Lina speaks sense: Different girls may prefer different lengths of appointments. If I had the $800 and the time for a 3-hour appointment, I'm sure those would be very enjoyable (with the right lady). Since I don't have that kind of free time during the workday, I'm glad there are agencies and ladies that offer half-hour appointments as an option. I would also guess that there are some ladies who may prefer the shorter appointments; I've met a few ladies myself who weren't very good or comfortable at small talk during an hour appointment, and when I've repeated with those ladies, a half-hour appointment is just the right length. (Considering that the average sexual episode between a married couple is 1q7 minutes, a 30 minute appointment is downright leisurely.) To each his or her own . . .
So in the last couple of years, when a fella might expect more ladies to offer 1/2 hour appointments at reasonable rates, just the opposite seems to be happening. Try to find even a sensual massage gal offering a half-hour for less than a buck and a half and other than a few AMP's, no luck. One mature lady was asking almost two Bens for a half-hour . . . Remembering when an RSG 1/2 hour session was 125, I wish I'd taken more opportunities back then! Isn't anyone still offering a no upsell 30 minute appt. for less than 150? It's a recession - how many guys can still wrangle 190 (a recent donation I was quoted) for a half-hour?! It's like those cereal boxes shrinking in size but growing in cost! Or am I missing some UTR lady whose suggested donation is still reasonable for the ordinary guy?
We're only doing outcalls primarily right now. But I am actively seeking new girls who will be able to offer incalls. I think you'll find our incall rates to be very reasonable. Currently the only girl I have offering incalls is Freya. She's usually only available one day a week for incalls though.
Why would you assume that a 30 minute appointment would remain static? Hobbying is a luxury, not a right or a necessity. Whining about the price a provider chooses to place on her body and her services is a bit pathetic.
I'm sure there are plenty of cheap dates waiting for you on Back Page...
Dude why is it whiny or pathetic to point out that some ladies (not all) may be losing the chance to build up a bigger client base by asking too much for a half-hour appointment. You're right, it's a luxury and a lady can charge whatever she wants to. That's her right, of course. And she should see exactly as many clients each day as she cares to, so if she thinks a half-hour of her company is worth $300 (as a very few ladies seem to think) and she can drum up a client to pay that every day, well, good for her. But for most of us non-rich folks, $100 a half-hour isn't bubblegum money, and if my regular provider hikes her rate from $125 to $175, she may find new clients willing and able to afford that, but if I do continue seeing that lady it's going to be a lot less. And frankly I'll also be TOFTT'ing with other ladies whose rates are more in my ballpark. Is it some badge of pride to swallow a 40% rate increase in the midst of a recession? If so, okay, then my comments were whiny and pathetic. But I think no one benefits, not the provider providing the luxury or the client paying for it, if the half hourly or hourly rate results in some nice ladies pricing themselves out of the market.
You want the luxury option of a half hour appointment because it works for you right? You figure hey, it should work for her look at all the clients she can get? Maybe she doesn't want to fuck and suck all day? Maybe it's really not very discreet for client number 6 that day? You've seen the news lately right? Which we know these efforts are going to continue. Because there is bound to be some foot traffic from these gals who you are advising here that will be swimming in the cash from these multiple 30 minute appointments.
I'm of the opinion it attracts problems, and I say this entirely without prejudice. It is based solely on safety ideas and my own thoughts regarding the hobby.
Different strokes for different folks. This doesn't exactly lead up to a great model for discretion or covering your ass first and if I want to be discreet and cover my ass I want less foot traffic right? I know that these hotels are looking and keeping an eye out as is uncle Leo. Neighbors always notice that lady with one too many guy friends. They notice lots of vehicles, strange people that don't live in the neighborhood. Hotels are very hot and the gals have to be careful. Things are being more scrutinized. They especially notice lots of foot traffic with quick, short, visits. Leads to questions and big problems.
If you search there are still some gals out there offering what you seek.
Agent Gibbs, you're absolutely right. My comments, observations, and suggestions were not meant in a pedantic sense, however; and I wasn't implying (or didn't mean to imply) that any of these fair ladies should offer half-hour appointments. My guess is that even at $125 a half-hour, which is low, most ladies would have much downtime anyway, especially in a recession. But maybe I'm wrong and at $125 an hour the typical provider would draw one client every hour. Over an 8 hour day, that busy provider would have revenue of only $1,000 (and hotels, travel, lube, etc. has to come out of that, too). It's not an easy profession - I mean that seriously. Far be it from me to tell any lady how much she should charge and how many strange popsicles she should become friendly with day after day, month after month. Heck, if it were me, I'd limit my own lazy self to 3 hourlong appointments a day, at $300 an hour, and figure out how to make that money last me a year (setting aside some for the day I was too mature to continue in the business).
My only point was, if a lady herself chooses to offer 1/2 hour appointments in a down economy like this one, she might want to consider that her likely clientele will consist of average schmoes like me and not rich tycoons like so many of the posters. Some of us get horny more than once a month, and as long as the going rate isn't too outrageous, we represent a market. (Providers who have serviced men who pay for an hour and then leave after the first pop surely understand this.) But if a lady wants to refrain from 1/2 hour appointments altogether or charge $6 a minute with a 20 minute minimum, morepower to her. Sheesh, can't a guy voice a little wishfulness on these board without so many (not all) of the men and women here taking offense?! There actually are plenty of providers offering 1/2 hours at a more modest rate, and my original post was simply meant to point out that for whatever reason, many of those providers have hiked their rates, in my opinion, to a level more that the average Joe can afford except on a very occasional basis. Sorry if that personal observation rains on the parade of all you wealthy guys who are able to drop $400 each week on hourlong appointments. . .
Wow bb, you really struck a nerve with this topic! I think it's great to put it out there though. I'm sorely going to miss the 30 minute RSG option, it's a great way to see if you gel with someone before doling out a lot more and not having such a great time. To me and this is just me but a $300/hr rate is a bit high for me and will limit my encounters quite a bit, but say $150 every couple weeks isn't such a hard hit.
Luckily for me I've cultivated a few great connections with gals that do offer a lower rate. It's a win win all around, she sees a gentleman that treats her with respect, someone she knows she can trust and who will see her on a regular basis.
Anyway, thanks for opening up this can of worms. Lol. Oh and kindly no inquiries on my connections.
SK
Thanks, Special K, for being one of the many who understood where I am coming from. Thanks to all the PM's in support - evidently I'm far from the only guy who isn't rich enough to drop $250 all the time on an hourlong encounter. There is clearly a market out there for ladies willing to offer 1/2-hour appointments at reasonable rates. Commonsense suggests that at rates that are not reasonable, there will be fewer "takers" . . . fewer guys able and also willing to drop too much dinero on an admittedly somewhat rushed session. If possible, who wouldn't prefer to pony up $20,000 for a night with Angelina Jolie (or whoever your type is)? And what provider wouldn't prefer to be handed $5,000 to spend five hours with a single client, someone like One-Shot Otto? That's the only reason I mused aloud on this Board whether it might not be mutually beneficial for some of this area's fine ladies to consider tempering their price increases in the interest of ginning up some more clients. Again, to anyone who takes offense at such harmless brainstorming, I apologize but you should consider taking a chill pill instead of getting so irritated that anyone would dare to suggest that charging $190 for a half-hour of a person's company is somehow an insult to providers everywhere. Fact is, you can walk into most any New England AMP and walk out massaged and fairly satisfied and fully stress-"relieved" for a single Benjamin. Now, there are many ladies I'd prefer to see for a fuller service even at a much higher rate, but for me personally, when RSG upped the 1/2-hour rate from 125 to 150, I started asking myself whether, even for their hotter, more reliable ladies, it was worth the money, travel time (often longer than the appointment itself), and hassle just to get my rocks off. But as I said before, for any lady or fella who is offended by a bit of online musing, I'm not telling anyone what to do or what they should do, so go right ahead and charge $200 for a half-hour and for you guys who can obviously afford it, go right ahead and pay it. I'm sure you'll both get your monies worth. Sheesh!
I personally price my appointments in way to encourage longer appointments.
2- 3 gentlemen callers seeing me in upscale hotel for multihour engagements does not raise eye brows as much as parade of men coming and going for shorter dates.
Additional consideration is emotional investment in appointment.
A lot of people assume that most taxing part of working as a companion is physical part. For some it may be. Girls who turn 10 appointments a day on "did u cum yet?" basis sure get a lot of physical mileage.
Then you have more upscale ladies who specialize in EXPERIENCE vs pops. To me it means that within 30 seconds of my date walking through the door I have to be his ideal woman for whatever amount of time he has booked. I have to get on same mental and emotional level as someone I am meeting for the first time and maintain the fantasy and rapport in addition to the bedroom acrobatics. Often times I have to KNOW what my date wants even before he can verbalize it to himself.
This means I need time to recharge and rest both physically AND emotionally between appointments.
Lina
Sadly traffic is a huge consideration for a provider and too much is just a dangerous proposition in this hostile environment. I always enjoyed the 30 minute quickie lunch break rsg typically provided and when I had more time and money I would see a provider for longer typically more pre planned date as the 1/2 hours were usually spur of the moment. Time rethink how you play the game as/half hours are just too risky in a public place. Hosting from a house/condo etc. Is a different story.
I also have thought that most providers would rather book longer 2 - 3 hour appointments, and provide price incentives to encourage that. I haven't been able to figure out why many, if not most providers simply double their hourly rate for a 2 - hour booking????? I've wanted to ask that for a long time, but don't want to be pegged as a whiner, moaner, pissant looking for a discount. Most every pricing scheme of any retail business is set that way....buy more and you get a quantity discount. The "cost of goods sold" is significantly less, particularly if it encourages repeat business. I have to imagine how worn out (used) a provider will get if she is servicing an endless stream of back-to-back-to-back one-hour appointments. That has got to be excruciating for her!!!! I also agree with those who have commented on the perception of woman with an endless stream of short-visit male friends in a hotel. BAD, BAD, BAD in this environment.....even if in a personal incall. Just not a wise thing with all the LE activity going on. To think the LE is just focused on low-end street-walking activity would be naive. They're just watching and waiting and would love nothing more than to catch and make public examples of some high-end busts with brand name hobbyists! Play safe boys and girls! Just my two cents....hopefully practical and down to earth! 
Does not mean one is better than the other. We just have different preference and skill.
I personally would rather do one 12 hour engagement than 5 one hour ones and my pricing reflects my preference. Another lady could be exact opposite.
Beauty of this lifestyle is that there is someone out there who provides exactly what it is you are looking for.
15 minutes quickie? There are ladies who offer it.
week long engagement? Once again, there are ladies who excel at those. Key is to matching YOUR needs with the right girl.
LIna
Lina speaks sense: Different girls may prefer different lengths of appointments. If I had the $800 and the time for a 3-hour appointment, I'm sure those would be very enjoyable (with the right lady). Since I don't have that kind of free time during the workday, I'm glad there are agencies and ladies that offer half-hour appointments as an option. I would also guess that there are some ladies who may prefer the shorter appointments; I've met a few ladies myself who weren't very good or comfortable at small talk during an hour appointment, and when I've repeated with those ladies, a half-hour appointment is just the right length. (Considering that the average sexual episode between a married couple is 1q7 minutes, a 30 minute appointment is downright leisurely.) To each his or her own . . .
Carnal - Especially for us hobbyists, that's not always true. If you check just a few of the posts, you find a fair amount of providers who charge 300 or more who wind up with awful reviews. Some of these ladies then go on to switch names, phones, and (phony) pictures.
So although your reputation may be stellar, I might find an unreviewed lady on a pay-for-it website and, based on her picture and based on her apparent friendliness on the phone, I go and visit her.
Once the dough-nation has been exchanged, or once the provider has begun providing her services, I may (and have) find out that it's the worst 300 I've ever spent. It's not like I can get a money-back guarantee, and it's not like all providers are always enthusiastic and fair-dealing. I and every other guy on TER could ONLY visit reviewed providers, but then no new providers would ever get reviewed, right?
If what you're saying is, ladies who are charging a pittance, well there's a reason for that -- you get what you pay for; if it's too good to be true it probably isn't -- then I agree. I wouldn't call a provider who was asking 60 for a half-hour of her time, because I understand it wouldn't be worth it: either the provider would be utterly unlike her picture, or she'd try to rush me out in 5 minutes, or she would upsell bigtime ("you want topless? that's another $60"; "you want to touch me? another $60").
So while it's true there's a reason that some ladies ask too little, it's not true that a lady who asks for 200 for a half-hour is going to provide good or excellent services. (Ladies from agencies like RSG tend to be more reliable, but not inevitably so.) As a well-reviewed provider with a solid reputation, you can ask -- and deserve -- a higher fee.
But assuming that a lady wants to "mix up" her appointments with a few half-hour sessions (as many, many ladies do), I have to say that by definition a half-hour appointment doesn't leave a provider much time to show off her skills in the first place, so assuming that (and it's an assumption, not me trying to tell anyone what to do) a lady is offering half-hour sessions to begin with, I was just proposing that a couple of such appointments at 125 or 140 each day is nothing to sneeze at, and I was just wondering -- not trying to tell anyone what to do -- whether charging the extra 25 per half-hour was worth it if it might ultimately dissuade a client or two each day.
Kate, I truly wish we all got what we paid for in this hobby, or that, as a hobbyist, I could get my money back if the provider turned out to be drugged out or indifferent. That happened once, with a well-known local agency that knew about the problems with their employee and apologized after the appointment and even comped me a freebie. But it happened only once.
Providers want money... that is why they are here, to work (good for them thank god they do this) shills want to suck up thats why they quickly agree that raising ones rate is a good thing and offering longer appointments is so smart. Regular hobbiest that review usually see a lady for 1 hour (richer ones for more time). RSG was an exception and as the economy slowed some $300 indy's went there to work. and yes Ally is right they definitely worked harder for the same or lower rate then before but probably made up for it with volume. i.e. like most self employed responsible people the did what they had to do. You wont convince this audience of the merits of a 1/2 hour appointment but your not totally wrong in asking. Perhaps using the private mail to someone on your radar would be a better way than getting into a debate with providers and their shills as to why the 1/2 hour is disappearing. I am sure some industrious Gent or lady will fill the void eventually but in this election year with this vague trafficking law the 1/2 hour at a hotel is probably reckless behavior. Or on the hand maybe my opinion is wrong and I should go F&*k myself!