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Zenithseeker 1259 reads
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Guys, I haven't tried to write a review for 8+ years because I think many of them are fantasy and YMMV, and also because TER kept rejecting the ones I did because they weren't explicit enough. But this type of thing is a really good justification for writing a review. One time, and against my better judgment, I took the plunge with a high end ($$$$$) visiting provider who after 25 minutes was showing me the door. While not a true rip-off, it is a bad experience.

So an hour appointment with a new visiting provider and she looked so hot in the pics that I decided to splurge and go for a full hour.  I made it a point to ask when I called whether a full hour included a full sixty minutes of company or whether it was just "up to" an hour. Since there was a $ignificant difference in fee between a half-hour a full hour, I wanted to be sure up front. She reassured me over the phone, and also when I showed up, when I told her I'd be glad to take the shorter session if I wasn't going to get a full hour of her enthusiasm and attention.  (We both knew what I was talking about by that point, and without going into details, I did get into more explicit details with the lady before handing over the donation.) She never rushed me or got impatient, but twenty minutes later, after the first cup of coffee was served, she basically jumped off the bed and started to get dressed. When I reminded her that my donation was for a full 60 minutes, she said something like, "Look, honey, if you wanted an hour you should have slowed down and let things last longer." She and I both knew she had just taken me for a full-hour fare for a "one-and-done," and it was no use arguing. But I won't see her again, if and when she ever visits this area again.
Other than to squeeze every centavo out of the suckers (the suckees?), do any other providers understand why some gals just flat-out lie about the numbers of pops a donation gets?

1/20/131376 reads

You should have demanded that she refund the difference between the 30 min appt and 60 min appt. Most of these girls figure that the client is too afraid to make a scene, which it sounds like you were.She has alot more to lose if you make a scene at the incall location than you do.
She flat out robbed you like a Common Thief, and you allowed it to happen.
The least you should do is call her out in this forum, so that others will stay away.
Let it be known to this Thief that she is not welcome in this town, and her actions will not be tolerated.
Just my two cents.

Isn't this the purpose of this site. A place for us guys to try and protect ourselves from rip offs by posting about it so other proceed with caution.

Posted By: 1/20/13
You should have demanded that she refund the difference between the 30 min appt and 60 min appt. Most of these girls figure that the client is too afraid to make a scene, which it sounds like you were.She has alot more to lose if you make a scene at the incall location than you do.
She flat out robbed you like a Common Thief, and you allowed it to happen.
The least you should do is call her out in this forum, so that others will stay away.
Let it be known to this Thief that she is not welcome in this town, and her actions will not be tolerated.
Just my two cents.

Some girls just flat out lie about these things and some don't.  What is important here is (A) Did she have TER reviews and (B) Are you going to write one highlighting this particular issue?

Zenithseeker1260 reads


Guys, I haven't tried to write a review for 8+ years because I think many of them are fantasy and YMMV, and also because TER kept rejecting the ones I did because they weren't explicit enough. But this type of thing is a really good justification for writing a review. One time, and against my better judgment, I took the plunge with a high end ($$$$$) visiting provider who after 25 minutes was showing me the door. While not a true rip-off, it is a bad experience.

Again, Review her and tell all the details to avoid such a thing.  Then call her out here.  I have been doing this now for almost 15 years and I have yet to run into this problem.  I've been a TER member for four years and found that to be a valuable resource for such things...  hope it never happens again.

I would not call her a thief unless she stole from your pockets while you were in the shower...kind of thing.

Be objective in your review, giving credit for what was done in the first 30 min.

I notice from your previous reviews that you have had your share of ups and downs in the past.

Best of luck with this.  Does the girl have any other reviews?  PM me if you wish.

DT (and everone else)  - Good points, all. I can't review her on TER because her ad, posted online, expired a couple of days after the appt., while I was still shaking my head over her outright deceit. (I looked for it and it wasn't there.)  Her name's Kyra (or Kira), she had a southern accent and she said she was from Baltimore (if she wasn't lying about that too). Blonde, cute, slender, 20s, friendly to start but she turned ice-cold as soon as I challenged her about the full hour she'd promised.
I didn't think to put up a review right away for a few reasons: one because she didn't use her name in the actual ad, and if the provider's name isn't mentioned in the ad a review won't get approved.  Two, because as we know, when certain visiting girls return -- I mean the scammers, time-cheats, and upsellers, that is -- they often use a different name. Why would a RO artist keep using the same name that she cheated people with (although she may not think of it that way, true.)  Yeah, on more than one occasion I've knocked on a hotel door and when it swung open I recognzie the girl from a lousy past encounter and I just say to her, "You ripped me off last time, but this time I'm out of here." So basically I don't think it would make a difference because of the name changes. Three, sometimes it just takes a couple of days to get a review up, but if I do see what looks like another ad from her again, I'll PM you guys who asked it to let you know to avoid her.
And someone suggested I should post about the good parts of the session, but no offense but from my point of view if she provided pretty good nookie but then ruined any good feelings by shortchanging me on time, basically charging me double what I expected, not to mention that maybe I had to move my schedule around to leave a couple of hours for travel and play, but then for all my rearranging my schedule I was in and out before I knew it -- well, don't mind me but I'm not inclined to do her advertising for her by posting a review.  Besides, I woudl imagine that if you showed up for a half-hour appt. she'd try to get you in and out of the room in 15 minutes tops.

This girl does not have her own webpage?  Probably no other reviews for the same reason.  Advertised on Backpage or Craigslist?

Don't know why guys take the risk.  Your little head must have really liked her pictures.

I guess my first question would if she has any reviews - did you read them? Under the category of "multiple pops" was there an positive or negative response? If there was a "don't know" answer I would have researched a little further and perhaps even PM'd a couple of the reviewers and asked them about their experience with the lady.
Even if she was a "one and done" she still owed you the entire hour even if all you did was chit chat. You apparently made it clear that you were booking an ENTIRE hour and she understood that you were as well.
I don't feel you would have been out-of-line asking her if she was serving more than one cup of coffee and if you got an ambiguous answer or a "I don't discuss those things" type of reply I would been seriously re-thinking where I wanted to spend my money.
Yes, a review certainly would be appropriate and if, for whatever the reason, it is rejected and you can't correct it to get it accepted then a post indicating who it is certainly would be appreciated by all.

Mary Magdalene1255 reads

The ladies should be able to review guys who are serious campers.

She ripped you off and will not stay in business or keep up her reputation pulling that crap.  Her behavior ruins it for all involved in the hobby so do tell.

She can stay in business for as long as she wants. Escort review site hobbyists are a small group compared to hobbyists who have not heard of escort review sites. With the woman's apparent good looks, she can run her scam for 12 hours a day for weeks and not have to worry. Unfortunately for all of us, those types of providers go out of business only after meeting a brutish man who takes offense to their practices and uses violence.

nhted, you're right. I definitely made my expectations clear, this wasn't a situation where she could have misunderstood me, and she had no prior reviews (or if so, they might be under a different name). She didn't say "I don't discuss those things" and she wasn't ambiguous, though, I'm sure about that.  You know, some gals, when you ask them about multiples, they'll be coy and say something like, "I promise you you're not going to leave until you're very happy," or something cute like that.  But when I say to a gal that I'm not interested in an hour appointment with her if it's only "up to an hour," and that if I pay for a full hour there's probably going to be some recovery time around the half-hour mark but that for an hour rate I'm going to want an hour of time together -- well I agree, Ted, that if she's being coy about it I should rethink spending any time with her.  Problem with the ladies who don't care about repeat clients is some of them will say antyhing to get you to come over, and they figure that once you're in the room the little head will take over.  Like when a gal looks nothing at all like her picture, or when you ask her if she's got a sexy outfit to wear and when you show up it suddenly turns out that all she has with her that day is jeans, sneakers, and a sweatshirt.  A little white lie about appearance is no big deal to me, like when a girl sort of resembles the pic in her ad; but trickiing a client into dropping an extra Benjamin for time not enjoyed is (okay, no one disagrees) just plain a rip-off, not to mention a way to guarantee a phone that doesn't ring in the future.
Enough of the griping, though . . . thanks for the chance to vent on this discussion board.

The providers pictures generates an assembly line of men queuing up at her door. Her phone will keep ringing, abeit in another city. Her disposition is cynical. She knows that her female attractions will allow her to have her way. This is why as experienced hobbyists we should support providers and agencies that have track records of producing. When we venture to backpage, eros or cityvibe, we should realize that we are taking big chances.

curtisI1658 reads

and it seems like it's justified, do everyone a big favor and out her here bro.

But with all those shenanigans, just out her man.  Seriously, we'd like to know.

Or at least PM those who are curious.  I know I am.

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