kids, family, reputation is no more vauluable then mine and if you choose to play then get over yourself and know who you are taking risk with or STFU! Do you really think we want to call attention to ourselves? We really do have our very own private lives...

Back to the Wham, Bam encounter. Those girls ask very little info. YOu might feel better there. but you can't have it both ways!

We don't give you our names because it is unnecessary........... you already know where we play and how to find us.. ( those of us that are safe, sane and stable)  If something happens to us becuase  dudes like you think they can get away with it. Is my Gf suppsoed to tell LE she saw John yesterday? who is JOhn? I have kids that count on me.............

Girls in this business are already treated poorly in situations and the least you could do is man up and be able to say you had enough balls to own your actions. If I get caught and it is very possible, I have to own it.......... why are you any better?

To each his own and I know there are ladies that do not ask any questions.. go see her.......... You can't have it both ways..

Ok, I am done but I can go on and on about this! feel free to PM me if you want to debate it........

I agree totally with you Jessica. I don't mind sharing my info with a provider, its totally my choice and I will live with the consequences of that. If I didn't want I wouldn't play. If you see some of the girls who don't care who you are, your taking a chance on being busted, robbed or possibly even killed.

Personally, I do NOT care who you are in your "real" world it is of no interest to me at all.  
What I DO care about is making it back home.

There are numerous nightmarish tales available on both sides of this coin.

Researching your playmates is the safest option because when dealing with someone who has as much to loose as you do they tend to safer for the most part.  

It's really that simple. It's not irony or hypocrisy. The vast majority of the "Carolina Girls" who post on this board have a certain criteria or set of rules they follow. It's for their safety and also helps them weed out total low-lifes......aka dickheads to you & I.

Here's a thought for you to consider; when is the last time a provider looked up your website, drooled at your photos & fantasized about your services? Yea, yea, yea ........ your site probably says you are BFE, right? Right !!!  Get the picture?  You are the one SEEKING them out......not vice-versa. You know more about them in 5 minutes than they do about you even after the first meeting. I know it hurts our egos (not!!!), but they don'y give a flying f--k that their "hobby friend" is "Johnson Wannabanger" who is the C.E.O. of Magnum Condom Company. They just want to be safe & make a repeat "hobby friend" if things click. They have a life too. I can assure you they DO NOT WANT some hostile encounter with a wife or S.O.

Here's another 180 degree look at this. Any business owner must develop a business model as a compass for success. These ladies have developed a "Hobby Model" as a guide to their success......& safety. These ladies are not only beautiful & sexy; they also have an excellent "hobby" accumen that any businessman would be envious of.

So, just realize that requiring certain info is a "hobby" decision & their perogative. They have made  these decisions for the betterment of themselves. If you don't like it................don't participate. There are some "girls" who probably wont ask for your name or even for a reference. But, when that happens, let us know how the "WTF?" service was. That would be a shame, because you could have had GFE!!!

In this crazy wild world of sports it all boils down to perspective, right?

Ok a wordly quote, "he who has the gold makes the rules". ok everyone get the anaolgy or do I need to spell it out for yas?

Look bottom line, this is so GREAT...Flounder Animal House.

Anyone, ok you guys, any of you actually stop and think for a second just how lucky we are to be able to get together with some of these women? I mean, are you SERIOUS....Johnny Mac!

OMG have I overachieved!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL

And guess what a playa does when he gets shot down, probably goes back home and cries to his Mommy, right? hehe

A fella with his head on somewhat straight dusts him self off, decides what he really wants and understands to reach the top of the mountain there are gonna be bumps and obstacles that get in the way.

"You can't win um all, hell the Heels have lost two this year so far but Feb 2nd is coming dukies.

Ok enough bloviating, the point is any gal has the right to decide for themselves how they are going to determine who they share their time and companionship, RESPECT....Sasha Cohen...you know that Ali dude.

If a gal has screening requirements that seem too tough move along to the next one. If you keep having to go on to the next one it might be your requirements that need to be re-evaluated. Any life left unexamined is nothing...or not worth living something like that.  Can't remember who said that but it does kinda make sense.

The good, no the great news is there are so many fish in the sea and such a shortage of time and moola that NONE of us could ever get um all like that old bull at the top of the hill suggests. Tip toe, remember that story?  Ok Beefeater is doing his best but there are millions more he hasn't seen than the number of the ones he has. It is all good.

I have not made it through some screening processes. Most likely will miss out again. So what, NEXT. You know what that means coach, it means I am in the game. Do I choose to keep repeating those experiences in my head over and over and over or do I know if I keep alooking I am going to find a pony in this huge pile somewhere.  hehe

Of all this bloviating the only part of it that should be remembered when dealing with women in any way shape or form is the quote from Sasha Cohen...RESPECT. yeah I know Areatha too, sing it girl!

Just keep that in the forefront of your mind when interacting with the fairer sex and all will be well....well mostly.

Look what choice do we men have, cozying up to a meat whistle? Ok this quote is so widely used not sure who to give the credit to......NOT! Of all the things that confuse me about women the thingy about them actually being attracted to us men is absolutely at the top of the list everytime I look at the list.
How is that even remotely possible???  LOL

It is just so simple, just give them what they ask for and you get what you want for a little while. KISS keep it simple s....you know the last part.

Other than that? Who knows???? Obvious yet I don't, hehe, hey isn't humility a virtue????

Shifterp OUT!

Everyone..............except for Dumbo (I mean Dabo)......knows where the real Carolina is !!  Just Kidding !!  I love your passion for them there 'heels.

Great advice for "Sircumsalot" or "Your Excellence" or whatever........

Lordy!, Lordy! Shifterp,

I'm sitting here at my console with a mirror to my left that I keep glancing at and then back at some photos of life's most beautiful creation---scantily clad girls/ladies of the human kind) I have always wondered what these divine creatures see in us mortals

I am unabashiedly lusting after and uttertly forever and ever confused by the fairer sex!!!!!! hehe

Sounds like other dudes are too!!!!!!  WHEW!!!!!!!!

Shifterp OUT!

Best way to settle it KR, If God isn't a Tar Heel then why oh why is the sky Carolina Blue?????

Anyone, Anyone Bueller?????????

And did you see what my Heels did to Nicholls State last night?????  WOWZA!!!!!!!!

I know who is Nicholls State.....just saying.

Shifterp PUT to WORKIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Although "My Carolina" is different than yours, I must admit basketball on Tobacco Rd. is special !!
Best --

Her is my response to Misstress Jessica, who requires the client name in the screening process.

1) “what makes you think your career, family, kids privacy is any better then mine or hers?”

My privacy is my business and I pay you for that privacy.

2) “This is a game of trust. I have to give you some trust and you have to trust me in return.  If you do your homework, you already know more about me then I do about you.”

If you do your homework with references and screening tools you don’t need to ask for a name.

3) “I can assume you like the wham, bam thank you kind of encounters.. which is why I am trying not to be angry...”

Thank you for the insult.

4) “Your life, career, Kids, family, reputation is no more valuable then mine and if you choose to play then get over yourself and know who you are taking risk with or STFU!”

What?

5) “Back to the Wham, Bam encounter. Those girls ask very little info. You might feel better there. but you can't have it both ways!”  

I guess you missed the part about screening with Date-Check and Preferred 411 (there are others).  I don’t think you know what they are.

6) “We don't give you our names because it is unnecessary.”

You are a hypocrite, you can’t have it both ways.

Anyone ever heard of Eliot Spitzer?

I don't like it and I don't participate and I agree it is their prerogative....I use The Erotic Review to screen and verify providers.  I do not do my homework and then ask the provider for her name or I.D.  I ask for the same mutual respect and treatment in return.  I am approved by three verification services DC, P411 and rs2K,all have plenty of GFE.  So you are quite incorrect by assuming I see providers that do not screen (your WTF friends).  I believe the provider can adequately screen me with the use of theses services and references.  A "Hobby Model" should incorporate more sophisticated screening techniques.  Am I lying to anybody?

I don't think you are lying at all & it's pretty obvious you don't like it or agree with it. That's ok, because everyone has their views. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me right & vice-versa. However, it is............what is is.

Honestly, when I first started, I had some of your thoughts. However, I was lucky enough that a certain provider took the time to explain the "Do's & Don'ts" &  the "Why's & Why Not's" of the hobby. Included in the tutorial was the reference & the real name issue. I listened to her & this hobby instantly became much more fun instead of frustrating & confusing.

I wasn't trying to "stereotype", but a lot of posts like yours are generally from wannabes who don't have the means to enjoy seeing these types of providers & want to just bitch about it. It is now evident that you appreciate seeing a more upscale provider who provides a genuine GFE. It will only get better if you accept their guidelines. If you just can't live with it, understand that your hobbying may be somewhat limited.

1. You pay me to be discreet.. You pay me to be classy,. you pay me to be safe and to make sure that you are safe.. Do you not think that I give up some of my privacy by putting myself out there and by inviting you into my place?
2. You are wrong.. I use many screening tools and I and several other ladies do NOT see anyone without a REAL given name! I am speaking for a few ladies that I know and again as I stated there are many ladies that run THEIR business the way they want to. But when I am screening and I see that a lady does not know his full name. He is denied access.. SO, your number 2 in my book.. is not an excuse but good try on your part!
3. Sorry, we all have opionions! You obviously have yours.
4. Let me explain it to you again.. in simple terms. you stated your privacy is your business.. If you are in my home and sharing the pleasures of my body then I have the right to know who you are.. Guess what STDS are a two way street. and I will use this as the obvious example. I want to be able to contact you if there is a problem.......... I don't give a shit if you are a CEO or a auto body repair man, I don't care about your wife or your kids and neither does any other lady in this business. Am I safe in your care?  I have enough going on in my own life, I don't have time or the need to be a part of yours. There is some suggestion here on your part that you think that your life, kids and family are more valuable then mind. I too worry about crazy, love struck idiots stalking me. which leads me back to.. Am I safe in your care. because if something happens to me I want someone to know where to look!  It is really as simple as that..

Call me what you want. You are twice my size, weight and strength. I invite you into my home and if something happens to me. They will be looking for you. Not...Your Excellence...

I am a date check and P411 member thank you. amoung many others. Nice try once again..

Go back and re read the elliot spitzer story again. He did not get caught because she knew his name.

I am far from dumb and darling if you think I should bow to you, You are dead wrong. My goal is only to give equal respect............... something you obviously think you are above....

This conversation is over. but you can PM if you want to discuss it like two equal adults. I love good conversation with two adults who are willing to listen..........I doubt that is a challange you can handle....

RS2K requires US to give THEM:

1.  Your FULL Name
2.  Your Phone Number
3.  The city and state listed on your DL

It's the only way they'll let us know you're legit.  

I say this even as I do NOT require your full name IF you have references.  I'm just pointing out that you're lying about something - either you're not RS2K verified, or you DO give your full name, at least sometimes.

Unlike the others here, I know how RS2K - I travel a lot, and have toured Chicago more than once.

I'm late to this board posting, but I must congratulate you on your ability to clearly articulate an effective business model.  You obviously paid attention in grad school.  Do you happen to be in need of a new Executive Assistant in real life?  

"Are you kidding me?  My whole life is a lie."  George Costanza