I have been a VIP client of Sexy by Raven service for a long time. Two recent very malicious reviews of SBR models have come to my attention - Monica Minx and now Natalia Miles, both providers for that service. If you read each review carefully the reviews use identcal language, I mean it's the same freakin' review, only the names have been changed. Does this s*** happen to other providers, I mean just plain malicious reviews done out of spite or sick sense of humor? How does a provider get an ugly, lying review removed from TER?
Thanks for letting me spout off. Signed, a very satisfied VIP client of Sexy by Raven.
They get free 15 days for the review to start with. Then there is some that like to blast the competition. There are 2 things the provider can do, one is PM the reviewer and ask them to remove it and the other is to report it as a problem to ter. But a review isnt enough to make or break a provider that has a fair amout of reviews. But I am sure it will piss her off to no end.
I sometimes think if TER allowed the lady to comment on each review it would be helpful. Not only for her but for the guys also. But that could open a whole nother can of worms.
I know of several independents who have been hit with them.
I always look at the reviewer's history to try to figure out why he posted the review. Sometimes the guy is just a 'hard rater'. Sometimes he didn't get what he wanted so is taking revenge. Its usually pretty easy to figure out. Reviews by 'first reviewers' that are vengeful I automatically ignore.
As far as getting the reviews removed. Some ladies have been sucessful but not all. If the review is obviously a blatant lie its a lot easier to get it pulled.
As to why you are so concerned on the level that you are, especially since it doesn't concern you (or I'm assuming so)
That sends up more red flaga for me than a few bad reviews
And as I've said before....most hobbyists can see through BS.
why are you so interested in his review ? Are you surprised by his comment that the girls picture was better than what opened the door ?
I find that a LOT of reviews posted of providers I have seen (& yes, I haven't posted reviews on everyone I have seen), that the reviewer must have eye problems, as the pic's don't come close to what opens the door. For me, that is an issue.
Marie, A guy that rebuffed my review only did so because she would not repeat the performance for him. He slams all the girls he sees under different names because he doesn't want them to see anybody but him.
Shouldn't they be getting the word out? Seems you guys are more concerned than they are.
More red flags
Not to mention....
So this guy thinks he is going to win these girls over by writing them bad reviews. I'm sure they will not only want to see him again but also see him and only him. Oh yes! that makes total sense *sacasm*
I think the first review on Monica was for the wrong person as Monica is not European. I believe the new review on Natalia is indeed the same review but now posted for the correct provider. If the review on Monica hasn't been removed then that is an issue Raven should address.
This should be less dramatic for all parties. Drama creates stress and I for one just enjoy the time spent together. Why stress urself over info u cannot control?
I looked at his reviews, looks like he is a tough reviewer. I think a lot of providers, including myself, have that token horrible review. Some hobbyists are just like that I guess.
Thank you all for your insightful comments. I was a little miffed when I read the reviewers first review, but when I saw the second using identical language but only changing the name of the provider, I figured this guy was on some kind of tear and maybe bent on revenge for whatever. I think if a provider gives poor service then she has only herself to blame if her reviewer gives her a less than stellar review. Perhaps I overreacted in this case, but for cryin' out loud, at least get the identity of the provider you're dissing correct the first go round.
That's all I have to say about this matter.
People need to know that what a provider does for you is not a guarantee that she will do the same with someone else.
....for pretty much anyone to get whatever they feel like posted. Good/bad/mediocre reviews other providers can write them, so can other agencies, etc. I have 2 fakes and 1 spiteful review I'll likely never get removed. Only twice have I gotten 2 removed (both mentioned services I do not do amongst other things) but even when them being obvious glaring fakes I had to fight tooth & nail to get them removed. I know of many cases also where other providers i'm familiar with have a few sitting on their account too that staff refused to remove. Oh and the 2 fakes I did get removed one of them was actually very good as far as details and scoring so for anyone who thinks oh a provider is just trying to get a bad review removed because it's bad and not fake is double dead wrong.
The best you can do is as unemotionally as possible detail everything that's wrong with the fake or spiteful review point by point and as detailed as possible and wait. I've seen some ladies present staff with every shred of evidence they possibly could have and for w/e reason staff still let it stand. IMO it's not only too easy for fake or malicious reviews to be written AND approved, it's also usually pretty hard to fight them and the guys who write fakes or malicious reviews KNOW IT. I've read the burden of proof is on the review but it's not at all....somehow it falls on the provider.
I have noticed some "not as good as previous" reviews for a number of SBR girls, not just these 2.
I don't use the agency but may in the future. I take it with a grain of salt, 1 or 2 so-so reviews are not as important as the overall reviews of the last 6 months or so.
If a review is very high or very low I do look at the reviewer to see if that is normal for them. Bottom line if you are happy with them then see them again. While it may piss you off, don't worry about thier reviews, if they think they are unfair then the girl or agency should do something about it.
Life is like a box of chocolates...............
For starters it is just disappointing there are dipwads and scumbags and people who seem to thrive on doing random acts of unkindness. Why? All we got is each other and none of us are getting out of this situation alive. Cooperate, be good to each other, DUH!!!!!!!!!!
Really hate there are wonderful women out there busting their tails off and for whatever reason and there are disturbed fellas out there that post stuff about said ladies that do not accurately represent said ladies and their job and if you will, their performance.
On the flip side there are providers out there that act poorly and demonstrate a deep disturbance with their choice of decisions and actions or inactions. So it goes bothways.
In a perfect world all women would have a full menu, give free appointments or at least buy three get one free and feel a genuine chemistry and the gents would be completely respectful and donate triple and be a dedicated regular, discreetly, right?
That is not what we are dealing with. I have been hobbying for a while now and I have had the greatest experiences, and I have had a couple pretty bad. I have had a provider lie and put my real name on a blacklist that I have no recourse to have removed. Will say in the whole time I have hobbied that is the one and only negative response I have ever gotten so take it for what it is worth. Think it is 9 whitelist approvals and one negative, you do the math.
So I would say for the gals, I know what it feels like to have something posted somewhere about you not true and you can't do anything about it. I feel your pain cause I have had some of my own. It blows.
So what can one do? Just take it with a grain of salt and move on. I have used this site over the years to find my way to the greatest gals on earth. Ok a little over the top but I have said before I consider myself the luckiest guy in the hobby and still feel that way. I have had the pleasure of being allowed to spend time and companionship with a great great great group of women. I have seriously overacheived, trust me. That has happened mostly because I have used this site to narrow down who I would like to see and who I would take a pass on.
Just want the gals to know that pretty much one or two reviews that are different than the others can easily be discounted. There is always for whatever reason something that doesn't quite click. Then there are people who just act poorly but it really says more about them than the words the review is trying to portray.
So just saying until everyone decides to "man up" and in the case of the women, what, "women up", and act like human beings we are all just going to have to accept we have to take the good with the bad and carry on.
Since this is the situation we find ourselves in we have to look for consistency to help guide our decisions. I guess I should say one way to go about it it to look for consistency to help us. If a gal has 10 reviews and they are all bad and they dashed with the cash 9 times and one review was stellar......probably ok to put that gal on "the pass" list. If a guy write the same review for different gals then the guys ought to ignore him and the gals might not want to book appointments with him.
One good thing about human beings is over time they will eventually show their true colors. So keep a watchful eye and just avoid the undesirables.
Anyway, time to get on with my day. To all the good folks out there, thanks and for the bad people, hope one day you realize it feels better to treat people with kindness and respect. Mean people and bad behavior SUCKS! Booo....Boooooo!!!!!!!!!!
I Concur!
Shifterp OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
While I am normally based in SC, business will have me in the Triad later in August. I am certainly glad I read this board. Nothing like valuable intel. Thank you all very much!!!