It just became illegal to advertise in NC. Leo can also trace phones, so expect email only.

It's true, SBR is pulling all of their girls out of NC.  New law passed August 1st and they got first hand knowledge of it.  There isn't a link yet because it's so new.

Here a link to an article with the headline "N.C. Senate OKs bill to rewrite prostitution laws" from the StarNews out of Wilmington. http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20130724/ARTICLES/130729805?p=1&tc=pg

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/Senate/PDF/S683v0.pdf

The law you are referring to has hopes of combatting sex trafficking and abuse of minors.
It targets pimps. It does not make "advertising" a felony.

"Using the Internet, including any social media Web site, to solicit another for the purpose of prostitution."

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perhaps do some research first? First of all when was it ever really not illegal to be doing this in NC or anywhere else? Everyone should ALWAYS be careful. According to Hickory new articles, some random Backpage girls seemed to have been operating out of some high traffic location, which is probably where the tip came in. Thats usually how it happens. And the new law cracks down on trafficking mostly. Google new prostitution laws in NC. And actually read up on it. And keep things in perspective. No good is going to come from freaking everyone out. Thats what they want. Are you living in the 5th century or something? LE can trace or check out whatever they want to. Thats nothing new. Seriously, people. I'm not at all trying to downplay anything, seriously. But this is nothing new, and everyone needs to properly imform themselves, and if you're going to be involved in this business, whether a provider or hobbyist, be aware of whats going on around you and we all make our own decision to do this. Agencies are busted all the time, girls are busted all the time. Careful girls are busted. Guys are busted. Its just how it is. Freaking everyone out and posting ignorant statements doesn't do anyone any good.

See especially 14-203.3 and 14-203.6. Both appear to make solicitation and patronizing a Class F felony.  

WTF?

to stone age. Enjoy

Is NC instituting Sharia Law. This is what Taliban calls sharia law. Soon, women will not be allowed to go out without their husband or a male family member present.

How did you interpret that from the post?  

I don’t about the past laws but this one is definitely passed in 2013 Legislative Session which makes it a new legislation on the books.

...f***in religion outta' f***in politics"

stating a fact Doll! Sad truth but even more sad that you couldn't respond with tact instead of cursing.  
The Southern Belle in me says, "Bless your Sweet Heart"!  

Posted By: Courtney.ova

...f***in religion outta' f***in politics"  
   
 Quote from friend just now

Shut the fuck up. Tact? Really. A curse word is just that, a motherfucking word. Has no additional power over another word unless YOU as a dumb human gives it power. Fucking idiot.

does it make it more likely I can play out my Serpico fantasy?

It unfortunately will never happen Court. Its a complicated topic that most people just will never completely understand all the parts that make it so but as long as politics are filled with humans (other alternative, robots, lol), then religion or some belief structure will be involved. Someone will always think their belief structure or religion is the most powerful and try to make all of us live by it or as many as they can. Nothing but fools. Fuck em. They will never hold me down

You are condemning her for cursing. Honestly when the image of a demure, proper Southen Belle is mentioned, you are the last person who would enter my mind. Now if i were asked about the sterotypical hooker that most of the world thinks of, that would be you, low class, honestly not that hot etc etc. Every post you make is basically an advertisment WTF? Before you jump a lady for cursing you do realize that you suck cock for money right? I took you're post as just another sad cry for attention, ease up already!!!

I'm moving, as well as a few other girls I know. SBR is also pulling out of NC, according to them.  

unless I'm seeing a diff post, courtneys post said f*****. Some people just have to start drama to make themselves look better. when all it does is make them look like a petty, catty b****. See what I did there?

Unfortunately it will be used to try and get felony conviction from Indies as well. And if LE targets you they can reach out and touch you no matter who you are.

Goes back to the assignation thing. I guess now that would be a felony as well now. And the price of a good lawyer to represent for a felony is higher so IMO the only one who wins is the lawyers.

Just how I see it.

xoxo,

Steph

they always seem to bust a lot of older indys at the same time.

I do believe SBR fines their girls for being late, and other issues. Hence,  agency. Since this bill gives leo more ammunition to combat pimps (agency is a pimp in the eyes of the law), raven has revamped her business model.  

...adultery with someone is considered prostitution. Crazy

Regardless of whether or not a minor or pimp is involved...

of three men who answered BP ads and were charged with felonies.

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provider rate increase. I am still laughing about that. Wonder who that could have come from? Hmm. Let me think for a sec. Ok, got it in under a sec. Cracks me up. Just saying. laladadaheheheWTHsherlock.  
 
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The Good--
This makes it easier to go after traffickers and pimps, and increases the penalty for said offenses, while offering some additional protections to underage victims.  I think all here agree that Human Trafficking needs to be stamped out!  This part we should applaud!  

I'm an escort, not a prostitute. Prove otherwise.

being forced into the sex industry was used right out of the gate for another purpose.

As I understand it, yes. The backers of the bill pushed the idea that it is the entire industry that is at fault and that in order to stop underage sex-slavery, penalties across the board needed to be increased (except on the minor victims: that bit is a good thing) especially on the pimps and even the johns... Right or wrong, it is logical... Whenever the far right and far left get together look out...

Those who follow Kim Komando, and who now reports that BackPage was where the child trafficking took place, and, I'm guessing here, was the root of this well-meaning law that went overboard by a mile!!!

A lot of people on these boards seem to be confused about the legal definition of a pimp or a panderer. When I refer to someone as a pimp, I'm talking about a man who takes ALL of the money made by a working-girl and often emotionally and/or physically abuses her in an attempt to maintain control over her. But the technical definition is MUCH broader! 
 
panderer 
noun 
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp. 
2. a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others. 
3. a go-between in amorous intrigues.  
 
ALL agency owners are legally considered panderers. ALL bookers are legally considered panderers. Do you have a double's partner who you occasionally arrange to have meet with you and one of your regulars? THEN LEGALLY YOU ARE CONSIDERED A PANDERER. If caught in NC, all of these individuals are now viewed as sex offenders, the same as rapists, child molesters et al. 

Driving rates down? NC is one of the lowest rates to see a provider because its one of the top 10 where providers are. Which mean more to choose. Providers risk is increased, therefore rates go up. Plain logic is usually the hardest to understand.

Posted By: Anti-Alias

The Good--  
 This makes it easier to go after traffickers and pimps, and increases the penalty for said offenses, while offering some additional protections to underage victims.  I think all here agree that Human Trafficking needs to be stamped out!  This part we should applaud!    
   
 The Bad--  
 In spite of the good above, they have also chosen to increase the penalty for conviction of other prostitution offenses.  Engaging in sex with a prostitute is now a felony.  Bad news for the guys!  But you STILL have to be convicted!  And, upon the second offense, solicitation of prostitution becomes a felony.  So trouble for the ladies as well.  But again, you have to be convicted!  The price for a good lawyer just went up, however, with the increase in potential penalty.  Regardless of the main intent, it will probably draw additional attention to EVERYONE for a while.  
   
 The Ugly--  
 ALL of the uninformed and poorly thought out reactions here, especially including the OP which does nothing more than incite panic and paranoia, through ill-advised generalizations, with no clarification or supportive basis.  LE has always been able to trace phones, with cause, when they chose.  Smart ladies have always blurred or hidden their faces.  And, the risk for both providers and Johns has increased, but more so for Johns, so by that logic, it should drive rates down  Don't see it changing much either way.  As for advertising, BP is probably going to become increasingly dangerous, but that was already happening, right?  
   
 Still, good safe practices (research and screening, along with discretion) will continue to serve us well.  So, no cause for widespread Panic!  Just stay smart, and stay safe!  
   
 

Most low rate girls on BP are being pimped out. Shame to all who visit them and keep the circle going.

I just looked it up and many of the felonies are decreased to misdemeanors in the version ratified and now signed into law.  I haven't read the whole thing but it appears as if johns and ladies would remain a misdemeanor for the most part.

Have 2 only that I see that are very careful and under the radar. Not worried, they pulled their advertising weeks ago. Yes it may limit me from looking for new opportunities. But what do I care.... I already found my ATF's and will continue one regardless.

So shut down backpage and eros and bigdaddy, whatever. then the same thing moves to dating sites like match.com and everything else. what will you do then? Duh, it's a date, dating site, you guys are retarded. Pushing it to dating sites, really?. That makes it even more convenient...

the industry will improvise, adapt, and overcome. Did the war on drugs win? No. Did the war on terrorism win? no. Did Hitler exterminate the Jews? No... just a speedbump in the road

if you are advertising on backpage, or seeing women off of backpage then you are bottom of the barrel. Seriously, quit that shit. I know this will offend a few people, but seriously... advertising on backpage? Might as well walk down the street. Hell, walk over to a Days Inn and knock on doors. You might get lucky. BP is dirt, and dirt clients. If that's the target then oh well.  

One-sided logic is what's hard to understand.  First, I wasn't making judgment on what rates are!!  I agree they are very reasonable in NC and NOT saying they SHOULD be lower!  Just applying your own plain logic, which obviously you are not totally clear on.  You said in OP "The Providers risk has skyrocketed and so will there rates".  This inflammatory statement has no bearing, because as you point out in your comment above "NC is one of the lowest rates to see a provider because its one of the top 10 where providers are" which clearly implies that rates are more affected by market saturation than by risk factor, if you buy that assumption.  However, if one follows your previous "plain logic", the risk has increased on BOTH sides, in case you hadn't noticed.  So consider this alternative... If Johns now risk felony charges (second offense, now in ratified bill) instead of just public embarrassment, as was often the case previously, they may be less likely to risk playing.  If less Johns play, plain logic would imply that rates would go down, to attract more business from those who are playing.  Of course that is overly simplified, because there are many other factors, and who really knows how this will all play out.  It may certainly lead to providers retiring or going UTR, or even relocating, as you point out, and that COULD affect market saturation, and possibly prices.  So, don't get your panties in a wad
 

Posted By: hehehahalaladada

Driving rates down? NC is one of the lowest rates to see a provider because its one of the top 10 where providers are. Which mean more to choose. Providers risk is increased, therefore rates go up. Plain logic is usually the hardest to understand.  
   
 I'm sure we will see a lot of providers going UTR or retiring.  
   

Posted By: Anti-Alias

The Good--  
  This makes it easier to go after traffickers and pimps, and increases the penalty for said offenses, while offering some additional protections to underage victims.  I think all here agree that Human Trafficking needs to be stamped out!  This part we should applaud!    
     
  The Bad--  
  In spite of the good above, they have also chosen to increase the penalty for conviction of other prostitution offenses.  Engaging in sex with a prostitute is now a felony.  Bad news for the guys!  But you STILL have to be convicted!  And, upon the second offense, solicitation of prostitution becomes a felony.  So trouble for the ladies as well.  But again, you have to be convicted!  The price for a good lawyer just went up, however, with the increase in potential penalty.  Regardless of the main intent, it will probably draw additional attention to EVERYONE for a while.  
     
  The Ugly--  
  ALL of the uninformed and poorly thought out reactions here, especially including the OP which does nothing more than incite panic and paranoia, through ill-advised generalizations, with no clarification or supportive basis.  LE has always been able to trace phones, with cause, when they chose.  Smart ladies have always blurred or hidden their faces.  And, the risk for both providers and Johns has increased, but more so for Johns, so by that logic, it should drive rates down  Don't see it changing much either way.  As for advertising, BP is probably going to become increasingly dangerous, but that was already happening, right?  
     
  Still, good safe practices (research and screening, along with discretion) will continue to serve us well.  So, no cause for widespread Panic!  Just stay smart, and stay safe!  
     
 

In La. if you are caught with a provider, you have to register as a sex offender. Yeppers.

From what I read, the final bill keeps prostitution (as defined) & johns as misdemeanor charges. To me, the most interesting part of the new/old law is a bj is charged as a "crime against nature" which in a felony. WTF

Or did the changes only apply to providers, but not their clients? I'm a little unclear on this...

-- Modified on 8/4/2013 8:06:17 PM

The new part is that now it's a felony charge.

Steph

I'll tell you what, if I'm risking a felony, you are going to pay out the ass buddy.  

Posted By: Anti-Alias

One-sided logic is what's hard to understand.  First, I wasn't making judgment on what rates are!!  I agree they are very reasonable in NC and NOT saying they SHOULD be lower!  Just applying your own plain logic, which obviously you are not totally clear on.  You said in OP "The Providers risk has skyrocketed and so will there rates".  This inflammatory statement has no bearing, because as you point out in your comment above "NC is one of the lowest rates to see a provider because its one of the top 10 where providers are" which clearly implies that rates are more affected by market saturation than by risk factor, if you buy that assumption.  However, if one follows your previous "plain logic", the risk has increased on BOTH sides, in case you hadn't noticed.  So consider this alternative... If Johns now risk felony charges (second offense, now in ratified bill) instead of just public embarrassment, as was often the case previously, they may be less likely to risk playing.  If less Johns play, plain logic would imply that rates would go down, to attract more business from those who are playing.  Of course that is overly simplified, because there are many other factors, and who really knows how this will all play out.  It may certainly lead to providers retiring or going UTR, or even relocating, as you point out, and that COULD affect market saturation, and possibly prices.  So, don't get your panties in a wad  
   
   

Posted By: hehehahalaladada

Driving rates down? NC is one of the lowest rates to see a provider because its one of the top 10 where providers are. Which mean more to choose. Providers risk is increased, therefore rates go up. Plain logic is usually the hardest to understand.  
     
  I'm sure we will see a lot of providers going UTR or retiring.  
     

Posted By: Anti-Alias

The Good--    
   This makes it easier to go after traffickers and pimps, and increases the penalty for said offenses, while offering some additional protections to underage victims.  I think all here agree that Human Trafficking needs to be stamped out!  This part we should applaud!      
       
   The Bad--    
   In spite of the good above, they have also chosen to increase the penalty for conviction of other prostitution offenses.  Engaging in sex with a prostitute is now a felony.  Bad news for the guys!  But you STILL have to be convicted!  And, upon the second offense, solicitation of prostitution becomes a felony.  So trouble for the ladies as well.  But again, you have to be convicted!  The price for a good lawyer just went up, however, with the increase in potential penalty.  Regardless of the main intent, it will probably draw additional attention to EVERYONE for a while.    
       
   The Ugly--    
   ALL of the uninformed and poorly thought out reactions here, especially including the OP which does nothing more than incite panic and paranoia, through ill-advised generalizations, with no clarification or supportive basis.  LE has always been able to trace phones, with cause, when they chose.  Smart ladies have always blurred or hidden their faces.  And, the risk for both providers and Johns has increased, but more so for Johns, so by that logic, it should drive rates down  Don't see it changing much either way.  As for advertising, BP is probably going to become increasingly dangerous, but that was already happening, right?    
       
   Still, good safe practices (research and screening, along with discretion) will continue to serve us well.  So, no cause for widespread Panic!  Just stay smart, and stay safe!    
       
   

Exactly. We KNOW that they don't follow the laws, or use them how they were intended. Why risk it? They've already started. We've already seen what this law is really about.  

Now that's a powerful statement you just wrote.  

That law was changed 2 years ago, the provider and client could now charged with a misdemeanor and are not required to register as a sex offender.

Why would I "pay out the ass" if I am risking felony also??  

The risk thing, ok. Well, I tell you this, for a felony, your rates better go up by 20,000% for it to be "worth it". If the risk is truly a probable one. And your economies of scale is way off on the rates for NC. Based on what you said, places like Las Vegas, LA, Miami, NY would have the lowest rates as well. They do not because of the price of staying in those places for providers for one, thus raising the competitive rate scale of other providers in those places. Again, "IQ master", the main reason NC is lower and will stay lower than DC, LA, Las Vegas, Miami, NY is because the cost of travel in those places are much higher and that difference will never change.

So damn sexy I must say. A woman with a fine-toothed comb. Damn, all I can imagine right now is you at your computer wearing glasses (dont know why I see glasses but oh well) and reading the hell out of that bill. Have never met you but that's just fucking sexy.

-- Modified on 8/4/2013 2:22:45 PM

Do a search on this board and the GD board under my name and let me know how many tactful, useful threads and responses I've made. You'll have plenty of positive things to say.  

I was thinking the same thing but then thought to myself that a smart provider would say I suppose, that they are risking themselves more often than their clients. Still, too much of hike and it wont fly in this state. The ceiling rate men are willing to pay will always be tied to their wallets here. No way to escape it. The only way a provider would be able to get away with a tremendous hike (over 400-450 basically), is if there was a statewide increase in salaries for most industries here. Aint happening JACK! I would like to see some providers try for the 400 ceiling and see how long it lasts. Shit 350 here and you better be coming with something extra special and I mean extra!

I'm really sad and am gonna miss you guys here... I hope laws change and this becomes an elite profession

Great point.  Although I do think it serves as an important reminder to how important thorough screening really is.  I've been to Raleigh and only saw gents that were whitelisted on TER or okay'd on Date-Check or P411.

who said anything about pushing the business to dating sites, lol. If you were talking about my message then you misunderstood obviously but that's ok. I was talking about going to dating sites to find your extra fun. Wow. You took that one to the deep end didn't you?!

-- Modified on 8/4/2013 3:35:01 PM

I did read your post, you just clearly don't have any sort of reading comprehension, or understanding of the world around you.

War on drugs put a lot of people in jail who don't belong there, the war on terrorism has for sure drifted over to american lives illegally and hitler didn't exterminate ALL the jews but he unfortunately, killed WAY too many. Not a good argument dude. I wouldn't associate the Holocaust to a speed bump. Seriously ignorant.

So many of the Florida ladies TOUR out of state to make big money. there are plenty of hot ladies charging $250-$300 in Miami. And there are some charging more.  Places like DC,and Boston and NYC the ladies for the most part can get a higher donation because the hotel rates are crazy high.

Steph

I think that NC is about to see a lot of backlash from this.

I'm not sure how closely you can compare a price based purely on the cost of doing business, vs price based on increased risk. I'm not aware of these kinds of laws in those areas? Are there?

And as for reading comprehension, you've already answered that with regard to yourself.  Or, maybe it is just short attention span.  I NEVER said that I "think girls will lower their rates"  nor have I advocated that, in any post ever!  As a matter of fact, I specifically said that I was "NOT saying they SHOULD be lower!" in one post, in an obviously failed effort to avoid this misunderstanding.  I WAS, from the beginning as far as rates go, making a tongue in cheek statement regarding the Original Posters rant about increased risk driving rates higher.  I simply said that by "that logic" the reverse could also apply.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander, kind of thing.  I responded the way I did to your jackass "you are going to pay out the ass buddy" post, simply because your dander was up against the wrong guy, lol.  

Yep, I cursed- ever since this posted I have said "fuck" several times! There is a harsh new reality coming & if you think because you're an indie, screening thoroughly, or because you avoid Bp that you are safe, you better think again! And yes, I too, have read EVERY word of the ratified bill (more than once). They no longer need to get into your room or get you in theirs, simply advertising is now grounds for arrest.  

because they are including the crimes against nature charge.  So the law may technically say it's still a misdemeanor but the reality is different.  How many appointments don't include oral sex?  Ummm.....virtually none.  I think in all the time that Natasha has existed I've had a total of 2 clients say that they don't like it.

-- Modified on 8/5/2013 8:47:59 AM

police and prosecutors could essentially target those they considered sexually deviant and charge them with "Crimes Against Nature" which is a FELONY. In practice, the majority sentenced under the law were women of color, including trans women of color. They had to register as SEX OFFENDERS, had the words “SEX OFFENDER” printed on their ID, and had to inform their neighbors about the conviction.

I watched SEVERAL professionals have to register as sex offenders just for being caught with a hooker. That was back in 2008, and I just assumed nothing had changed since then as far as having to do that.

I love seeing the word "classy" on a HOOKER website lol. Just saying. I curse like a Sailor on TER, but not in person. This is afterall, a FK BOARD. It amazes me how someone can swallow a nut, then be shy about profanity lol. Next...

-- Modified on 8/5/2013 11:23:32 AM

fireflies. Meant to be looked at, then ignored & other business seen to.

It seems to me that most ads aren't descriptive enough for you gals to get charged with anything. However, some of your websites are very descriptive...those are the ones I would worry about. Just a thought & for full disclosure, I'm not an attorney, just a knucklehead!

That has been a possibility all along, as the crimes against nature law has been on the books, along with others from the dark ages, since long before this new law was signed.  It speaks more to the current climate and the conservative administration in the state and in many locales.  Local DAs determine what charges to bring, after someone is arrested.  Hoopla over the newly written law and continued press about trafficking and minors has increased the focus, and thus the risk for all of us.  Still, I believe oral sex has to be proven, so it has to be performed or discussed in some way that could be used as evidence, meaning with LE or someone who will agree to be a witness.  I believe they can also use your ads and/or website as evidence if mention of your services are included.

I am thinking in the more intense counties (which there are plenty of), the wording off an ad is not going to be of huge significance BUT the implication is what may end up biting the arse. I do think the more graphic ads will get hit as low-lying fruit. The survival of the fittest comes to mind, the weak will not survive

Now look at yuz....being all paranoid and all.  Well, forget it! ain't enough room for you all on the bandwagon.

is soon be be illegal ................

I'm going to get both while it's legal...assuming your serious, otherwise, I'll still get it, it will just be illegal (unless I can hook up with my 15 year old cousin, either the male or female)! or is that only in West Virginia, I forget.

I think with careful screening, which I would think most girls here on this site do, would greatly reduce the chances of getting busted.  While the law has broadened the boundaries, the question is who is going to be targeted.  Pimps, Agencies, & probably BP underage.  The idea that the police department is adding more officers to the vice squad because of this law isn't happening.  Nor do I think the city attorneys are going to make law a new priority.  

You do realize your constantly in arguments with people because your posts almost always include an "intelligent" dis on whoever your responding too

Gotta admit the state isn't being ran the best. But it was already fucked up by our liberal democrat government. Of course the guy who is involved in this hobby is griping about liberals. I'll admit that's pretty funny. Lets just say I'm a libertarian less government involvement the better. That being said I think you're and my views on gun laws and how to handle the social issue of gun control differ. More restrictive gun laws are not the answer just the same as stricter laws on this lifestyle aren't the answer either.

Let me expand on that last rant.

What do think is going to happen with DA who wants make name for him/herself?

I grew up in Orlando.  For the first 20 years of my life, I never once saw a single gun (other than a BB gun).  I didn't know anything about them, other than that I thought they were very, very bad.  Then at age 20 I moved to West Virginia.  In November.  Until that day, I could not have told you when hunting season was.  Man, I learned fast.  My second day there I woke up to the sound of gun shots at 5:00am and it scared the bejesus out of me.  Then I drove down the street and saw deer hanging from trees.  Then neighbors starting coming over, asking if we wanted any deer meat or jerky.  And I saw that literally almost every other house I walked into had prominently displayed gun racks.  It's a part of the culture, and a very important way of feeding a great many of the residents there.  I lived in WV for almost 8 years, and by the time I left, my views on guns had changed dramatically.  So I can forgive this legislature's loosening of the gun laws.

Most are located overseas where such sites perfectly legal.

§ 14-203.  Definition of terms.
The term "prostitution" shall be construed to include the offering or receiving of the body for sexual intercourse for hire, and shall also be construed to include the offering or receiving of the body for indiscriminate sexual intercourse without hire. The term "assignation" shall be construed to include the making of any appointment or engagement for prostitution or any act in furtherance of such appointment or engagement.
The following definitions apply in this Article:
(1)        Advance prostitution. - The term includes all of the following:
a.         Soliciting for a prostitute by performing any of the following acts when acting as other than a prostitute or a patron of a prostitute:
1.         Soliciting another for the purpose of prostitution.
2.         Arranging or offering to arrange a meeting of persons for the purpose of prostitution.
3.         Directing another to a place knowing the direction is for the purpose of prostitution.
4.         Using the Internet, including any social media Web site, to solicit another for the purpose of prostitution.
b.         Keeping a place of prostitution by controlling or exercising control over the use of any place that could offer seclusion or shelter for the practice of prostitution and performing any of the following acts when acting as other than a prostitute or a patron of a prostitute:
1.         Knowingly granting or permitting the use of the place for the purpose of prostitution.
2.         Granting or permitting the use of the place under circumstances from which the person should reasonably know that the place is used or is to be used for purposes of prostitution.
3.         Permitting the continued use of the place after becoming aware of facts or circumstances from which the person should know that the place is being used for the purpose of prostitution.
(2)        Minor. - Any person who is less than 18 years of age.
(3)        Profit from prostitution. - When acting as other than a prostitute, to receive anything of value for personally rendered prostitution services or to receive anything of value from a prostitute, if the thing received is not for lawful consideration and the person knows it was earned in whole or in part from the practice of prostitution.
(4)        Prostitute. - A person who engages in prostitution.
(5)        Prostitution. - The performance of, offer of, or agreement to perform vaginal intercourse, any sexual act as defined in G.S. 14-27.1, or any sexual contact as defined in G.S. 14-27.1, for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification for any money or other consideration.
"§ 14-204.  Prostitution and various acts abetting p

As usual you speak well and fairly Miss Natasha, now I am a registered Republican voter. But my only beef with Clark's post was the gun law issues. At this point I'm pretty much anti government. I agree with ya on the other things you said, cutting unemployment, voter Id laws and their total screw up as far as our budget is concerned are sore spots with me as well. If ya wann hear me gripe about our dingbat legislators lets talk about the way they have screwed up our education system. I feel bad for our kids, we are not leaving them a very good legacy. The politicians get a raise while I have to fund raise at my daughters school so they can have enough paper for the kids, not good!!! But to be fair I honestly believe what ever party is in power the end result is the same.

and they were NOT male prostitutes.  

Exactly. I'm "spouting off" for making a comment about paying out the ass? Never mind that every other thing out there that is illegal goes up in price.... Pussy must be different because by god they want it to be!

You obviously don't read your own posts, as you went on and on about how by "plain logic" why would Johnny pay more when his risk increases as well? Well buddy, cause that's not how it works.  

WHAAAAT!?!?

I was wrong to have brought up such a silly observation.  But just for shits and grins, try looking up the word "hypothetical" sometime  "Plain logic" was a term first used by the OP.  I did use it, but referenced the OP, only to suppose a different scenario, using the same logic as them, just in fun because the topic was getting so serious.  It was NOT my logic!!  NEVER said "real world"!!  I NEVER said prices SHOULD drop!!  WTF are you going on about??  I was poking fun at the OP's simplistic statement - THAT IS ALL!!  For the last time... I was not being serious about rates dropping.  I could really care less about that.  So, take a pill!  

Simplicity is the none debatable way to say something is going to happen. Complicating something opens the doors for argument (the humans approach). Your approach.  

You obviously don't understand general ideas/truths vs personal opinion.

Your words, darlin anti! This is what you said was "the ugly" in the post we are all replying to.  

Agree!! Got the same info from a lawyer I know as well, I decided to pack up in mid july and head to Hollywood... weather is great, there is too many damn people though!

Damn right. Same goes for me lmao.

You have the wittiest posts lol. That was pretty funny...

You are so refreshing !  An intelligent, well researched and considered posting.  

Since this is the longest thread ever in the history of carolina forums, i wanted to be part of it.  Just saying

and believed in 'freedom'.

When did that happen?

smoke signals, one per $100 followed by one for date and time- will be tricky