If any guys out there see some of these ladies that are trying to abuse the environment here in NC for their own profitable gain, you are an idiot. Some of these ladies have the actual nerve to try to up charge their rates by almost 100%. Are you changing the things you are willing to do or allow? Have you received a different face, body and/or personality? Are you made of gold and can we take a bite, shit, two to three bites? Are you changing your rates when you are here for gents you have seen before or the newbies who you have not? Why such a change for supposed "putting yourself in harms way". Like I have said before, if your concern was really getting caught or your risk per say, no monetary amount would be worth it. I guess your response is well I am trying to obtain a retainer for my legal fees if I do. Nah, your mind is not that good. You are trying to abuse the situation, period. Get the hell out of this state. We surely don't need you. Are you serious right now.  

Do you really think that if the wolves wanted you, an increase in your donation is going to keep them from getting you. Think about that. Shit, don't bother. Who cares about your simple mind. Why would anyone see you anyhow is what I am wondering. Guys, know when a childish mind is trying to fuck you over and force these people to be banned from this state. DO NOT SEE THEM. MAKE THEM STAY AWAY. Got to be kidding me. That much for you. Get the hell outta here with that.

you seem tense.  have you considered seeing an escort??

That's cute. Good job. No nut has ever been good enough for me to ignore that bullshit. Even though I must say, a recent engagement was out of of this motherfucking world. Now that lady, deserves a 100% hike in whatever she wants. Trust and believe. No PSE of any sort required I might add......yeah, think about that for a sec. Damn. Masterful. Just masterful.

 

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If they feel better charging more because of recent events to make it more worth their time, then so what. Thats their business, simple as that. Are we really going to get into yet another bitch fest about rates? If you don't like someones rates, move on to the next one. You act like you're a hobbyist, but to me, you type like a female. So you saw some outrageous rates, and you either can't afford them and are bittter, or you're an escort who can't justify a price increase and is bitter. Get over it.

Yes, a bitch fest is exactly what needs to be had. You are correct, it is their business and just so we are clear,  it is also my business to voice what the fuck I want. I act like who the fuck I am, a mfer tired of dumb-asses trying to take advantage of good people because they are too lazy to do what is needed to make themselves TRULY SAFER. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense you are talking.

Lateedah and skip around the rose bush on that

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Just curious. You're gonna have the resident cursing police on your ass. Anywhoooo, I agree that you need to get laid. Way too much anger going on. I've never heard of skipping around bushes, must be before my time. Seriously though, why do you care to the point of posting a crazy ass rant? You're just adding to the problem. But thank you, between your original post earlier, your response to me, and I'd venture to say your response to this... thanks for the entertainment! I'm going to now google dancing around plants so I know what generation I'm dealing with....

Pop goes the weasel...

I'll take you up on that Julia. But you know me. how about a 90 second instead of a 60 second.  With you thats about how long I last.  you know a starving man doesn't savour his meal, he quickly devours it.
 

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Don't worry man. I come and go! Lose interest. lol  

However, your free will to not click on a message I write would solve your problem now wouldn't it.

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Still trying to figure out the rose bush thing...actually trying to figure out why he got so bent out of shape.

Did someone he want to see have a rate hike? Is he talking about visiting ladies? I don't know many ladies based here that can just leave the state, LOL!

I don't think I've seen anyone rates go up 100% but I'm not out there looking.

I do get that there are those that will always take advantage of a situation, but why get all bent out shape? Just don't see her plain and simple.

xoxo,

Steph

1)Rose bush....any kind of bush.....doesn't matter......the way my comedic mind works.  
2)Bent out of shape?...I explained that in one of my posts. Don't enjoy people trying to take advantage of people in situations for greed purposes (or any kind of purpose) when its obvious its for greed purposes and NOTHING else.
3) No, it was not someone I wanted to see (just an ad I saw) but based on some other posts on this board about the same issue, its obvious that it has nothing to do with the current situation at hand recently but they indeed have the right to do what the hell they want . Never said I hope and def didn't mean if I did that they didn't have the right. Free will takes care of that. No shit sherlocks. Plus based on their reviews, website, pics, its just silly for them to try to pull off such a scam. But hey, it may indeed work.
4) Nope, no visiting ladies.
5) I said almost 100%.
6) Oh no worries, me wanting to see them was never an issue for me but my point still stands. Its bullshit.
7) And lastly, I didnt pull the rate hike for whom I was speaking out of my ass. It easily can be found. For now.

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I haven't seen any overly crazy rate increases. And the gals do have the right to set their rates. The biggest gripe I have with you're post is you're assumption of the intelligence level of the gals as a whole. Look on BP or some other low rate mall and yep you'll find gals that are weak or simple minded as you so eloquently put it. From my experiences here though most of the ladies are actually pretty intelligent and biz savvy. With more risk comes more reward I guess why ya think cocaine isn't cheaper?
I'll agree with ya doubling rates is a bit much, I'd move on and look elsewhere.  
As with any buisness folks are going to try and cash in on a perceived shortage or panic in a market. Just look at what gold and silver did a while back before the market corrected itself. I can only assume you are referring to touring ladies trying to swoop in and make a quick buck. That's just buisness savvy and it will correct itself, no need to berate our local gals with insults

"Get out of the state", "Banned from the state"...never said you pulled the rate increase out of your ass, I just hadn't seen anything drastic. Either their mail box will be overflowing and their phones ringing or they won't.

Now ya made me go and look at ads on TER.

Hmmmmmm.

xoxo,

Steph

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Yes, Girls can charge what they want , when they want ........

and the lack of demand for them in that market will chase them the fuck out........

If they are upcharging without improving or adding additional services then don't come anywhere near the state of GA

How about 'get the hell out of our state' generation ? Try googling that !!

I agree they have the right to raise their rates but if they don't add additional services with those rate hikes......then they can take a hike......elsewhere.

I'm not talking about doubling rates because of more perceived risk. But if a gal feels the need to hike rates 10% or so based on risk and other factors (transportation costs, hotel price increases etc) she is fully in her rights to do so. As for offering additional services not sure where to go with that one. When the grocery store goes up on a loaf of bread do you demand that they send a guy out to put in the toaster for ya?  

I do see both sides of the argument, if she feels the need to increase rates a bit fine, if I feel the increase is not what I'm willing to spend on a particular gal then I just move on. As for price gouging that will correct itself simple supply and demand.

and watch all of you that really can't afford this hobby cry even more?

 
Gents whining about rates are pathetic.

 
Here is a hint:

Go find a girl that looks like us to accept a dinner date from you.

Spend at least 200
Then, take her home
Go home, jack off wishing she invited you in
Then, invite her on another dinner date, spend another 200
Take her home
Go home, jack off wishing she invited you in
Then, invite her on another dinner date, spend another 200

Then at the end of dinner, you mention you would like to move things forward. She replies with "I'm sorry, I thought we were just friends".

600 bucks down the drain, and nothing. I think I'm going to increase my rate to 600 instead of 500. Ladies, wouldn't you like 600/hr? I would!

 
I mention 200 for a dinner date. Because most girls that are as gorgeous as most of us providers are, know it and are snobs and expect fine dining. 200 is kind of low, especially with a good bottle of wine btw.

 

Point is, don't cry because you can't afford it.

Guess what, I'm part time. My NC donation is going to 500/hr Sept 1st. Want to know something else? Whether someone books me or not is not going to make or break me.  

500 is what I feel I'm worth now, and if you want my mind, and body - that's the cost. Deal with it or book someone else.  

 
Not really a b.i.t.c.h here, but crying and whining about rates is useless, pathetic, and frankly pisses me off.

 

Jessica

Don't ever contact me.

I'm not a doctor but I played on on TV, looks like a severe case of Golden Vagina Syndrome to me.
Not to bust you're bubble but you are exactly what the OP was gripeing about. Now I can't price what you believe you're worth but I see a lot of lonely nights at 500 hr in this state. Good luck with that!!! You're not chopped liver but I wouldn't put you in the 500 hr category, and I can afford it.  

Ladies have the right to charge what ever they deem suitable but doubling ones rates is a good way to plan an early retirement.

Question: Why did you respond to the post? Lol. I mean damn and that’s what you responded with. You are playing right?  

Now let’s start with the one of your comments where you surely can’t be talking to me who is of course the OP here ………….

Can’t afford? Come on now sweetheart. Ok. Ill give you a slight break because a lot of men probably cannot but surely you are not talking to me. You have no idea how incorrect you are (not your fault, just your ignorance) but again, it so doesn't matter for me and sooooo not the reason for my post. I was talking to all men no matter money level first and foremost. However, I do not think most guys could afford on a regular basis (based on common sense), so yeah, you go to that market where my bank account easily resides (500 plus/hr) with the reviews you have, services you provide, the manner in which you currently provide the services you do give based on your reviews and see how it pans out my dear. Gods speed.  Listen very carefully little rabbit…..some of the most money conscious people in this world in relation to what they pay for, to what they get………are people you are targeting in that range and over. I should make you pay me for that last nugget of information but today, I will give it to you for free.

Your whole persona on this board and your post here just seems like you are upset that you cannot consistently get what you want in that range in this state. I would like proof that you can consistently get that in any state YOU go to but I digress. Well, move to New York, or Miami, or LA for gods sake. Gooooooood Luuuuuuuuck for Christ sake. Ill buy you a plane ticket tonight. You are trying to get more money for less effort without the diligence and professionalism of transforming what you provide as a whole and how you provide.  Again, good luck. It’s your right to try and you may surely succeed. Even though, I do not think you would have posted a lot of things you have including this post, if you truly thought you could without the entire market going there . But, whatever, go with that business model dear. God damn, I am even giving you wisdom here for how you might be able to pull that shit off. Listen and pay attention. Change some key parts of your business model which first involve changes with you in relation to the client and you might succeed. Others have tried to point you to the same truth on this thread. I might add that those changes DO NOT have to be unsafe.

You mentioned basically about the cost of dating outside of this world we play in.  True story for the most part but first of all, your example compared three ‘outside of this hobby’ dinner dates of being unsuccessful sexually to basically just coming to see you for a single,  1 hour date of 500.  Do you see anything missing in that example? I can’t even begin to explain the holes in that example. Just let me say this……of an hour “session” with you, how much of that “session” is spent having meaningful unrushed conversation, adult teasing, experiencing life (dinner, movie, a hike, a trip, etc. etc.) and then how much is spent kissing, touching, exploring and finally having relations without a condom? Now I do not know about other men, but I surely will spend more outside of this world for all the things I mentioned and knowing that if it works out or if I am married/attached, I will be able to spend unrushed time, enjoy many things in this life with this person and be able to make sweet love to that woman without a rubber if we both decide its right. Plus, please don’t respond to a post by me ever again, talking about, “Go find a girl that looks like us to accept a dinner date from you.”. You cannot be serious. There are indeed ‘some’ women in this world we play in, who can pull that statement off but you my dear are not one of them. By all and any means…..Please, please get a clue on that one.  
 
Finally my dear, for the thousandth time…… Do what you want with regards to your rates. IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION YOUR RIGHT. STOP WITH THAT PLEASE. ITS SILLY. IT IS ALSO ANYONE ELSES RIGHT TO NOT LIKE IT AND VOICE IT to other consumers and the “market” as a whole.  Congress is not worried about you down here lol. I have a shocker for you…..you are in what is called a Free Market. Which not only means you can set your price at what you want but it also means the consumer market can call bullshit on it and voice it if they see it happening in comparison to where the market economy stands.

Funniest thing of your post was when you wrote....."if you want my mind". Lmao at you kid. There are a lot of women's minds to be enjoyed for sure. Based on your reviews and your posts, I am going to take a leap to say.....you just may not be one of them but that's ok.

Let me finish by saying well, pissy piss piss. I don’t give a fuck miss. Would you like some tissue paper for that piss that just trickled down your leg? I mean, what. Makes you pissed? I know, you are so much more deserving than a lot of other ladies here with way better personas , business models and practices I suppose right? Ok, prove it! And stop calling on the ladies unless you are calling on the ones on your level of professionalism. There are for sure ladies in this state and beyond that could ask for more based on the experiences they provide, the enthusiasm and professionalism in which they provide them but are you one of them? Well, leap and find out

And seriously, may peace be with you. Still, don't know why you responded to the post the way you responded to the post if you were so confident in your change of a business strategy. I hope you find some suckers sweetheart

Is it your mind and body, or your time? I'm unclear. Is it because of relocating and coming back because of the law or not, which you did not mention in your response to this post but did in your ad. I mean do you kind of see how you are allllllll over the place on the reason(s) you were giving to the gents as to your rate hike. The funny thing is, you don't need a valid reason to increase your rates in a free market but as I sincerely hope you know, you need a valid reason so that clients will be convinced its ok, now don't you.

I think I finally get what is up with you and your frustrations about the state where you reside not being at a certain average level of hobbying pricing........you are not truly an independent provider are you?  

Gosh darn it, where is Matlock when you need him.

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That not long ago it was YOU bitching about rates here in NC.  Yes, I recall you publicly wondering why rates here were half that of NYC... now that a client bitches about rates, you call him pathetic and say how it pisses you off?

Interesting.

If you accidentally ask someone out as charming as this girl, you're stuck with her for hours as she hoovers through the entire menu... The money isn't that much, but you'll never gets those hours of your life back.

At a coffeeshop, you can break it off quickly and cut your losses early.

As for the hobby, charge whatever you want, knock yourself out.

but hobbyists in the Carolinas have it easy. The girls here are very inexpensive and honestly it's about time they started charging what women in other parts of the country are charging. Do you even think about the overhead? After we've paid for advertising, memberships to boards, website building and hosting, photographers, makeup, 4 star hotels (thanks to everything that's been going on), condoms, massage oil, wine, mouthwash, lingerie, candles and lube there's not a lot left for us to take home off of a low volume 300 an hour. Not to mention the other expenses that occur frequently... like the constant doctors appointments for yeast infections, BV, UTIs, bladder infections, flus, colds, etc. All of which we get from hobbyists.

Hello. If you are telling me that all providers by any means have all those expenses, you are very mistaken. Most are not paying high dollar for their photographs and any cost from that is usually a one time cost or at most for the ones that do update more than others, a biannual or yearly cost. Too many do not update their pics. I have seen a lot of websites and most do not use professional pics. Makeup?  You put on makeup everyday don't you? Ok then. Maybe you have to reapply a few times more, again, fraction of your cost. If you want to go with that...ok. Donations deserve maybe a 2% increase per client. 4 star hotels? Ok, but again, the average provider is not staying at a 4 star hotel but to the minority that is...... I will say thank you . And even after all of this that's going on, the majority will still not be staying at four star hotels. Additionally, if you are a provider staying at a four-star hotels and you are not a part of their rewards programs, you are the one shorting yourself. Do not blame clients. Many  discounted nights and eventually free nights can easily be had and if you do not go that route, might I suggest sites like priceline and such. Give me a break. I travel for a living. Deals are to be had. Find them.

Condoms? Again pass. Not a fraction of your monthly profit. Massage oil.....im laughing at you on that. Maybe 2% of the total are buying massage oil. Wine? laughing at you again. The majority of providers are not buying wine for the gents. There are exceptions to that but again, not the majority and you know it. Same goes for candles and special lingerie. You are acting like all these things are bought by the average provider out there and some of the ones that are, are not everyday expenses . That's a LIE, so stop lying or just know your competitors better. lol.

AND I have traveled most of this country and the average rate for a provider is around 300 to 350. Again, let me slow this down....the AVERAGE. The only places and again the only places where the average is more, is those places where the cost of living is higher. Its simple economics.

And with all due respect, before writing such a response to my post, do your homework and understand what I fully said. There are a set of providers based on their effort, their personality, their beauty (very well kept in all manners), their professionalism (knowing that every clients time and money is to be respected greatly as long as the client respects them) that are worth more than the average. Without question, but the type of provider of whom I was speaking, is definitely not in that class of providers and knows it. Those type of providers do not even deserve the average in my opinion because they do not respect every gentleman that comes to them in a respectable manner and is thus proven by too many of their reviews. So how dare them use lies and bullshit excuses to try to basically fuck over the gents that do come see them. And to try to use the environment here in NC, for their own agenda of getting more "per hour". Its childish, irresponsible and damn close to criminal in my mind.

Have a nice life!

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Just thinking here, but a lot of screeners may have split as that's where the felony has come in. This means a lot more time booking, screening, answering emails, and advertising for the ladies. Just a thought...

Then again, if they're doing it themselves, they aren't paying screeners...

Well, that was completely pointless, but ... whoopsie! I'm pressing post now.